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U.S. Annexing Canada (split fm Liberal Minority thread)

Just going to throw this out there as a hypothetical for the sake of discussion.

Trump has two main issues with Canada which lead to his "suggestion" that Canada become the 51st State...trade deficits and security issues.

What if we upped the ante and proposed a Customs Union with the United States combined with a joint external border policy...basically free flow of goods between Canada and the US with a common security perimeter around the two countries. Border resources could be re-deployed to focus on overseas points of entry to prevent illegal goods/bad actors from getting into Canada/US in the first place.




We wouldn't have to go as far as the EU in integration and a common currency, but there would be definite economic benefits to harmonization of product standards, etc. As a common North American market we'd have the weight of the US economy behind us in trade negotiations with other countries.

On the military side we could deepen security cooperation by transitioning NORAD from the "North American Aerospace Defence Command" to a more comprehensive "North American Defence Command" with expanded RCN and CA coordination with the USN and US Army as well as active participation in Ballistic Missile Defence.

These two actions would resolve the concerns raised by PE Trump regarding security as well as cement our trade relations with the US without the need to become the 51st State.

As an additional twist, from what I've read Greenland is interested in voting for sovereignty from Denmark but the main sticking point is they can't afford economically to give up the subsidies from the Danish Government. What if instead of being purchased by the US, Greenland instead became the 4th Canadian territory? They are much closer geographically to Canada than Denmark and the population is almost 90% mixed Inuit ethnically so they likely have much more in common culturally with Canadian Arctic communities than with the typical Dane.

As a Canadian Territory Greenland would be part of the Canada/US Customs Union so would have barrier free trade with both countries which would likely lead to economic investment in their natural resource industries. PE Trump could see this as a win since he (the US) would reap the benefits of economic access to Greenland's resources at the same time as not having to administer the territory.
 
Just going to throw this out there as a hypothetical for the sake of discussion.

Trump has two main issues with Canada which lead to his "suggestion" that Canada become the 51st State...trade deficits and security issues.

What if we upped the ante and proposed a Customs Union with the United States combined with a joint external border policy...basically free flow of goods between Canada and the US with a common security perimeter around the two countries. Border resources could be re-deployed to focus on overseas points of entry to prevent illegal goods/bad actors from getting into Canada/US in the first place.




We wouldn't have to go as far as the EU in integration and a common currency, but there would be definite economic benefits to harmonization of product standards, etc. As a common North American market we'd have the weight of the US economy behind us in trade negotiations with other countries.

On the military side we could deepen security cooperation by transitioning NORAD from the "North American Aerospace Defence Command" to a more comprehensive "North American Defence Command" with expanded RCN and CA coordination with the USN and US Army as well as active participation in Ballistic Missile Defence.

These two actions would resolve the concerns raised by PE Trump regarding security as well as cement our trade relations with the US without the need to become the 51st State.

As an additional twist, from what I've read Greenland is interested in voting for sovereignty from Denmark but the main sticking point is they can't afford economically to give up the subsidies from the Danish Government. What if instead of being purchased by the US, Greenland instead became the 4th Canadian territory? They are much closer geographically to Canada than Denmark and the population is almost 90% mixed Inuit ethnically so they likely have much more in common culturally with Canadian Arctic communities than with the typical Dane.

As a Canadian Territory Greenland would be part of the Canada/US Customs Union so would have barrier free trade with both countries which would likely lead to economic investment in their natural resource industries. PE Trump could see this as a win since he (the US) would reap the benefits of economic access to Greenland's resources at the same time as not having to administer the territory.
seems like that would increase the trade imbalance
 
There are US Customs set up by agreement in some Canadian airports. Just negotiating the deals to do that is usually complicated by the fact that the US wants its agents in Canada to be armed, to consider the location where they do the pre-clearance to be considered "US" territory for the purpose of arresting people and bringing the to the US without extradition process.

Simply put, the US border services do not trust Canadian to apply the rules (In my opinion, US border services do not trust anyone for anything - period - but I digress) and therefore, for such union the US would necessarily require US officers to check entry at all Canadian Port of entry left and have the power to arrest people and bring them to US justice without warrant or process in Canada or to not being held to any Canadian standard in the use of force (in fact to only answer to US authorities for such use of force on Canadian soil). IMHO, that would be ceding too much sovereignty to ever happen.

Moreover, if you think gangs and US guns are coming in the country freely now, watch what would happen then. In my view, that last point should have been Trudeau's retort to Trump's tariff: "You want us to use our border services to do your job of preventing illegal aliens and fentanyl to enter your country! We'll do it if you help us stop the entry in Canada of illegal guns and stop your law enforcement officers from actually instructing refugee claimants who should make their claim in the US on how to enter Canada illegally."
 
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On the military side we could deepen security cooperation by transitioning NORAD from the "North American Aerospace Defence Command" to a more comprehensive "North American Defence Command" with expanded RCN and CA coordination with the USN and US Army as well as active participation in Ballistic Missile Defence.
Looks like we need to bring back the Bi-National Planning Group. It was set up at Colorado Springs after 9/11 to help redefine the defence relationship between the US and Canada, producing two main reports. The largest outcome was BORAD gaining a Maritime Warning role.

I was part of it for a bit, doing Maritime Warning and Intelligence Sharing planning, as well as being a back fill CanadaCom liaison watch officer for exercises and ops.

My name’s even in the Final report
 
... Trump has two main issues with Canada which lead to his "suggestion" that Canada become the 51st State...trade deficits and security issues ...
He's also mentioned a lot about drug trafficking from Canada as well - would this be covered/included under "security"?
 
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