Canadian Foreign Interference (General)

[Fishbone Jones]

…there’s a rumbling that the US may declassify names and provide Poilievre with an unclassified/FOUO list of compromised parliamentarians, which would be entirely up to the US if it is the source of the intelligence.

Things may get spicy in the coming days/weeks.

He'd probably get more honest information from the Yanks.

I so want to see them do this. It would be even better if they named everyone, including red and orange liberals. Even better if they didn't put any publication restrictions on the briefing.

Here's my question. Say they told PP everything, unrestricted, would Canada be able to impose conditions on PP about what he was told by the US? Would they be able to stop him from revealing the names by saying it would screw up their sources?

I still want to see them give PP the briefing and do an end run on trudeau and blow up his game. Especially, if trudeau's name is on the list.

 

[Good2Golf]

Here's my question. Say they told PP everything, unrestricted, would Canada be able to impose conditions on PP about what he was told by the US?

I honestly don’t know. I don’t think they should be able to, but I don’t know. Even if they tried, it wouldn’t be a good look…but it seems that the Government and not being a good look aren’t to be found any where near each other on a ‘GAF Venn diagram’…

 

[The Bread Guy]

Someone's been doing homework following the November 2022 China leaks....

CSIS tracked intelligence flow across government in foreign interference leak probe

OTTAWA - Canada's spy service tracked the flow of its intelligence reports across government and studied how other agencies handled them as part of an investigation into leaks of classified

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

 

[FSTO]

Dosanjh - “Trudeau is an idiot”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1852673852255658292

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Dosanjh - “Trudeau is an idiot”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1852673852255658292

Bingo.

 

[George Wallace]

Dosanjh - “Trudeau is an idiot”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1852673852255658292

That narrative was as damning of Trudeau as narratives by Gad Saad. Both, basically, are calling Trudeau a moron.

 

[Kirkhill]

He'd probably get more honest information from the Yanks.

I so want to see them do this. It would be even better if they named everyone, including red and orange liberals. Even better if they didn't put any publication restrictions on the briefing.

Here's my question. Say they told PP everything, unrestricted, would Canada be able to impose conditions on PP about what he was told by the US? Would they be able to stop him from revealing the names by saying it would screw up their sources?

I still want to see them give PP the briefing and do an end run on trudeau and blow up his game. Especially, if trudeau's name is on the list.

One problem I see is the issue of those same sources holding information on some high level US individuals. From both US parties. And for that matter on Brits, Aussies and Kiwis. Let alone all our other allies. Where does it end?

 

[Good2Golf]

One problem I see is the issue of those same sources holding information on some high level US individuals. From both US parties. And for that matter on Brits, Aussies and Kiwis. Let alone all our other allies. Where does it end?

It would end when representatives or servants of the citizens stopped collaborating with foreign states.

 

[Kirkhill]

It would end when representatives or servants of the citizens stopped collaborating with foreign states.

Only assuming that everybody agreed that the source was a trusted source. Half of Canadians (my guess) would not consider any info coming out of the US to be valid. That half would be more likely to vote for the listed names.

 

[Good2Golf]

Only assuming that everybody agreed that the source was a trusted source. Half of Canadians (my guess) would not consider any info coming out of the US to be valid. That half would be more likely to vote for the listed names.

No doubt. Some Canadians would rather live in ignorance and trust a Government that hides information from them, and gaslights those who seek the information to be released, or as we saw last year, go as far as to threaten suing Parliament itself over its insistence over release of the information.

 

[Kirkhill]

No doubt. Some Canadians would rather live in ignorance and trust a Government that hides information from them, and gaslights those who seek the information to be released, or as we saw last year, go as far as to threaten suing Parliament itself over its insistence over release of the information.

Unfortunately it is not solely a Canadian affliction. Try telling a Clydesider MI5 has info on his union boss.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Only assuming that everybody agreed that the source was a trusted source. Half of Canadians (my guess) would not consider any info coming out of the US to be valid.

I'm not as pessimistic as you are about the bit in yellow, but I agree with you that way more than a few people would question anything coming from the U.S. Mind you, there's also a segment of the population that would assume the U.S. or any other allied country leaking such information would NEVER ever have bad intentions or ulterior motives behind such moves.

I guess it depends on whether you like what's being leaked or not - as well raised here ...

... Try telling a Clydesider MI5 has info on his union boss.

As was said in other related threads, one person's leaker is another's traitor while also being someone else's whistleblower and yet another's hero.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Dosanjh - “Trudeau is an idiot”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1852673852255658292

Meanwhile, elsewhere ...

India protests Ottawa's allegation its home minister ordered targeting of Sikh activists in Canada

India officially protested on Saturday the Canadian government’s allegation that the country’s powerful home minister Amit Shah had ordered the targeting of Sikh activists inside Canada, calling it “absurd and baseless.”

www.cp24.com

India denies minister plotted anti-Sikh attacks in Canada

NEW DELHI (AFP): India on Saturday denied home minister Amit Shah had plotted to target Sikh activists on Canadian soil and said it had officially rebuked Ottawa over the “absurd and baseles…

thefrontierpost.com

'Deliberate leak to discredit': India lodges protest with Canada over 'baseless & absurd' references to home minister Amit Shah | India News - Times of India

India News: NEW DELHI: India has lodged a protest in the strongest terms in regards to the "absurd and baseless" references made by a Canadian minister about home.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[OldSolduer]

Dosanjh - “Trudeau is an idiot”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1852673852255658292

To add he is stupid, ill educated and a very spoilt little boy. AND very dangerous. Would you let a four year old handle a weapon unsupervised?

Vindictive as well - as JWR.

 

[Good2Golf]

…

'Deliberate leak to discredit': India lodges protest with Canada over 'baseless & absurd' references to home minister Amit Shah | India News - Times of India

India News: NEW DELHI: India has lodged a protest in the strongest terms in regards to the "absurd and baseless" references made by a Canadian minister about home.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Is Trudeau so shallow and vain that he thinks his apparent flaunting of a Hindu red kalava somehow shows genuine respect to Hindi Indians?

 

[OldSolduer]

Is Trudeau so shallow and vain that he thinks his apparent flaunting of a Hindu red kalava somehow shows genuine respect to Hindi Indians?

yes

 

[dimsum]

Is Trudeau so shallow and vain that he thinks his apparent flaunting of a Hindu red kalava somehow shows genuine respect to Hindi Indians?

Wait - isn’t the issue the fact that an Indian minister (the Home Minister, no less) may have a part in a political killing in Canada?

So yeah, JT bad and all, but are we losing sight of the real issue here?

 

[Good2Golf]

Wait - isn’t the issue the fact that an Indian minister (the Home Minister, no less) may have a part in a political killing in Canada?

So yeah, JT bad and all, but are we losing sight of the real issue here?

I have looked through the RCMP release information and didn’t see any specific material directly impugning the Indian Home Minister, but if you want to be by the book, then isn’t the Indian Home Minister innocent until proven guilty?

That still doesn’t mean Trudeau, while carrying on his father’s tradition of failing to deal demonstrably with Khalistani terrorism, isn’t ineffectively pandering to Hindi Indians.

ps. Is Canada serious enough about the issue and certain enough of the intel that Trudeau asks Modi to charge the Home Minister?

 

[Good2Golf]

I have looked through the RCMP release information and didn’t see any specific material directly impugning the Indian Home Minister, but if you want to be by the book, then isn’t the Indian Home Minister innocent until proven guilty?

So to confirm in my own mind I wasn’t missing something in the RCMP’s and other official statements…nope, I didn’t miss anything.

The non-official ‘allegations’ of Indian Home Minister Amit Shah’s ’having something or other to do with potentially targeting Sikh terrorists in Canada’ were nothing official at all…

Instead, information was leaked by a Canadian Government senior public servant to a US-based newspaper (David Morrison GAC’s DM, to the Washington Post - does anyone think that even comes close to being appropriate??) with no official GoC statements naming Shah…

So, which is it? Canada has information that is worth formally pursuing international criminal prosecution of an Indian cabinet minister, or just implied information from an inappropriately leaked source in the form of a Canadian Deputy Minister unauthorizedly providing unsubstantiated information to a non security classified media organization?

I say if it’s worth pursuing international criminal charges against Home Minister Shah, then get on with it.

 

[OldSolduer]

Wait - isn’t the issue the fact that an Indian minister (the Home Minister, no less) may have a part in a political killing in Canada?

So yeah, JT bad and all, but are we losing sight of the real issue here?

Canada has a history of glossing things over and underperforming in areas like this.
You can include Conservative governments in that as well.