CANFORGEN on Pay and PIL
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George Wallace
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recceguy said:
Yup! You have heard it before: "Your Cheque is in the Mail."
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lcis00110 said:
I agree,
As i am one of the 4 left at my unit that hasnt been paid yet, and its not an alphabetical issue. ( Several "Y"s have recieved it)
IT is a piss off and annoying, and hopefully some lessons were learned from this.......
this was received recently;
Total Reg Force Payments: 22,449 authorized - $264,206,993.24
Total Res Force Payments: 8,951 authorized - $80,114,936.76
Total of 31,400 Payments authorized - $344,321,930.00
There are 10,541 Reg Force files to be reviewed with an estimated payout of $146,687,241.02
There are 3,568 Res Force files to be reviewed with an estimated payout of $36,175,887.83
Total of 14,109 payouts remaining for a estimated $182,863,128.85
All files should be out for payment by end May 2014.
Thats umm so pretty heavy numbers there.......
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The liability was greater, as many folks did not take the PiL. So there is still a multi-million future bill out there.
In the past, severance was done on a pay as you go basis from in year funds. I believe last FY a large amount was set aside for PiL, but I do not know the details.
In the past, severance was done on a pay as you go basis from in year funds. I believe last FY a large amount was set aside for PiL, but I do not know the details.
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PPCLI Guy said:
Not paying down debt but rather falling inline with the Public Service while reducing future liabilities, which is what Severance pay amounts to. So by establishing an advanced payout, based on a fixed date, the long term liability is reduced. People who elected PiL, receive their payments based on their individual pay rate in effect on 28 Feb 12 (I think, correct me if I am wrong). Those who decided not to elect PiL, will still receive "earned" severance pay, however, it will be paid out at the time of release, based on their rate of pay when they release.
As this is paid through the members pay accounts, I can only assume it would come from the "payroll" allocation budget, unless a separate fin coding was used.
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Different fin coding. Though the individual who manages the Reg F pay account was involved, as was the individual who manages the corproate Res F accounts.
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dapaterson said:
You are right with that, I remember hearing/reading about how the MND was made to look like a dumbass in front of parliament because one of his staff made a mistake with the paperwork/reasoning for asking for some money to pay severance pay or whatever.
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As of February 17, 2014, the PIL Team has received over 45,500 files to be audited. Audits have been completed on 33,428 files or 73.4% comprised of both Regular Force and Reserve Force.
At their current rate, they will have completed 45116 out of 45500 files ( 99.22%) on 26 May 14.
At their current rate, they will have completed 45116 out of 45500 files ( 99.22%) on 26 May 14.
George Wallace
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Nice. Now when are they going to empty out their mail boxes? I have a letter from them and phoned to ask why my particulars are incorrect, such as my initials and whether they are indeed handling my file or someone else's?
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George Wallace said:
There were a number of things wrong in my letter also. Like getting through to one of the phone #'s at the bottom, only to be told the number is for an incorrect department and isn't supposed to be on the letter, my release date was wrong, etc :
They also tried to tell me that my 'return of pension contributions' from the 80's was a severance payout and not my own money :facepalm:
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My file was received in Feb 2012 by the PIL team, I have the 729.
I recently sent them an email after their routine update stating they were processing files received in April 2012.
The reply I received was that they indeed had my file and it is either being processed or has been processed.
Then in the same paragraph I was told I should receive payout NLT than June.
That followed by the canned PIL response, we have completed XXX files and on and on.
So now I am really confused. My file is there. It may have been processed or not processed? Wouldn't that be in their data base?
And if they are working on files received in April, why hasn't mine been completed?
I contacted my BOR and the PIL team has not asked for any additional information regarding my files so I am assuming everything is in order.
I really hope that my file, along with many others I know in similar situations, is not sitting in some outbox forgotten about.
Alas all I can do is wait until June and then I might receive my payout.
The fact that there is no recourse or a way to find a definitive answer, from anyone, is the most frustrating thing.
I recently sent them an email after their routine update stating they were processing files received in April 2012.
The reply I received was that they indeed had my file and it is either being processed or has been processed.
Then in the same paragraph I was told I should receive payout NLT than June.
That followed by the canned PIL response, we have completed XXX files and on and on.
So now I am really confused. My file is there. It may have been processed or not processed? Wouldn't that be in their data base?
And if they are working on files received in April, why hasn't mine been completed?
I contacted my BOR and the PIL team has not asked for any additional information regarding my files so I am assuming everything is in order.
I really hope that my file, along with many others I know in similar situations, is not sitting in some outbox forgotten about.
Alas all I can do is wait until June and then I might receive my payout.
The fact that there is no recourse or a way to find a definitive answer, from anyone, is the most frustrating thing.
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I retired in July 13. I was told last week, by the team, not to expect a cheque until at least Sept 14.
That was before I mentioned all the mistakes they had in my audit letter. Now they are in the process of requesting all of my paperwork and records from the archives again, to review and reaudit.
That has pushed my payout further. I'll be lucky to get it now in 2014.
That was before I mentioned all the mistakes they had in my audit letter. Now they are in the process of requesting all of my paperwork and records from the archives again, to review and reaudit.
That has pushed my payout further. I'll be lucky to get it now in 2014.
Eye In The Sky
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Loachman said:
Yeah, as much as I've tried to be patient and wait its getting harder when everyone else in my workplace has theirs but I'm still waiting for mine to be completed. I understand because it's quite large, essentially max'd out, but for the same reason (and an impending posting and home purchase) I'd like it to be over soon.
