Liberal Minority Government 2021 - ????

[Furniture]

Quick question for the NDP can do no wrong crowd, how does propping up an unpopular government, to enact policies that will die before actually taking effect help the party?

$10/day daycare is dying right now, because it is under funded. Much of the LPC's planned, NDP supported, stuff is years away from impacting most Canadians. Most of it will die to a CPC government before it really takes off, so what actual benefit to the NDP is there? A "symbolic" victory reversed within months?

The NDP had a chance to step up and define themselves as the "real" party for the working class. They failed to do that, and hitched themselves to the LPC wagon. You're right in that they now have nothing to gain... but that's only because they already pissed away any real chance for lasting change they had.

 

[brihard]

Quick question for the NDP can do no wrong crowd, how does propping up an unpopular government, to enact policies that will die before actually taking effect help the party?

$10/day daycare is dying right now, because it is under funded. Much of the LPC's planned, NDP supported, stuff is years away from impacting most Canadians. Most of it will die to a CPC government before it really takes off, so what actual benefit to the NDP is there? A "symbolic" victory reversed within months?

The NDP had a chance to step up and define themselves as the "real" party for the working class. They failed to do that, and hitched themselves to the LPC wagon. You're right in that they now have nothing to gain... but that's only because they already pissed away any real chance for lasting change they had.

Who’s the ‘NDP can do no wrong’ crowd here?

 

[Furniture]

Who’s the ‘NDP can do no wrong’ crowd here?

The people making excuses for their terrible political decisions.

I don't particularly like the NDP, but even I am upset by how poorly they have managed their "perceived" power. I wanted the NDP to help crush the LPC by being smart. A smart NDP might have forced the LPC to be better... The current NDP have effectively removed themselves from the political equation, meaning the LPC is likely to continue to be dumb.

 

[brihard]

The goal of any political party is not to ‘crush’ another party, not even if that would please you. It’s generally to try to affect legislation and policy to achieve things that will maintain or increase their support, within the scope of their party’s general values. The best the NDP get from ‘crushing’ the LPC is official opposition. Remember the time they actually did that- and the CPC improved from a minority government to a majority? Cause the NDP remember.

The NDP can do all kinds of wrong. That’s doesn’t mean they aren’t engaging in a calculated strategy. They know that they hold the key to the timing of the next election, and that they have some months yet to improve their electoral position before turning it. For all their talk, they know that their greatest power comes from being depended upon by an LPC minority. That’s just cold objective reality.

 

[RangerRay]

The NDP failed to learn that many times, the smaller party that props up a minority government doesn’t get credit for moving the government their direction and usually loses its “kingmaker” position in the following election. I mean, the BC NDP did it to the Greens in BC not that long ago so I’m surprised they didn’t learn their lesson there.