Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[Czech_pivo]

Trudeau holding talks with cabinet, party leaders about whether to step down

Several ministers push for PM to stay on, with insiders offering contrasting views of his position in the aftermath of Freeland’s exit

www.theglobeandmail.com

It’s behind the paywall. Bottom line seems to be that Trudeau doesn’t want to quit but at least for a while this week, initially didn’t see a way to continue. Seems he is reserving his final decision for early new year with several cabinet ministers having intervened to convince him to stay supported by Katie Telford only allowing access to Trudeau for those wanting to convince him to stay on.

There are roughly 150 Lib MP's of which 45-50ish of them are currently in Cabinet or have already been in Cabinet and are not in it for a variety of reasons. For the remaining 2/3's, there would have been a number of reasons why they weren't chosen in the first place to be in Cabinet - incompetent, dumb as a bag of hammers, inability to speak both official languages (or even 1 of them.... effectively), not experienced enough, not 'loyal enough', etc, etc, etc - this is now the pool that Trudeau has decided to go fishing in for his Christmas carp.

These will now be the ones leading Ministries responsible for delivering services/programmes to million of Canadians and ensuring the well-being of this country and its future going forward.

Wo ist Steiner? Wenn Steiner angreift, wird alles gut!

 

[daftandbarmy]

Just in time for Christmas... and a hostile takeover of the LPC

A new book about Chrystia Freeland just came out. Here's what we learned​

A new book about Chrystia Freeland has just come out, after the publishing company sped up its release date by a few months, in light of the bombshell news its main character has made in recent days.

Titled, "Chrystia: From Peace River to Parliament Hill," the unauthorized biography was written by Toronto-based journalist Catherine Tsalikis and published by House of Anansi Press.

The book covers Freeland's childhood as a "Peace River kid," her time at Harvard, her Ukraine connection and two decades as a journalist, as well as her political ascent to two of the top jobs on Parliament Hill.

Based on more than 130 interviews with Freeland's relatives, friends and colleagues between 2021 and 2024, the generously flattering portrayal comes as a growing number of Liberals are looking to her as a potential leadership replacement for Justin Trudeau.

The author says she tried but ultimately did not speak with Freeland for the book, something that worked out fine, she told Chief News Anchor and Senior Editor of CTV National News Omar Sachedina in an interview.

A new book about Chrystia Freeland just came out. Here's what we learned

A new book about Chrystia Freeland has just come out, after the publishing company sped up its release date by a few months. CTV News sifted through the book and pulled out some notable anecdotes, as well as insights about Freeland's relationship with the prime minister.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[ModlrMike]

Kim Campbell 2.0?

 

[Rifleman62]

I believe Mulcair has got this nailed. At the end he speaks about the power of the OMO, and Trudeau's ineptitude with powerful women. That may be the case, but I believe it is more the case of COS Katie Telford can't stand other powerful women and gets rid of them.

"Mark Carney wise to step away from the trainwreck": Tom Mulcair on Liberal Party woes​

 

[dapaterson]

Kim Campbell 2.0?

Too smart to take the reins right now... though if she did, she would out-perform Campbell.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Too smart to take the reins right now... though if she did, she would out-perform Campbell.

Would that be enough to save the furniture for Team Red, barring anything huge between now and any election?

 

[dapaterson]

Would that be enough to save the furniture for Team Red, barring anything huge between now and any election?

I'm only saying N>2

 

[ArmyRick]

Why would that happen? Telford has absolutely nothing without Trudeau in power. She’s inextricably tied to him. He in turn is extremely dependent on her to help him keep a grip on the reins. There’s no advantage to be gained for either of them by fracturing.

Let me paint a scenario. And with Trudeau, anything is possible. Trudeau in a few weeks or a month or two, has another leadership crisis. He has no one else to blame. So he grabs petite Katie Telford by her hair and heaves her under the bus (Trudeau is a gold belted champion at tossing others, especially women under political buses), along the way she grabs hold of him and drags him further down (ohh, I am sure she has a secret or fifty about Trudeau kept well hidden for rainy days).

2 months ago, I never thought Trudeau would kick Freeland to the curb, but he tried and she bit him hard on her way under the bus.

Damn @brihard , you Ottawa cops must be real busy with all the dead bodies being run over by buses.

 

[Good2Golf]

Let me paint a scenario. And with Trudeau, anything is possible. Trudeau in a few weeks or a month or two, has another leadership crisis. He has no one else to blame. So he grabs petite Katie Telford by her hair and heaves her under the bus (Trudeau is a gold belted champion at tossing others, especially women under political buses), along the way she grabs hold of him and drags him further down (ohh, I am sure she has a secret or fifty about Trudeau kept well hidden for rainy days).

Trudeau isn’t authorized to throw Telford under the bus.

 

[Quirky]

Trudeaus time coming to an end

Singh says the NDP 'will vote to bring this government down' in new letter

After months of being non-committal, in a new letter, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his caucus 'will vote to bring this government down, and give Canadians a chance to vote for a government who will work for them.'

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[ArmyRick]

Trudeaus time coming to an end

Singh says the NDP 'will vote to bring this government down' in new letter

After months of being non-committal, in a new letter, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his caucus 'will vote to bring this government down, and give Canadians a chance to vote for a government who will work for them.'

www.ctvnews.ca

Finally. Lets see if it happens. Unless Peter Julian and Charlie Angus have political knives at his back?

 

[DBNSG]

Let me paint a scenario. And with Trudeau, anything is possible. Trudeau in a few weeks or a month or two, has another leadership crisis. He has no one else to blame. So he grabs petite Katie Telford by her hair and heaves her under the bus (Trudeau is a gold belted champion at tossing others, especially women under political buses), along the way she grabs hold of him and drags him further down (ohh, I am sure she has a secret or fifty about Trudeau kept well hidden for rainy days).

2 months ago, I never thought Trudeau would kick Freeland to the curb, but he tried and she bit him hard on her way under the bus.

Damn @brihard , you Ottawa cops must be real busy with all the dead bodies being run over by buses.

They might be running out of Buses.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

Trudeaus time coming to an end

Singh says the NDP 'will vote to bring this government down' in new letter

After months of being non-committal, in a new letter, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his caucus 'will vote to bring this government down, and give Canadians a chance to vote for a government who will work for them.'

www.ctvnews.ca

Typical Jagmeet Singh: sys he's finally going to do the right thing, when all other avenues have been exhausted.

Let's see what happens in 2025 then...

 

[ArmyRick]

They might be running out of Buses.

Can't use "green" electrical buses. Or do they work sometimes?

 

[ArmyRick]

Typical Jagmeet Singh: sys he's finally going to do the right thing, when all other avenues have been exhausted.

Let's see what happens in 2025 then...

Parliament sits January 27 or so. Even if an election is called that day, it would be at least 30 days or so? And then his pension is earned. I believe sitting MPs are still paid while campaigning?

 

[Maxman1]

Parliament sits January 27 or so. Even if an election is called that day, it would be at least 30 days or so? And then his pension is earned. I believe sitting MPs are still paid while campaigning?

Election campaigns are a minimum of 36 days.

How convenient for him that when Parliament resumes, an election would be just long enough to qualify for his pension.

 

[brihard]

Let me paint a scenario. And with Trudeau, anything is possible. Trudeau in a few weeks or a month or two, has another leadership crisis. He has no one else to blame. So he grabs petite Katie Telford by her hair and heaves her under the bus (Trudeau is a gold belted champion at tossing others, especially women under political buses), along the way she grabs hold of him and drags him further down (ohh, I am sure she has a secret or fifty about Trudeau kept well hidden for rainy days).

2 months ago, I never thought Trudeau would kick Freeland to the curb, but he tried and she bit him hard on her way under the bus.

It’s fine to ‘paint a scenario’, but it doesn’t have an air of reality about it. Telford is a functionary and enabler; she‘s neither competition nor an obstacle to him. I just don’t see this happening.

Damn @brihard , you Ottawa cops must be real busy with all the dead bodies being run over by buses.

You would think, but the transit service sucks so much they end up just lying in the street for a while and the bus doesn’t actually show up, so they get up and go back to caucus.

Finally. Lets see if it happens. Unless Peter Julian and Charlie Angus have political knives at his back?

Hopefully he actually does, but I’ll believe it when I see it. This may be his last effort to force Trudeau to step down and hand off. It still remains in the NDP’s interest to prop the government up while they have the leverage, but to me this signals “we cannot and will not work with Trudeau anymore”.

If Trudeau were to announce that he’s stepping down as leader, I wouldn’t bet against NDP working with a successor until October. But we’ll see.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Trudeaus time coming to an end

Singh says the NDP 'will vote to bring this government down' in new letter

After months of being non-committal, in a new letter, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his caucus 'will vote to bring this government down, and give Canadians a chance to vote for a government who will work for them.'

www.ctvnews.ca

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his caucus "will vote to bring this government down," sometime in 2025.

Like, October 2025 perhaps?

 

[The Bread Guy]

Trudeaus time coming to an end

Singh says the NDP 'will vote to bring this government down' in new letter

After months of being non-committal, in a new letter, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his caucus 'will vote to bring this government down, and give Canadians a chance to vote for a government who will work for them.'

www.ctvnews.ca

I don't know if I'd be as optimistic as your opening line, in the short term anyway, but good catch.

This from the Team Orange Coach/Horse's Mouth (or pen), via x.com ...

We'll see ....

 

[Jarnhamar]

If Trudeau were to announce that he’s stepping down as leader, I wouldn’t bet against NDP working with a successor until October. But we’ll see.

I would love to see Poilievre take a collaborative approach by examining and trying to implement the most helpful platforms from the Liberals and NDP.

Singh is a huge opportunist. He could work with the CPC TODAY to tackle some of his parties biggest asks instead of virtue signaling it a few weeks or months away from a fall election.