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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Canada says it will look at increasing its defence spending and tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever growing sanctions list.

By Tonda MacCharles
Ottawa Bureau
Mon., March 7, 2022

Riga, LATVIA—On the 13th day of the brutal Russian bid to claim Ukraine as its own, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is showing up at the Latvian battle group led by Canadian soldiers, waving the Maple Leaf and a vague hint at more money for the military.

Canada has been waving the NATO flag for nearly seven years in Latvia as a bulwark against Russia’s further incursions in Eastern Europe.

Canada stepped up to lead one of NATO’s four battle groups in 2015 — part of the defensive alliance’s display of strength and solidarity with weaker member states after Russia invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimean peninsula in 2014. Trudeau arrived in the Latvian capital late Monday after meetings in the U.K. with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

Earlier Monday, faced with a seemingly unstoppable war in Ukraine, Trudeau said he will look at increasing Canada’s defence spending. Given world events, he said there are “certainly reflections to have.”

And Canada tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever-growing sanctions list.

The latest round of sanctions includes names Trudeau said were identified by jailed Russian opposition leader and Putin nemesis Alexei Navalny.

However, on a day when Trudeau cited the new sanctions, and Johnson touted new measures meant to expose Russian property owners in his country, Rutte admitted sanctions are not working.

Yet they all called for more concerted international efforts over the long haul, including more economic measures and more humanitarian aid, with Johnson and Rutte divided over how quickly countries need to get off Russian oil and gas.

The 10 latest names on Canada’s target list do not include Roman Abramovich — a Russian billionaire Navalny has been flagging to Canada since at least 2017. Canada appears to have sanctioned about 20 of the 35 names on Navalny’s list.

The Conservative opposition says the Liberal government is not yet exerting maximum pressure on Putin, and should do more to bolster Canadian Forces, including by finally approving the purchase of fighter jets.

Foreign affairs critic Michael Chong said in an interview that Ottawa must still sanction “additional oligarchs close to President Putin who have significant assets in Canada.”

Abramovich owns more than a quarter of the public shares in steelmaking giant Evraz, which has operations in Alberta and Saskatchewan and has supplied most of the steel for the government-owned Trans Mountain pipeline project.

Evraz’s board of directors also includes two more Russians the U.S. government identified as “oligarchs” in 2019 — Aleksandr Abramov and Aleksandr Frolov — and its Canadian operations have received significant support from the federal government.

That includes at least $27 million in emergency wage subsidies during the pandemic, as well as $7 million through a fund meant to help heavy-polluters reduce emissions that cause climate change, according to the company’s most recent annual report.

In addition to upping defence spending, the Conservatives want NORAD’s early warning system upgraded, naval shipbuilding ramped up and Arctic security bolstered.

In London, Johnson sat down with Trudeau and Rutte at the Northolt airbase. Their morning meetings had a rushed feel, with Johnson starting to usher press out before Trudeau spoke. His office said later that the British PM couldn’t squeeze the full meeting in at 10 Downing Street because Johnson’s “diary” was so busy that day. The three leaders held an afternoon news conference at 10 Downing.

But before that Trudeau met with the Queen, saying she was “insightful” and they had a “useful, for me anyway, conversation about global affairs.”

Trudeau meets with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg Tuesday in Latvia.

The prime minister will also meet with three Baltic leaders, the prime ministers of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, in the Latvian capital of Riga.

The Liberals announced they would increase the 500 Canadian Forces in Latvia by another 460 troops. The Canadians are leading a multinational battle group, one of four that are part of NATO’s deployments in the region.

Another 3,400 Canadians could be deployed to the region in the months to come, on standby for NATO orders.

But Canada’s shipments of lethal aid to Ukraine were slow to come in the view of the Conservatives, and the Ukrainian Canadian community.

And suddenly Western allies are eyeing each other’s defence commitments.

At the Downing Street news conference, Rutte noted the Netherlands will increase its defence budget to close to two per cent of GDP. Germany has led the G7, and doubled its defence budget in the face of Putin’s invasion and threats. Johnson said the U.K. defence spending is about 2.4 per cent and declined to comment on Canada’s defence spending which is 1.4 per cent of GDP.

But Johnson didn’t hold back.

“What we can’t do, post the invasion of Ukraine is assume that we go back to a kind of status quo ante, a kind of new normalization in the way that we did after the … seizure of Crimea and the Donbas area,” Johnson said. “We’ve got to recognize that things have changed and that we need a new focus on security and I think that that is kind of increasingly understood by everybody.”

Trudeau stood by his British and Dutch counterparts and pledged Canada would do more.

He defended his government’s record, saying Ottawa is gradually increasing spending over the next decade by 70 per cent. Then Trudeau admitted more might be necessary.

“We also recognize that context is changing rapidly around the world and we need to make sure that women and men have certainty and our forces have all the equipment necessary to be able to stand strongly as we always have. As members of NATO. We will continue to look at what more we can do.”

The three leaders — Johnson, a conservative and Trudeau and Rutte, progressive liberals — in a joint statement said they “will continue to impose severe costs on Russia.”

Arriving for the news conference from Windsor Castle, Trudeau had to detour to enter Downing Street as loud so-called Freedom Convoy protesters bellowed from outside the gate. They carried signs marked “Tuck Frudeau” and “Free Tamara” (Lich).

Protester Jeff Wyatt who said he has no Canadian ties told the Star he came to stand up for Lich and others who were leading a “peaceful protest” worldwide against government “lies” about COVID-19 and what he called Trudeau’s “tyranny.”

Elsewhere in London, outside the Russian embassy, other protesters and passersby reflected on what they said was real tyranny — the Russian attack on Ukraine. “I think we should be as tough as possible to get this stopped, as tough as possible,” said protester Clive Martinez.
 
I don't believe it's anti-imperialism. The last time it was supported because of the ''we're here to hep''. Once, yes, twice, yes third time...come on is more the feeling.
I'm sure that's a factor in the disapproval of such a prospect, but I reckon it is as applicable to Quebeccers as it is to other Canadians, and thus does not serve to explain the difference.
 
I'm sure that's a factor in the disapproval of such a prospect, but I reckon it is as applicable to Quebeccers as it is to other Canadians, and thus does not serve to explain the difference.
I did not pointed out a difference, I just add beef around you comment on Quebecers.
 
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I suspect that many more Canadians are awaking from the haze of ‘Peace Dividend’.

The reality of the actions of several hostile to Canada (other Western countries) is hard to avoid or ignore these days.

You underestimate Canada's ability to put its head in the sand and wail when they find out we have to spend money on killing machines.
 
I suspect that many more Canadians are awaking from the haze of ‘Peace Dividend’.

The reality of the actions of several hostile to Canada (other Western countries) is hard to avoid or ignore these days.
Is it a case of the public being head of the government in this case? I do believe the "average" Canadian understands the danger of China/CCP more than official Ottawa.
 
The average Canadian is pissed that their mobile Starbucks order got messed up by that overworked teenager again....
Ok ok. But I do feel there is an undercurrent in Canada with regards to China. Its not something I have seen before. People I talk to say they have taken our jobs and we buy their crap....and now they are buying us. Living in a manufacturing city this has been felt more deeply.

And when I say average Canadian, I guess my standard is now skewed. I grew up with the "average Canadian" is the CAW (now Unifor) line worker on shift work. But I guess in reality that's not the case anymore. That worker is now old, male and mostly white. But new Canadian are now in there too. Their takes on current affairs are fun and different.
 
Is it a case of the public being head of the government in this case? I do believe the "average" Canadian understands the danger of China/CCP more than official Ottawa.
I would reckon that the average Canadian knows about existential threats to our security. The problem is we have three things that have hobbled our attitudes towards defence since at least 1604:

-Colonial mindset
-Geography
-Economy

Firstly, we have historically depended on others for our own defence. That's everyone from the French, to the British, to the U.S. and NATO. We like to toot our own horn about 1812, Vimy, and Normandy, but forget that we got our asses kicked on our home turf by a bunch of Fenian raiders in 1866. We have had difficulty policing our own waterways and airspace. We haven't see an attack on our cities since York was burned in 1813. Since Confederation, it's been someone else backstopping our own defence. This has led to a complacent attitude within the population and thus in government.

Secondly, geography has meant war is a far off thing that we show up to, never having to play a Home game. Our placement across 2 oceans from our major adversaries has meant its highly unlikely we will be attacked; especially when wehave our most powerful and peaceful partner right next door. What has also played to that mentality is how vast a country we are. Walt Natynczyk once scoffed at a Russian invasion of Canada by saying we'd have to send SAR to save any invaders from freezing to death. The belief we are untouchable because of our size and distance has meant its not considered a likely CoA that China or Russia will be landing Divisions on our soil. Where this falls down is the use of missiles and aircraft, and the "then what?" That happens.

Finally, our economy is almost unscathed by conflict around d the world. Our resources and products are needed around the world, so global stability is good for business; but when your largest trading partner is next door and you are not required to secure your GLOCs or shipping lanes along the coasts, you're sitting pretty. The world could be burning in Europe or Asia, but USMCA will mean our products get to a market.

These things have allowed Canada to sluff off defence and create the social safety net we boast highly about to anyone who will listen. The problem is when you get places like the Nordic countries who manage to have both, and better quality of each. The difference is that the Finns, Swedes, and Norwegians don't have geography on their side. They have needed to get it right the first time and make sure the quality of life their citizens enjoy is protected.

Canada just waits for someone else to do it and plays Grasshopper to the Ants.
 
I would reckon that the average Canadian knows about existential threats to our security. The problem is we have three things that have hobbled our attitudes towards defence since at least 1604:

-Colonial mindset
-Geography
-Economy

Firstly, we have historically depended on others for our own defence. That's everyone from the French, to the British, to the U.S. and NATO. We like to toot our own horn about 1812, Vimy, and Normandy, but forget that we got our asses kicked on our home turf by a bunch of Fenian raiders in 1866. We have had difficulty policing our own waterways and airspace. We haven't see an attack on our cities since York was burned in 1813. Since Confederation, it's been someone else backstopping our own defence. This has led to a complacent attitude within the population and thus in government.

Secondly, geography has meant war is a far off thing that we show up to, never having to play a Home game. Our placement across 2 oceans from our major adversaries has meant its highly unlikely we will be attacked; especially when wehave our most powerful and peaceful partner right next door. What has also played to that mentality is how vast a country we are. Walt Natynczyk once scoffed at a Russian invasion of Canada by saying we'd have to send SAR to save any invaders from freezing to death. The belief we are untouchable because of our size and distance has meant its not considered a likely CoA that China or Russia will be landing Divisions on our soil. Where this falls down is the use of missiles and aircraft, and the "then what?" That happens.

Finally, our economy is almost unscathed by conflict around d the world. Our resources and products are needed around the world, so global stability is good for business; but when your largest trading partner is next door and you are not required to secure your GLOCs or shipping lanes along the coasts, you're sitting pretty. The world could be burning in Europe or Asia, but USMCA will mean our products get to a market.

These things have allowed Canada to sluff off defence and create the social safety net we boast highly about to anyone who will listen. The problem is when you get places like the Nordic countries who manage to have both, and better quality of each. The difference is that the Finns, Swedes, and Norwegians don't have geography on their side. They have needed to get it right the first time and make sure the quality of life their citizens enjoy is protected.

Canada just waits for someone else to do it and plays Grasshopper to the Ants.
You are 100 percent. I agree.

I was just referring to the poll above. And that in this case the public may be ahead of the Ottawa or more so the liberal party on this. They see the threat and are wondering why the PM doesn't.

I say that poll if worded like "will you pay more in taxes for defence?" it would be very different outcome.
 
Except for the U-Boats in the Gulf of St Lawrence mid WWII. We were on our own (AFAIK) and the Germans had a good go at us. But NOBODY in Canada remembers this.
People used to remember, but the people who were old enough to be scared, or fight in that war are pretty much all long gone. Then we had governments since 1991 working to convince us that that war wasn't a thing anymore, so there was no need to prepare for it.
 
I would reckon that the average Canadian knows about existential threats to our security. The problem is we have three things that have hobbled our attitudes towards defence since at least 1604:

-Colonial mindset
-Geography
-Economy

Firstly, we have historically depended on others for our own defence. That's everyone from the French, to the British, to the U.S. and NATO. We like to toot our own horn about 1812, Vimy, and Normandy, but forget that we got our asses kicked on our home turf by a bunch of Fenian raiders in 1866. We have had difficulty policing our own waterways and airspace. We haven't see an attack on our cities since York was burned in 1813. Since Confederation, it's been someone else backstopping our own defence. This has led to a complacent attitude within the population and thus in government.

Secondly, geography has meant war is a far off thing that we show up to, never having to play a Home game. Our placement across 2 oceans from our major adversaries has meant its highly unlikely we will be attacked; especially when wehave our most powerful and peaceful partner right next door. What has also played to that mentality is how vast a country we are. Walt Natynczyk once scoffed at a Russian invasion of Canada by saying we'd have to send SAR to save any invaders from freezing to death. The belief we are untouchable because of our size and distance has meant its not considered a likely CoA that China or Russia will be landing Divisions on our soil. Where this falls down is the use of missiles and aircraft, and the "then what?" That happens.

Finally, our economy is almost unscathed by conflict around d the world. Our resources and products are needed around the world, so global stability is good for business; but when your largest trading partner is next door and you are not required to secure your GLOCs or shipping lanes along the coasts, you're sitting pretty. The world could be burning in Europe or Asia, but USMCA will mean our products get to a market.

These things have allowed Canada to sluff off defence and create the social safety net we boast highly about to anyone who will listen. The problem is when you get places like the Nordic countries who manage to have both, and better quality of each. The difference is that the Finns, Swedes, and Norwegians don't have geography on their side. They have needed to get it right the first time and make sure the quality of life their citizens enjoy is protected.

Canada just waits for someone else to do it and plays Grasshopper to the Ants.
An excellent analysis!
 
Is it a case of the public being head of the government in this case? I do believe the "average" Canadian understands the danger of China/CCP more than official Ottawa.

I don’t think the average Canadian understands any of the current or likely future dangers to Canada and our way of life.

The average Canadian doesn’t seem to understand the danger some of our own political parties and there spokespersons represent (I refrain from using the words “politics” and “leaders” in a joined manner) so it seems a stretch they understand anything related to the CCP as well.
 
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