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Hamas invaded Israel 2023

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GK .Dundas said:
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Two things will happen either in the next few days or weeks. We will see raids and arrests and press coverage or......the Government will roll over and go back to sleep satisfied that they've taken appropriate action.
I would be surprised if the former happens.
The problem is and it something Canadian governments are notorious for in my opinion.
And that's forgetting that they're not the only player in the game. And in these things the " the other guy " can do things too.
Moral outrage is a wonderful thing but it's no substitute for for actually doing something .
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Is it the Government that makes the decision to launch raids and make arrests? I thought it was law enforcement in consultation with the Crown?
 
GK .Dundas said:
Hi



Two things will happen either in the next few days or weeks. We will see raids and arrests and press coverage or......the Government will roll over and go back to sleep satisfied that they've taken appropriate action.
I would be surprised if the former happens.
The problem is and it something Canadian governments are notorious for in my opinion.
And that's forgetting that they're not the only player in the game. And in these things the " the other guy " can do things too.
Moral outrage is a wonderful thing but it's no substitute for for actually doing something .
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Colin Parkinson said:
If you were in a political entity and it was suddenly deemed a terrorist organization, do you get a chance to distance yourself, or are you completely effed?
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GR66 said:
Is it the Government that makes the decision to launch raids and make arrests? I thought it was law enforcement in consultation with the Crown?
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There are criminal charges that cover activities done for/with listed groups. Those cannot be retroactive in the sense that you can be charged for listed-entity offences before an entity was listed. However, criminal charges for terrorism don’t have to pertain to listed entity. Listing just makes some offences easier to prove and puts some on the table that otherwise aren’t. You can be charged with terrorism offences if the elements are proven, whether or not you wear the label of a listed entity.

Terrorism charges would be laid by RCMP, nearly always with the approval of federal prosecutors and, if I recall right, Attorney General consent. But that’s a law enforcement decision, it’s not driven by government. Government doesn’t get to nose in and order police to charge someone with terrorism.

Outside of the terrorism framework, but often potentially overlapping, there are hate crimes offences. These don’t rely on anything out of the terrorism legislation. These investigations would be local police of jurisdiction and provincial crown. In some provinces - notably, and relevantly, British Columbia - police recommend charges, but crown has to approve them.

I still would not be surprised to see hate crimes charges from this event, but that’s a Vancouver Police and BC Crown thing.

No idea if terrorism charges are on the table, or being investigated. However, due to Samidoun being listed. There are things now illegal as of today that weren’t illegal yesterday. You want your life to get complicated? Be a leadership figure in an entity that eats a terrorist listing.
 
Read the US Treasury statement a bit closer - found this ....
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.... with this from the US State Dept ....
"Taking Joint Actions Against International PFLP Fundraiser"
... and these summaries from all over about the chap ...

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www.bnaibrith.ca

Deport Khaled Barakat Petition - B'nai Brith Canada

Deport Khaled Barakat and Charlotte Kates Deport Khaled Barakat and Charlotte Kates Pour le français voir ci-dessous In May 2022, The Government of Canada failed to respond to the thousands of Canadians who signed a B’nai Brith petition to deport Khaled Barakat, a leader of the terrorist group...
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www.middleeastmonitor.com

Palestine advocate barred from Germany over anti-Semitism claims

Palestinian-Canadian journalist Khaled Barakat has been barred from entering Germany for four years over concerns his Palestinian advocacy is anti-Semitic. Barakat has been denied a renewal of his residency permit,...
www.middleeastmonitor.com www.middleeastmonitor.com
... and this little smidgen of info:
www.memri.org

Canada-Based Former PFLP Member Khaled Barakat In Lebanese Newspaper: With Every Response Of The Iran-Led Resistance, The Zionist-U.S. Failure Only Grows; The Extinction Of The Zionist Project Is Only A Matter Of Time Thanks To Armed Struggle, Jihad

Former senior official of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and activist Khaled Barakat, who is based in Canada, wrote in an article published in the Lebanese daily Al-Akhbar on July 2, 2024, praising the "steadfastness" of the "courageous" armed resistance of Lebanese...
www.memri.org www.memri.org
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Small world, eh?
brihard said:
... You want your life to get complicated? Be a leadership figure in an entity that eats a terrorist listing.
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Or the wife of one? ;)
 
Jarnhamar said:
100 meters from the UN compound.

Sounds like the UN and Canada's MPs went to the same school for the blind.
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The UN are being conscripted as human shields, according to the IDF anyways...

UNIFIL's failed role in Lebanon: Acting as Hezbollah's human shield - analysis​

Israel cannot tolerate a situation where Hezbollah terrorists believe they can fire near UNIFIL positions and be immune from an Israeli response.​


What does Guterres think – that the Hezbollah attack tunnels full of equipment and weapons the IDF is unearthing each day in southern Lebanon just magically appeared?

That the rockets and missiles stored in scores of homes in the area materialized out of thin air?

It is now the same Guterres who is rejecting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s appeals to evacuate the UNIFIL forces from the combat zone in southern Lebanon.

The result of this refusal, Netanyahu said in a video message on Monday, is that UNIFIL is serving as Hezbollah’s human shield.

An IDF spokesperson said that in the last month alone, Hezbollah fired 25 rockets at Israel from positions near UNIFIL posts, including one attack that killed two IDF soldiers.

Given that UNIFIL has done little to prevent Hezbollah from bombarding Israel from southern Lebanon since October 8, and given that it did nothing to report Hezbollah’s massive buildup in the region over the years, the claim by the European foreign ministers that the organization is a force for stability is utterly baseless.

www.jpost.com

UNIFIL's failed role in Lebanon: Acting as Hezbollah's human shield - analysis

Israel cannot tolerate a situation where Hezbollah terrorists believe they can fire near UNIFIL positions and be immune from an Israeli response.
www.jpost.com www.jpost.com
 
Initial and unconfirmed reports that Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar may have been killed by IDF troops in Gaza.

From CNN:

Israeli sources say man believed to be Sinwar killed during routine operation ​

From CNN's Jeremy Diamond and Dana Karni
Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar, speaks during a conference in Gaza on November 4, 2019.

Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar, speaks during a conference in Gaza on November 4, 2019.
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Israeli forces encountered a man believed to be Yahya Sinwar during routine military operations in the Gaza Strip, two Israeli sources familiar with the matter said.

Israeli infantry troops encountered three militants near a building in Gaza and engaged them, the sources said.

After the battle ended, troops found a body resembling Sinwar’s and alerted senior commanders.

The Israeli military and intelligence services have since been working to identify whether the body is indeed Sinwar’s through DNA analysis, the sources said.

Earlier on Thursday, Israel’s military said it was investigating whether Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar was killed in military operations in the Gaza strip.

This is a breaking news story. We will bring you more details as we get them.
 
I can’t wait for the Netanyahu - Trump parody video.

He died like a dawg. There was a lot of shooting. They didn’t even knock at the front door. Well, they did but they used a tank instead of the door bell.
 
Cloud Cover said:
I can’t wait for the Netanyahu - Trump parody video.

He died like a dawg. There was a lot of shooting. They didn’t even knock at the front door. Well, they did but they used a tank instead of the door bell.
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That comparison video of Obama/Trump was excellent.

Picture of him out there lying dead in rubble.
 
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