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Shame all sides these days say it's the other side's fault that things are so divisive, and no side'll be the first to budge on truly working together.
U.S. Annexing Canada (split fm Liberal Minority thread)
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ArmyRick
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Dead wrong. We need to kick out the self destructive LPC and the NDP that aided them for the last 9 years and get on with a CPC government.
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That is not a fair comparison. Canada took a hard lurch left under Trudeau... and it's going to get pulled back somewhat closer to centre with the next election.
Not happening until it happens. Until then a united front still needs to be done to face our adversaries to the south.
I expect a future opposition to also be on that same page.
They can nip at each other on whatever but the US approach needs to be on the same page.
So no. Not dead wrong.
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So am I. We can sit down when the majority of Canadians move to the center, have a Creemore beer together and you can tell me what an asshole I was/am.
Seriously, on this we agree.
The best possible option I see is PP. Budgets must be balanced, immigration policy must be manageable, crime must be dealt with and economy must be enabled to function. All those things will make Canadians lean into the center again.
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youre not going to balance any budgets while undergoing 25% tariffs entering a recession and facing calls to double our defence expenditures
ArmyRick
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Who best to lead us against Donald Trump? Do tell us.
I'll put money on Pierre Poilievre anyday. Its not gonna be pretty, no matter how you slice it. But having Pierre in is gonna get us through the best shape possible.
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The issue is what is the center.
Many people don't want to admit where it is...
The other issue is that there are not simply two poles, and there are multifaceted issues that mean that the you need about 500 Venn diagrams to find all the various intersection points.
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is that the question?
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that and that the centre is anything but the centre. Its not magical otherwise we would just cut every baby in half
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I think you are better off with PP, as deep down I dont think Trump wants tariffs, he just wants Canada to course correct.
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Thank you sir. I welcome that correction
OldSolduer
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Those that want peace, order and good government. With minimal interference from "special interest groups".
Justin definitely divided the country more than ever. He helped wipe out our core identity…something he even bragged about to the New York Times. And having no core identity made it a helluva lot easier for the ChiComs to interfere in our elections. I’ll never forgive nor forget what he did. Mind you, we’ve been building up to that scenario for decades and various others (from all parties) played a role in it, but Justin seemed to take special pride in what he did. So…Justin, you own it.
He’s still correct that all parties need to pull together on this one.
Trump takes power in a week. There’s no reason to expect a new government elected before late April at the earliest. The current executive has three full months in which they need to bash on with the day to day grind of government, and enact policy for a right-now problem.
Canada will be best served if the outgoing and likely incoming governing parties are synchronized in enough of these efforts that there’s both continuity, and externally visible solidarity in place. Whatever the Liberals start, likely the CPC will ill inherit some months down the road. Similarly, whatever the Liberals hope to see happen, for it to be realized they need some buy in from CPC to keep the ball rolling. This is a time for calm and sober collaboration at the big kids’ table, in the larger interests of Canada.
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That being your definition, but I would guess that others would not agree.
OldSolduer
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Of course not - some think the centre is too far right. Others think its too far left.
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That may be a big part of the cause, but do you see either side saying, "hey, maybe we should put politics aside and see what we can do to work together for the country"?
What we need is more of this ....
... and without thinking someone disagreeing being thought of as a communist, libtard, nazi, snowflake or fascist, combined with a recognition of this ....
Going full extreme example, I'm nowhere near as optimistic as this guy, but can dream, right?
Craig Scott: An (admittedly unlikely) plan to protect Canada in dangerous times
It's time for all parties to come together and form a Canadian unity government.
www.readtheline.ca
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That is one of my major concerns. The incoming administration with a fairly power drunk leader and his collection of whack job associated is kind of a right now kinda problem.
But China and Russia and their assorted minions and hangers on are a long term threat .
We now find ourselves in a very transactional world.
And I'm not sure a lot of Canadians understand that.
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