Canadian Surface Combatant RFQ

[calculus]

This shows to good effect the scalability of the SPY-7 radar. Also good to see Japan continues to stick with this radar, hopefully putting to rest some of the speculation it is not as good as SPY-6.

Japan's ASEV Super Destroyer: Fresh Details Unveiled - Naval News

The mock-up of the Japan's future AEGIS System Equipped Vessel (ASEV), a large destroyer was showcased at IDEX 2025.

www.navalnews.com

 

[suffolkowner]

Government of Canada announces contract award for the construction of the River-class destroyers for the Royal Canadian Navy - Canada.ca

Today, the Honourable Bill Blair, Minister of National Defence, the Honourable Jean-Yves Duclos, Minister of Public Services and Procurement and Quebec Lieutenant, and the Honourable Darren Fisher, Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence, announced the...

www.canada.ca

finally a contract!

 

[calculus]

Government of Canada announces contract award for the construction of the River-class destroyers for the Royal Canadian Navy - Canada.ca

Today, the Honourable Bill Blair, Minister of National Defence, the Honourable Jean-Yves Duclos, Minister of Public Services and Procurement and Quebec Lieutenant, and the Honourable Darren Fisher, Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence, announced the...

www.canada.ca

finally a contract!

Woohoo! Some good progress on NSS these past 2 days.

 

[suffolkowner]

the $7Billion dollar price tag is a little concerning

Woohoo! Some good progress on NSS these past 2 days.

 

[DBNSG]

Government of Canada announces contract award for the construction of the River-class destroyers for the Royal Canadian Navy - Canada.ca

Today, the Honourable Bill Blair, Minister of National Defence, the Honourable Jean-Yves Duclos, Minister of Public Services and Procurement and Quebec Lieutenant, and the Honourable Darren Fisher, Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence, announced the...

www.canada.ca

finally a contract!

Yes Finally, but all the Liberal directed media horsepower was minister Wilkinson on the West Coast yesterday announcing an Ice Breaking Science vessel. The Liberals have refused to acknowledge that the World has grown darker and far less certain .

So they reluctantly announce the largest Federal Government commitment in Canada's history on a Saturday the day before the Second Trudeau moves on. They are just NOT serious people.

 

[suffolkowner]

Yes Finally, but all the Liberal directed media horsepower was minister Wilkinson on the West Coast yesterday announcing an Ice Breaking Science vessel. The Liberals have refused to acknowledge that the World has grown darker and far less certain .

So they reluctantly announce the largest Federal Government commitment in Canada's history on a Saturday the day before the Second Trudeau moves on. They are just NOT serious people.

the polar icebreakers are a pretty serious announcement
The rivers they probably didn't want to deal with the price shock and all the American systems

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Yes Finally, but all the Liberal directed media horsepower was minister Wilkinson on the West Coast yesterday announcing an Ice Breaking Science vessel. The Liberals have refused to acknowledge that the World has grown darker and far less certain .

So they reluctantly announce the largest Federal Government commitment in Canada's history on a Saturday the day before the Second Trudeau moves on. They are just NOT serious people.

Announcing a contract that they had previously announced and is really just a step on a road Seaspan and the government have been on for a few years already.

 

[PrairieFella]

the $7Billion dollar price tag is a little concerning

Its in-line with the Hunter class in Aus

 

[GR66]

the $7Billion dollar price tag is a little concerning

Not bad compared to the estimated $70 billion lifecycle cost of the F-35's...

 

[JMCanada]

After the announcement of the construction contract I suggest to start a new thread called something like River-class destroyers.

 

[Rainbow1910]

the $7Billion dollar price tag is a little concerning

Hard to judge what is appropriate or not from these figures provided when we are missing effectively all context, we can't compare them to foreign contemporaries when we don't even know what is included within them as far as costs. The RCN typically uses some very strange, overly inclusive costing methods that make comparisons effectively impossible.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Someone making a model already

 

[PrairieFella]

Love it. What a handsome ship. As much as it's bittersweet to see the Navy get all this cool kit, what a great step for the RCN. If this keeps up, Canada might once again by a true naval power.

 

[FSTO]

The RCN typically uses some very strange, overly inclusive costing methods that make comparisons effectively impossible.

The RCN? No, its the accounting Gnomes at Procurement Canada insist on lifecycle costs of all major projects. That is why we get these massive sticker shocks when any piece of gear is announced. And because warship building is bloody expensive no matter which way you look at it and that all those cheaper foreign yards quote a base price for welded steel but not the costs of adding engines, hotel services, weapons, and sensors.

Would you buy a house if the selling price includes taxes, O&M, food, and clothing for the 30 years you plan to have the house?

 

[Czech_pivo]

On Substack a certain former army officer is saying

The RCN? No, its the accounting Gnomes at Procurement Canada insist on lifecycle costs of all major projects. That is why we get these massive sticker shocks when any piece of gear is announced. And because warship building is bloody expensive no matter which way you look at it and that all those cheaper foreign yards quote a base price for welded steel but not the costs of adding engines, hotel services, weapons, and sensors.

Would you buy a house if the selling price includes taxes, O&M, food, and clothing for the 30 years you plan to have the house?

I've argued that exact same point previously.

 

[Rainbow1910]

On Substack a certain former army officer is saying

The RCN? No, its the accounting Gnomes at Procurement Canada insist on lifecycle costs of all major projects. That is why we get these massive sticker shocks when any piece of gear is announced. And because warship building is bloody expensive no matter which way you look at it and that all those cheaper foreign yards quote a base price for welded steel but not the costs of adding engines, hotel services, weapons, and sensors.

Would you buy a house if the selling price includes taxes, O&M, food, and clothing for the 30 years you plan to have the house?

Regardless who hoists it upon who, we are stuck with it like an albatross around our necks.

 

[FSTO]

Regardless who hoists it upon who, we are stuck with it like an albatross around our necks.

I agree, and when the GoC make these announcement they should also outline what the quoted price includes. Do not know why that never happens.

 

[dapaterson]

Regardless who hoists it upon who, we are stuck with it like an albatross around our necks.

Government needs to plan and needs lifecycle information.

That NWOs don't like math isn't a reason not to do it.

 

[FSTO]

Government needs to plan and needs lifecycle information.

And explain how the amounts are broken down to the general public. Instead of just dropping an eye watering price and walking away.

 

[Czech_pivo]

And explain how the amounts are broken down to the general public. Instead of just dropping an eye watering price and walking away.

Its like they are acting just like how Trump loves to throw around numbers - his numbers rarely, rarely tell the complete, whole picture or accurately explain the entire situation. Its' almost like those in power/government don't want to give us accurate information but they want to keep us in the dark and in a state of constant turmoil and being pissed off.....