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Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

OldSolduer said:
Has anyone seen our PM lately?
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This guy's been awfully quiet, too ....
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Also, haven't listened to it yet (will over supper), but looks like the new FinMin's talking on a podcast ....
Caveat: host's a Team Red guy (former advisor to Martin, federal campaign co-chair for 2004 and 2006), but for the past several months, he's been quite pissed off at the current Team Red folks - coach included - for how they're handling things and running the party's legacy into the ground.
 
The Bread Guy said:
This guy's been awfully quiet, too ....
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Good2Golf said:
Ah, so a liberal Blue Guy… 😉

I would have nary a moment’s pause before voting for a Martin type…a fiscally-responsible federal socialist.
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Never thought of it that way, but could be - he was a backer of John Turner for the leadership in the day as well. He IS "True Red", but him and the other Team Red guy on their weekly 4-seat podcast (other two being clearly Team Orange and Team Blue folks, fiercely defending their hills) are BOTH bigly pissed/saddened/flummoxed over water filling the Good Ship Liberal.
 
Good2Golf said:
It absolutely will. PMO is the PM’s personal construct. PMO is as powerful or as advisorial as the PM directs the Clerk of the Privy Council to adhere to PMO (and let’s be clear, the Chief of Staff of PMO, currently Katie Telford) direction.

PCO, with the Clerk as ‘DM GoC’, is the superior administrative element of Government, and SHOULD BE the official construct through which Government policy and implementation is controlled and affected…not subservient to the PMO.
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Coyne’s point is that all PMs since PET, red and blue, have taken more power from cabinet and placed it in the PMO. Doesn’t matter on the party or how ethical the PM was.

Our system is broken and is exacerbated when we have people like Trudeau in power. The PMO keeps growing and ministerial responsibility dwindles.
 
Good2Golf said:
It absolutely will. PMO is the PM’s personal construct. PMO is as powerful or as advisorial as the PM directs the Clerk of the Privy Council to adhere to PMO (and let’s be clear, the Chief of Staff of PMO, currently Katie Telford) direction.

PCO, with the Clerk as ‘DM GoC’, is the superior administrative element of Government, and SHOULD BE the official construct through which Government policy and implementation is controlled and affected…not subservient to the PMO.
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The fuzzy buzzwords I vaguely remember from various (ironically named) "How Ottawa Works" courses were that the PMO is supposed to be "politically oriented, but process aware", while PCO is supposed to be "process oriented, but politically aware." In a perfect world, of course, and also dependent, as you mentioned, on the captain of the day in the political wheelhouse.
 
Czech_pivo said:
We have sunk to Italian-style government
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The only thing we are missing (so far) is the outright brawls we see on the news from some of those countries.

Jarnhamar said:
That interview is hilarious. She really holds his feet to the fire. Totally not buying his bullshit "everything is on the table" responses.
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The link wouldn't work for me but if that was the CTV interview, yes, it was hilarious. It's actually quite an art (or a pathology); I'm not sure I could keep it up with a straight face.
 
A thinly detailed version of the PM’s itinerary is posted each day. Apparently today he was in the NCR and had a discussion with the PM of Israel. Presumably tomorrow he’ll be in town involved in the cabinet shuffle.

www.pm.gc.ca

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Right Honourable Justin Trudeau - Le très honorable Justin Trudeau
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QV said:
Word from the new Finance Minister is Carney is out.
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Just spotted this (Globe & Mail screen grab of article)- thanks!
The Bread Guy said:
Also, haven't listened to it yet (will over supper), but looks like the new FinMin's talking on a podcast ....
Caveat: host's a Team Red guy (former advisor to Martin, federal campaign co-chair for 2004 and 2006), but for the past several months, he's been quite pissed off at the current Team Red folks - coach included - for how they're handling things and running the party's legacy into the ground.
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Just listened to the podcast. Quick & dirty:
  • Host didn't ask about Trudeau specifically (sounds like he & Leblanc have been friends for some time), but Leblanc said over an election campaign period, people may start questioning whether PP has the kind of approach they want in gov't - claimed most people decide during campaigns
  • Leblanc actually sounds like he's getting it (good messaging about no matter what the big numbers say, 2/3 of Canadians are doing worse than before)
  • Said there's room in the coffers to deal with any tariffs (didn't give amounts, but suggested there's room to help Canadians and businesses affected, pointing to COVID supports as "not unlike")
  • Attributes the ballooning deficit numbers to accounting that takes into account what departments are saying should be kept in one's back pocket for potential Indigenous litigation*
  • Sounds like his conversations with Trump officials at "the dinner" indicate they want to work together on protecting the joint border
Overall, my personal impression is "we'll see" re: the claims about $ being available if needed, and the weight of litigation potential payouts weighing heavily on the numbers, but the guy did come across as "getting it." Team Red should have had this guy speaking out loud more often about government policy (such as it is) than some of those who did. Your political mileage may vary, but worth the 47 minute listen.

* - Off the top of my head, I know of Indigenous groups suing over policing funding in Ontario, still-outstanding water advisory class action settlements, child welfare - and I've been out of the biz for approaching 2 years.
 
dapaterson said:
CBC reporting that David McGuinty, Chair of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians will replace Dominic Leblanc as minister of Public Safety.

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Ok, not a terrible move. By virtue of NSICOP he’ll be coming into the portfolio with a significantly better grasp of current national security and public safety threats than most. He’s also been around the block more than a few times.

QV said:
Word from the new Finance Minister is Carney is out.
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Not surprising. Carney’s experienced and savvy. He’d be a fool to step in now with the change in circumstances.
 
brihard said:
Ok, not a terrible move. By virtue of NSICOP he’ll be coming into the portfolio with a significantly better grasp of current national security and public safety threats than most. He’s also been around the block more than a few times.



Not surprising. Carney’s experienced and savvy. He’d be a fool to step in now with the change in circumstances.
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And part of the Laurentien Elite. It now makes me wonder if they are stepping in to stop the bleeding.
 
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