AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

[Czech_pivo]

I'm sure that this will ruffle some feathers on what Asterix will be providing going forward.

Canadian Navy’s CSS Asterix to get AI-based onboard vegetable farm​

Canadian Navy's CSS Asterix to get AI-based onboard vegetable farm

Canadian Federal Fleet Services has revealed the acquisition of four AI-based virtual agronomist systems to grow and harvest fresh vegetables onboard its combat support ship Asterix.

www.navaltoday.com

 

[Stoker]

I'm sure that this will ruffle some feathers on what Asterix will be providing going forward.

Canadian Navy’s CSS Asterix to get AI-based onboard vegetable farm​

Canadian Navy's CSS Asterix to get AI-based onboard vegetable farm

Canadian Federal Fleet Services has revealed the acquisition of four AI-based virtual agronomist systems to grow and harvest fresh vegetables onboard its combat support ship Asterix.

www.navaltoday.com

This was already looked at for the Arctic Patrol ships a few years ago. Ultimately it was decided against.

 

[Underway]

I see how it could work for Asterix, but not AOPS. Fresh veggies or at least fresh herbs would be amazing at sea.

 

[dapaterson]

I see how it could work for Asterix, but not AOPS. Fresh veggies or at least fresh herbs would be amazing at sea.

Fresh herbs?

 

[Swampbuggy]

Fresh herbs?

Fresh ain’t the way to go in this instance. They smoke better dry…

 

[Rainbow1910]

This was already looked at for the Arctic Patrol ships a few years ago. Ultimately it was decided against.

A lot more room aboard a ship like Asterix for this sort of thing compared to AOPS.

 

[Stoker]

A lot more room aboard a ship like Asterix for this sort of thing compared to AOPS.

I would of assumed that was the reason, how much yield etc. Although fresh does last for more than 7 days refrigerated.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I would of assumed that was the reason, how much yield etc. Although fresh does last for than 7 days refrigerated.

We carry 14 days Fresh on the CPFs, I am assuming Asterix would carry more.

If anyone is interested we carry:

14 Days Fresh
14 Days Dairy
30 Days Frozen
30 Days Dry/Flour

After 14 days we we switch to frozen and/or canned veggies and fruit, frozen liquid eggs and UHT milk.

And we can resupply vittles underway by means of RAS, by a heavy jackstay.

On Preserver (I miss her) we used to carry much more than this, We also used to have a refer sea can on one of the waist decks from time to time to resupply the frigates and destroyers as required.

 

[NavyShooter]

A buddy of mine Rob on one of the AOPS was growing his own tomato plants on the bridge wings - worked out OK from what I gather.

 

[Underway]

A buddy of mine Rob on one of the AOPS was growing his own tomato plants on the bridge wings - worked out OK from what I gather.

I would be fully onboard with that experiment. And would baby the hell outta them. Gardening and 40k are my hobbies. Carrots, lettuce, kale, bush beans and snap/snow peas are also really good to grow in the various climatic conditions that would be on a bridge wing. Only issue is salt contamination of the soil and the maturity time. Carrots in particular are about 50 days to mature.

Also there is the concerns about "fruits and veg" through other countries customs authorities. Should be ok as long as they are left on the ship.

There is a Mister Roberts meme here somewhere...

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I would of assumed that was the reason, how much yield etc. Although fresh does last for more than 7 days refrigerated.

You guys had refrigeration? Mind you we were only doing 2 week patrols, "fresh" was 2-3 days in the summer.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

You guys had refrigeration? Mind you we were only doing 2 week patrols, "fresh" was 2-3 days in the summer.

We always carried fresh on the tanks!

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Fresh ain’t the way to go in this instance. They smoke better dry…

Just a tad moist. Around 62%.. Otherwise the terpines and flavinoids dry out

 

[Swampbuggy]

Just a tad moist. Around 62%.. Otherwise the terpines and flavinoids dry out

I stand corrected…

 

[Czech_pivo]

I would be fully onboard with that experiment. And would baby the hell outta them. Gardening and 40k are my hobbies. Carrots, lettuce, kale, bush beans and snap/snow peas are also really good to grow in the various climatic conditions that would be on a bridge wing. Only issue is salt contamination of the soil and the maturity time. Carrots in particular are about 50 days to mature.

Also there is the concerns about "fruits and veg" through other countries customs authorities. Should be ok as long as they are left on the ship.

There is a Mister Roberts meme here somewhere...

1) No reason that the seeds can't be started on land/port prior to shipping out. Simply transfer the pods/containers onto the ship prior to sailing.
2) Salt would become an issue after a time for the soil, I'd be more concerned about salt residue building up on the leaves/plants leading to them drying out/stunting/dying. There would be a need to 'wash' the plants of this salt build up and that might result in higher fresh water usage.
3) How do tomatoes/cucumbers/peppers do without access to pollinators - bees/wasps?
3) What is a '40k' hobby?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Just so everyone is tracking for volume.

In one port we ordered:

160Kgs of Peppers
20Kgs of Mushrooms
80Kgs of Tomatoes
300Kgs Spanish Onions
300Kgs Potatoes

That's from a roughly 2 week sail.

That's just a few items. And remember 1Kg = 2.2lbs.

You're gonna need a bigger garden.

 

[NavyShooter]

Of note, one of the deployed ship ordered food supplies through HALIFAX whilst overseas. We had pallets of rice, tomato sauce, spices, etc that we shipped overseas.

I did ask WTH...because that's normally stuff you'd have a ship's chandler order to have waiting on the jetty for you. I mean, except for the Heniz ketchup, that's gotta come form Canada.

 

[Underway]

Of note, one of the deployed ship ordered food supplies through HALIFAX whilst overseas. We had pallets of rice, tomato sauce, spices, etc that we shipped overseas.

I did ask WTH...because that's normally stuff you'd have a ship's chandler order to have waiting on the jetty for you. I mean, except for the Heniz ketchup, that's gotta come form Canada.

And the maple syrup. We brought a shedload of that stuff, but it also served a diplomatic purpose (aside from a nice flavour addition to the moose milk).

 

[Halifax Tar]

Of note, one of the deployed ship ordered food supplies through HALIFAX whilst overseas. We had pallets of rice, tomato sauce, spices, etc that we shipped overseas.

I did ask WTH...because that's normally stuff you'd have a ship's chandler order to have waiting on the jetty for you. I mean, except for the Heniz ketchup, that's gotta come form Canada.

We did that just this passed RAMP in August. Its not uncommon.

Its not my preferred COA, but I am the Log Chief not the Log O.

 

[KevinB]

We did that just this passed RAMP in August. Its not uncommon.

Its not my preferred COA, but I am the Log Chief not the Log O.

I would expect that is fairly port specific no?

Docking in San Diego or a port in Western Europe vice docking somewhere in Africa?