Public service employment has grown by 31 per cent

[Remius]

I will give Canada Post management some credit in that their trial to support a reasonable online bill payment system was a decent idea, but still wasn’t enough of a pivot to fill the needs of Canadians in changing times.

I’m still amazed that Canada Post has essentially the same amount of workers as the CAF’s regular force effective trained strength (55k).

I have a couple of family members that work there and one did work on that.

The issue is that rather than work like a business they work like government so they are always too late to the game to be competitive despite the good ideas.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I will give Canada Post management some credit in that their trial to support a reasonable online bill payment system was a decent idea, but still wasn’t enough of a pivot to fill the needs of Canadians in changing times.

I’m still amazed that Canada Post has essentially the same amount of workers as the CAF’s regular force effective trained strength (55k).

Nope, they're alot bigger...

Our size and scope

• Employees. Almost 68,000 Canada Post segment, paid full-time and part-time employees, including temporary, casual and term employees.

Size and scope | Annual Report 2022

Learn about the size and scope of Canada Post in 2022 through a series of accessible infographics.

www.canadapost-postescanada.ca

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I have always gotten great service from my posties. To the point where one of them was making sure I got my mail from the PASC who could not update my address change. Also had a friend who was a postie and saved a life of one of their clients and another who made such an impact on a old veteran on his route, that the old guy left him his bagpipes when he passed.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Return-to-office rules broken by almost a third of Treasury Board staff: document

Government data indicated that only 70.82 per cent of Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat workers followed the new rules in September.

ottawacitizen.com

Nice.

I think their weasling around this in the PA response is a lot of BS, but don't think it's just TBS; our section was really diligent in Sept, and everyone met or exceeded the 3 (or 5 days for military) of in office presence except for the people traveling.

Still a ton of parking spaces and empty desks at Carling, which is fine, but does piss me off that I can't actually get an assigned desk or a locker because our L2 decided we didn't need it as we're all just in 3 days a week so hoteling works (it doesn't, mathematically).

 

[Remius]

I think their weasling around this in the PA response is a lot of BS, but don't think it's just TBS; our section was really diligent in Sept, and everyone met or exceeded the 3 (or 5 days for military) of in office presence except for the people traveling.

Still a ton of parking spaces and empty desks at Carling, which is fine, but does piss me off that I can't actually get an assigned desk or a locker because our L2 decided we didn't need it as we're all just in 3 days a week so hoteling works (it doesn't, mathematically).

I hear you. We’re seeing a lot of slack in the rules and it’s causing frustration for the teams actually following the intent. Rules are inconsistant and we are seeing a big increase in LR cases.

 

[Remius]

Public servants could lose big as feds redirect $2B pension surplus, union warns

The surplus could be used to pay down the government's debt, but PSAC would rather see it reinvested in retired public servants.

ottawacitizen.com

Well that is one way to find some money…

 

[QV]

With Canada Post posting (heh) loss after loss and their union striking yet again, might be an opportune time to cut 50,000 public service jobs and privatize them. I don't think Canada Post in it's current form can survive the modern era.

 

[dapaterson]

Public servants could lose big as feds redirect $2B pension surplus, union warns

The surplus could be used to pay down the government's debt, but PSAC would rather see it reinvested in retired public servants.

ottawacitizen.com

Well that is one way to find some money…

If you read the OSFI report, you'll notice that the GoC is also adding $6.4B to the account that covers pre-2000 pension liabilities, on top of the $7.3B they put in after the last review.

 

[Remius]

With Canada Post posting (heh) loss after loss and their union striking yet again, might be an opportune time to cut 50,000 public service jobs and privatize them. I don't think Canada Post in it's current form can survive the modern era.

Canada Post types aren’t public service. So it wouldn’t really affect PS numbers.

They definitely need a new model though.

 

[QV]

Canada Post types aren’t public service. So it wouldn’t really affect PS numbers.

They definitely need a new model though.

Ah, thanks. At least the government wouldn't have to bail them out time and again.

 

[Remius]

Ah, thanks. At least the government wouldn't have to bail them out time and again.

There is that but even then. We’ve seen government bail outs for other things not government related.

It would likely still be federally regulated.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Ah, thanks. At least the government wouldn't have to bail them out time and again.

They won’t let Canada Post completely fail. They are critical for rural areas. Unlike everyone else who only has to deliver what is profitable they are forced to do unprofitable things which benefit others.

 

[SupersonicMax]

They won’t let Canada Post completely fail. They are critical for rural areas. Unlike everyone else who only has to deliver what is profitable they are forced to do unprofitable things which benefit others.

I am convinced other companies would pick up the demand.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

They won’t let Canada Post completely fail. They are critical for rural areas. Unlike everyone else who only has to deliver what is profitable they are forced to do unprofitable things which benefit others.

I get Walmart, Costco, Ikea and Amazon all to my door and live in rural Northern, ON. We have PO Boxes here and private couriers are all quicker and more reliable.

 

[Furniture]

I am convinced other companies would pick up the demand.

I'm convinced they would, for huge sums of money. Huge sums of money the kinds of people living in rural areas are less likely to have free for that kind of expenditure.

A functioning postal system is part of the cost of living in a civilized society. If urbanites decided to cut off the rural population for a fairly essential service, they may find that the rural population doesn't take it well.

 

[Remius]

I'm convinced they would, for huge sums of money. Huge sums of money the kinds of people living in rural areas are less likely to have free for that kind of expenditure.

A functioning postal system is part of the cost of living in a civilized society. If urbanites decided to cut off the rural population for a fairly essential service, they may find that the rural population doesn't take it well.

Or cut off Urbanites who,have other options and keep the lights on for rural

 

[Good2Golf]

Or cut off Urbanites who,have other options and keep the lights on for rural

That’s the better choice. As @Humphrey Bogart said, even in off the beaten path Northern Ontario, he gets parcels, packages and goods responsively without Canada Post. My cousins in Southern Saskatchewan near the Montana border do use Canada Post a fair bit, so I support @Remius’ idea of biasing Canada Post to Rural.

 

[dapaterson]

Successive Canadian governments have decided that it's a public policy objective to not charge rural / semi rural areas premiums for services. Accepting that assumption, Canada Post will not be able to break even, and its losses would increase if it were to divest urban / suburban routes.

The prior government direction to further implement central deliveries (super mailboxes) was one inadequate step to enabling greater CP efficiency. But other foundational changes (like moving mail delivery to alternate days) will be necessary to staunch the bleeding at CP.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

That’s the better choice. As @Humphrey Bogart said, even in off the beaten path Northern Ontario, he gets parcels, packages and goods responsively without Canada Post. My cousins in Southern Saskatchewan near the Montana border do use Canada Post a fair bit, so I support @Remius’ idea of biasing Canada Post to Rural.

Think about it logically

The closest anything to my place is 2+hrs away. There are around 3500 people in the village I live in and surrounding area. Delivery is big business here and the people that do it are making big money. We pay a premium for convenience up here.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

Successive Canadian governments have decided that it's a public policy objective to not charge rural / semi rural areas premiums for services. Accepting that assumption, Canada Post will not be able to break even, and its losses would increase if it were to divest urban / suburban routes.

The prior government direction to further implement central deliveries (super mailboxes) was one inadequate step to enabling greater CP efficiency. But other foundational changes (like moving mail delivery to alternate days) will be necessary to staunch the bleeding at CP.

Everyone else charges fair market value up here. Amazon is big business in this part and I know the people that do it. They are ridiculously busy.