Liberal Minority Government 2021 - 2025

[captloadie]

Dude, it costs me like $1400 to feed my family a month now,

Is this because of policy, or because the corporate monopoly of the grocery industry is all about making profits and not providing food to Canadians?

our dollar is in the tank,

Agreed.

our resources are locked behind ideological laws,

This is true in part. But is also contributable to the issue of O&G companies trying to make quick cash now and not investing more in vertical integration.

interest rates are through the roof

Really? Interest rates are still much lower, by a third I would estimate, than when my parents were trying to borrow money in the 80s.

and we've lost our biggest trading partner by being weak on national security.

We've lost out biggest trading partner because the 47th President has turned the tables on everything. As long as there was a perceived trade deficit, he was going to find an excuse.

I literally have no idea how partisans are contorting themselves into a position to vote Liberal if there's an election. The ABC rose coloured glasses are thick it seems.

 

[Haggis]

Regarding Mark Carney....

My opinion is he is an impressive candidate. He is educated, well spoken, professionally accomplished, and gives off the aura of being a proper statesman. He is someone who I can respect and who I can see as a Prime Minister.

That being said, there are certain LPC positions that I can't get behind. Mainly to do with taxes and gun control. Which is why regardless of the above, I have trouble supporting them.

As I posted in the Gun Control thread, Nathalie Provost will be running for Carney in a Montreal area riding. My money says she will be Public Safety minister in his government.

 

[Remius]

As I posted in the Gun Control thread, Nathalie Provost will be running for Carney in a Montreal area riding. My money says she will be Public Safety minister in his government.

McGuinty is doing a great job for now. I’d be surprised if they switched him out after.

My money is she will cross the floor to the NDP not feeling Carney is doing enough.

 

[Fabius]

As I posted in the Gun Control thread, Nathalie Provost will be running for Carney in a Montreal area riding. My money says she will be Public Safety minister in his government.

If true that she is nominated as the LPC candidate and Carney signs off that nomination, that is a clear indicator that the LPC has not fundamentally changed under Carney and will in fact continue its hard left drive on culture. Something that will bleed across everything.

 

[MilEME09]

Dude, it costs me like $1400 to feed my family a month now, our dollar is in the tank, our resources are locked behind ideological laws, interest rates are through the roof and we've lost our biggest trading partner by being weak on national security. I literally have no idea how partisans are contorting themselves into a position to vote Liberal if there's an election. The ABC rose coloured glasses are thick it seems.

Cost me more than that this month, but i don't see any side of isle making life cheaper, federally the liberals are screwing us, and in AB provincially I can't point to a single policy that has made things cheaper, especially when Smith gives us a tax cut but then increases the provincial share of property tax taken which shell games the money.

 

[Remius]

If true that she is nominated as the LPC candidate and Carney signs off that nomination, that is a clear indicator that the LPC has not fundamentally changed under Carney and will in fact continue its hard left drive on culture. Something that will bleed across everything.

Was she signed on by carney or by JT?

Or can she win that seat in Quebec?

Cheryl Gallant is still running right? And leslyn Lewis? Signed off by PP? What should that tell us if we apply that logic.

 

[Remius]

338Canada Canada | Poll Analysis & Electoral Projections

338canada.com

Latest aggregate from 338. More seat count drop from the CPC. NDP up a bit but still may be in very dangerous territory.

 

[Remius]

Regarding Mark Carney....

My opinion is he is an impressive candidate. He is educated, well spoken, professionally accomplished, and gives off the aura of being a proper statesman. He is someone who I can respect and who I can see as a Prime Minister.

That being said, there are certain LPC positions that I can't get behind. Mainly to do with taxes and gun control. Which is why regardless of the above, I have trouble supporting them.

Pretty much what the CFP was saying. And a valid position. You should check them out

 

[Brad Sallows]

Cost me more than that this month, but i don't see any side of isle making life cheaper, federally the liberals are screwing us, and in AB provincially I can't point to a single policy that has made things cheaper, especially when Smith gives us a tax cut but then increases the provincial share of property tax taken which shell games the money.

Governments can't do much to make "things cheaper" other than de-regulating (reducing costs of agencies and enterprises) and cutting programs. As long as voters feel its necessary to elect parties who feel its necessary to regulate and provide many things, costs will be higher.

 

[MilEME09]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903051820064199051

 

[Jarnhamar]

And yet, the aggregate of polling showed people were willing to vote for the mean guy way more than Justin before and just after JT said he'd leave.

For sure. After 10 years of Trudeau even (most) of his loyalists couldn't take him any more. Shortly after he signaled he was out Liberals who signaled they would vote Conservative started coming back.

They would have came back for anyone but Carney let's them act like the Liberal party is new and refreshed - convenient way to bury the last 10 years.

Carney's impressive no doubt about that. I think a lot of us Conservatives are jealous. Can you imagine Carney as a CPC leader though? Imagine how berserk that would make the left. Opportunity lost I guess

 

[Remius]

Governments can't do much to make "things cheaper" other than de-regulating (reducing costs of agencies and enterprises) and cutting programs. As long as voters feel its necessary to elect parties who feel its necessary to regulate and provide many things, costs will be higher.

Deregulation is what made eggs expensive in the US. There is a balance.

 

[Remius]

For sure. After 10 years of Trudeau even (most) of his loyalists couldn't take him any more. Shortly after he signaled he was out Liberals who signaled they would vote Conservative started coming back.

They would have came back for anyone but Carney let's them act like the Liberal party is new and refreshed - convenient way to bury the last 10 years.

Carney's impressive no doubt about that. I think a lot of us Conservatives are jealous. Can you imagine Carney as a CPC leader though? Imagine how berserk that would make the left. Opportunity lost I guess

He’d probably get my vote there.

A buddy of mine said that Carney was the conservative leader he’s been waiting for.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Because it's the only statistic that's under preforming. Other things like wage growth, unemployment etc are all second or third in the G7.

Canada is 2nd or 3rd best for unemployment in the G7? Where can I see that?

 

[Remius]

Canada is 2nd or 3rd best for unemployment in the G7? Where can I see that?

Some stats here

January 2025 - Key facts about Canada’s competitiveness for foreign direct investment: Office of the Chief Economist

Novembre 2025 - Key facts about Canada’s competitiveness for foreign direct investment

www.international.gc.ca

 

[Brad Sallows]

Deregulation is what made eggs expensive in the US. There is a balance.

"Deregulation made eggs expensive" isn't much of a counterpoint to suggest that there is any kind of balance. Consider instead what airline deregulation achieved for air fares.

 

[Remius]

"Deregulation made eggs expensive" isn't much of a counterpoint to suggest that there is any kind of balance. Consider instead what airline deregulation achieved for air fares.

The point is that deregulated egg industry led to conditions that raised their cost.

And consider what deregulation has done to said airline quality vs cost.

Not all deregulation is bad but some of it is.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Thanks .

Giving room for a margin of error and some out of date numbers I'm still surprised to see Canada come up as 126 out of 224 countries for unemployment.

 

[Brad Sallows]

The point is that deregulated egg industry led to conditions that raised their cost.

And consider what deregulation has done to said airline quality vs cost.

Not all deregulation is bad but some of it is.

What is meant by "quality"? Flight frills were gradually stripped away long after US deregulation. That was a response to customer demand. Passenger costs of air travel have decreased due to competition and elimination of inherent fees for use-it-or-lose-it frills in favour of pay-for-what-you-want. Annual numbers of airline passenger trips have been trending up for decades. That in turn has consequences for airport "quality" if airport authorities are not responsive to increasing customer demand.

The fact that air travel is affordable for most people is wonderful.

"Deregulation" doesn't mean "remove everything". It's possible to identify improvements and execute, particularly if government agencies and regulators actually listen to people trying to start and run enterprises.

 

[The Bread Guy]

If true that she is nominated as the LPC candidate and Carney signs off that nomination, that is a clear indicator that the LPC has not fundamentally changed under Carney and will in fact continue its hard left drive on culture. Something that will bleed across everything.

I don't know if her alone would bleed across everything, but I'd give up any hope on ANY backing down on gun control if she ever ends up as public safety minister.