Name This Photo!!! - The AFV Recognition Thread

[geo]

Hmmm, woven road wheels = Pz V Panther that's gone convertible

 

[NavyShooter]

Wrong number of road wheels for a panther I think....has the germanic look though....it's not one of the E-series prototypes?

NS

 

[CesarNostradamus]

Its A panzer Troop APC. modified.

 

[Blackadder1916]

Sort of on the right track.  Some "factory" photos.

 

[JBoyd]

Katzchen APC

 

[geo]

Cheez Blackadder.... I look at the factory pictures of the katzchen & compare them to your original post .... not 100% sure.

Your original post appears to show embeded (woven) road wheels while the Katzchen does not have same.

 

[ironduke57]

Simple answer: different prototype´s of the Kätzchen (Kitten). The original design had interleaved roadwheels. Later this was changed to Pz 38 compatible part´s to mainstream production. But lack of resources hindered the serial production.

Regards,
ironduke57

 

[Blackadder1916]

Katzchen APC

You got it.

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/hetzer.htm

In 1943, Auto-Union was ordered to design fully tracked reconnaissance vehicle for the needs of the Eastern Front. The vehicle was to carry 6 to 8 soldiers acting as a personnel carrier and was not to engage enemy vehicles. In early 1944, Auto-Union produced full scale mockup along with two prototypes. The fighting compartment was open at the top. The crew consisted of driver (on the left) and MG42 gunner (on the right). The fighting compartment layout was similar to the Sd.Kfz.251 personnel carrier. The vehicle was powered by 180-200hp Maybach HL 50Z engine. Armor protection ranged from 14.5mm (sides and rear) to 30mm (front). The chassis combined newly designed components (e.g. overlapping steel-rimmed wheels) along with those of PzKpfw IV (e.g. tracks). Both prototypes were tested at Berka in the Summer of 1944 and numerous mechanical problems were encountered. In September of 1944, Auto-Union was ordered to end work on the design and BMM was ordered to continue work by adaptating Jagdpanzer 38(t) Hetzer chassis. One of two Auto-Union prototypes designated as Gepanzerter Mannschaftransportwagen Katzchen (Kitten) was captured by the US Army in early 1945. Two prototypes based on PzKpfw 38(t) nA (neuer Art) were ordered. BMM's design was similar to that of Auto-Union, but featured some modifications (e.g. two MGs instead of one, engine on the right instead of left, improved armor protection - 50mm front, etc). Two type of engines were considered and tested, 220hp Tatra 103 and 280hp Praga NR. The BMM's design had better performance than the Auto-Union one e.g. maximum road speed of 64km/h and maximum cross-country speed of 40km/h with range of 600km. Production of BMM's design designated as Vollkettenaufklarer 38(t) Katzchen (Kitten) was planned but never took place and two prototypes were probably destroyed late in the war.

Cheez Blackadder.... I look at the factory pictures of the katzchen & compare them to your original post .... not 100% sure.

Your original post appears to show embeded (woven) road wheels while the Katzchen does not have same.

  A valid point.  Prototypes from two different manufacturers.
http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Katzchen.htm

 

[geo]

Ahh.... Auto union version.

Auto Union = AUDI

 

[JBoyd]

I am hoping this is not an easy one to get

 

[CesarNostradamus]

T-34 russian tank

 

[JBoyd]

T-34 russian tank

Nope, wrong country

 

[CesarNostradamus]

IS it Japanese?

 

[geo]

Valentine tank

 

[CesarNostradamus]

AHAAA!!!!

;D
Carro Armato Pesante P 26/40

The Front hull has an angle armour plating, and the turrets Ammo fusilade is not centered at the middle but below middle.

 

[geo]

interesting, the P26/40 and the Valentine 2 have similar profiles....

 

[CesarNostradamus]

Guess What I AM!  :warstory:

 

[geo]

The T-100 (nicknamed Sotka, 'hundred') was a twin-turreted Soviet heavy tank prototype, designed in 1938–39, which led to the development of the Kliment Voroshilov tank (KV-1).

 

[geo]

lets try this again.... better picture....

 

[CesarNostradamus]

Modified Milk truck. LOL...at the term "Modified"