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2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

That would be a recipe for never-ending Liberal majorities. Been there, done that, was issued the Militia Rounds.

I would argue that the Reform/PC division is non-existent now. The merger happened a long time ago.

What we are seeing is a CPC/PPC dynamic. The PPC may have cost the CPC a few seats last time, but they did not come even close to the success that Reform had. Poilievre decided to try to eat their lunch, which completely decimated the PPC. Now, that’s not looking like a good play.
Even the liberals have their internal factions, even the Chinese communist party does. It's a huge factor of internal power plays. For the longest time it was the Martin and chretien factions. Then came the Trudeau factions that took power, Carney strikes me more as a Chretien style liberal rather then continued status quo.
 
Like bringing Mendicino and Fraser back?

Ignoring a MP supporting turning a Canadian over to the Chinese government (on canadian soil) a couple weeks after the story broke of 4 Canadians being executed in China? And after all the foreign interference bullshit were dealing with?

The convenient blind trust that prevents Canadians from seeing what assets he amassed ( and won't be able to discover until he's no longer PM)?
1. Doesn't matter what party Carney had to work with what he had.

2. All major parties initially ignored the report of 4 Canadians being executed, highlighting Carney but ignoring Pierre and Singh failure to address it is beyond hypocritical.

3. We can't beat the blind trust to death but the reality is he no longer controls those assets, how they are bought and sold. By this time next week his entire portfolio could be different. At the same time this past week we know Pierre has assets in Brookfield, which he is critical of carney for being on their board and framing decisions as Carneys. Even though we now know he profited on those decisions. Now he uses an asset manager, so reality is there is no difference between the two because neither has direct control over their investments.
 
Huh. The Security and Intelligence Threats to Elections task force is holding a ‘technical briefing’ on the election tomorrow at 11. Not sure what this is about, but it’s unusual. SITE is an interagency task force (CSIS, CSE, RCMP, GAC) that’s basically exactly what it sounds like- all source intelligence on threats to the integrity of the election.

 
I saw post that ekos now has PP projected to lose his seat.
Doubtful.

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So pre writ he was riding above 60%. It’s now at 50%. A significant drop but he has a lot of buffer.

What would be concerning is if the LPC candidate starts polling above 40%. Right now he has increased by 8% also not insignificant. And seems to be climbing day by day. This also is not a star candidate and seems to be an NPC.

But he has won with less before but he is at less than last time for now.

Edit to add: also the electoral boundaries have changed. So maybe EKOS is using old data gathering. I was up until a recently in PPs riding now I am not. I wasn’t intending to vote his way. So who knows if this boundary change is affecting the poll or not.

EKOS is an outlier but…it has been a bell weather poll.
 
Even the liberals have their internal factions, even the Chinese communist party does. It's a huge factor of internal power plays. For the longest time it was the Martin and chretien factions. Then came the Trudeau factions that took power, Carney strikes me more as a Chretien style liberal rather then continued status quo.
I’m leaning towards him being a Paul Martin Jr Liberal.
Chrétien disliked the CAF as did his old boss PT. Martin was a businessman who understood economics, deficits and business. Carney is cut from the same cloth.
 
Huh. The Security and Intelligence Threats to Elections task force is holding a ‘technical briefing’ on the election tomorrow at 11. Not sure what this is about, but it’s unusual. SITE is an interagency task force (CSIS, CSE, RCMP, GAC) that’s basically exactly what it sounds like- all source intelligence on threats to the integrity of the election.

After the last election I am sure they want to be seen being pro active and keeping everyone informed on the election status. I bet we see one of these every week leading up to the election.
 
Doubtful.

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So pre writ he was riding above 60%. It’s now at 50%. A significant drop but he has a lot of buffer.

What would be concerning is if the LPC candidate starts polling above 40%. Right now he has increased by 8% also not insignificant. And seems to be climbing day by day. This also is not a star candidate and seems to be an NPC.

But he has won with less before but he is at less than last time for now.

Edit to add: also the electoral boundaries have changed. So maybe EKOS is using old data gathering. I was up until a recently in PPs riding now I am not. I wasn’t intending to vote his way. So who knows if this boundary change is affecting the poll or not.

EKOS is an outlier but…it has been a bell weather poll.

I tried finding this purported Ekos claim. I can’t. I saw a Twitter post saying it, but nothing in terms of a source. There’s nothing new on the Ekos site along those lines, and if Carney’s seat was in danger in one of their polls, Frank Graves wouldn’t be able to STFU about it.

I will maintain that Poilievre is in no danger in his own riding. Not even close.
 
I tried finding this purported Ekos claim. I can’t. I saw a Twitter post saying it, but nothing in terms of a source. There’s nothing new on the Ekos site along those lines, and if Carney’s seat was in danger in one of their polls, Frank Graves wouldn’t be able to STFU about it.

I will maintain that Poilievre is in no danger in his own riding. Not even close.
Same. Only a Twitter post. And it looks ridiculous. No way the bloc has no seats.
 
This is the common attack line yes, yes what Carney has done, and says he will do points towards a quick shift to the center as Carney reshapes the liberals. I have seen few indications that a Carney government would be similar to the Trudeau years
Except for like, having the exact same brain trust running the show, and being a key Trudeau economic advisor. You can't magic wand away the erosion of the last 10 year. That same erosion was partly based on the economic advise Carney gave to Trudeau. If he was constantly a 180 from Trudeau, Trudeau would have fired him like Freeland (after she orchestrated opposition to huge deficits to set up her leadership run).

Carney can give me a 50% raise all he wants, he wouldn't need to do that if he didn't advocate for printing money, pushing jobs offshore and tanking our resource sector to support foreign (CCP???) interests. Partisans gonna partisan I guess.
 
Except for like, having the exact same brain trust running the show, and being a key Trudeau economic advisor. You can't magic wand away the erosion of the last 10 year. That same erosion was partly based on the economic advise Carney gave to Trudeau. If he was constantly a 180 from Trudeau, Trudeau would have fired him like Freeland (after she orchestrated opposition to huge deficits to set up her leadership run).

Carney can give me a 50% raise all he wants, he wouldn't need to do that if he didn't advocate for printing money, pushing jobs offshore and tanking our resource sector to support foreign (CCP???) interests. Partisans gonna partisan I guess.
Carney started as an economic advisor specifically for covid and how to help the economy with that. Then he was named to the economic council which did not meet before Trudeau resigned. He was not some all powerful advisor like many make him out to be, he wasn't the finance minister, who had the power to take or not take his advice.

Secondly you say he will push jobs off shore but that's contrary to all his statements about building a robust Canadian economy. Especially the infrastructure and energy corridor.
 
Carney started as an economic advisor specifically for covid and how to help the economy with that. Then he was named to the economic council which did not meet before Trudeau resigned. He was not some all powerful advisor like many make him out to be, he wasn't the finance minister, who had the power to take or not take his advice.
Ah but that’s the narrative. Otherwise he’d be exactly what they hope their own leader would be. According to the CPC he’s been skulking around since 2015. Funny how the noise about him only started after he decided to run.
Secondly you say he will push jobs off shore but that's contrary to all his statements about building a robust Canadian economy. Especially the infrastructure and energy corridor.
 
Ah but that’s the narrative. Otherwise he’d be exactly what they hope their own leader would be. According to the CPC he’s been skulking around since 2015. Funny how the noise about him only started after he decided to run.
And yet until he was running for the liberals, conservatives loved him. It's all politics of the current CPC strategy of anything liberal = bad.
 
In 2007, Carney was named Governor of the Bank of Canada. Who was the PM who made that decision?
 
Controversial opinion but when a protest is declared illegal and then has foreign funding keeping it going, i see no issue with siezing the bank accounts of ororganizers.
But that's such a slippery slope, you may as well pour a swimming pool's worth of water down a hill in January then try to walk up it the next day...

Because context matters. A lot. And people's rights matter. A lot.

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We have to ask ourselves...

Who declared the protest as illegal? Why did they declare it illegal?

Did they just freeze the bank accounts of the organizers, or did normal everyday people get caught up in it and have their accounts frozen too?

What parameters have to be met before a government can just decide people no longer have the right to protest? (Not in theory, but in practice)

Should Canadians all across our vast country have their right to protest restricted because of an incident that's occurring somewhere in Ontario?

Should all of Ontario be subject to this, if the situation that's prompting such a response is confined to a specific border crossing?

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As we all know, if the government can decide one morning that you no longer have the right to do something, it isn't a right - its a privilege...

And as we all know, the government's declaration that they were restricting people's rights was done illegally. (Hence them canceling the use of the Emergencies Act the day before it was to be reviewed by the courts.)

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So a government declares a protest as illegal, and activates the Emergencies Act.

A court finds the government activated it illegally.

And the government cancels it's use the day before the court review, because they knew they were in the wrong.


...I can't say I'm a huge supporter of arbitrarily freezing people's bank accounts.

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We also have to ask ourselves...

What access does the government have to people's personal banking information, that they can push a button & suddenly that person can't use their accounts?

I'm not talking about the mechanisms used to physically freeze the accounts (that's obviously done over the phone with the banks themselves & specific authorizations & approvals needed)

Locating and fixing an account to see who has e-transferred them money, and then freezing those accounts is one thing...

But what if the account holder is transferring a payment from PayPal? What allows the government to access PayPal's internal information that shows who sent the money via PayPal?

Is that person under criminal investigation now? Are they such a threat that production orders & warrants are required to eliminate their ability to use their own bank account?

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Under terrorism legislation, it's a totally different story and I am then 100% in agreement with you.

That's what I mean when I say it's a slippery slope, because legal precedent matters. A lot. Things may seem done & over with, but that's only until those same things are brought up in court in the future.


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This post runs a serious risk of derailing an incredibly important thread, which I sincerely don't want to do.

So as far as it's relevant to this upcoming election, if Carney was behind the government freezing people's bank accounts, it is something people should take note of come election time.

Some people here agree with the government freezing people out of their own bank accounts under the circumstances at the time.

Some people here disagree with the government doing so.

Both groups can point to valid reasons to support their position on the matter.

But it's interesting that Carney's involvement behind the scenes was what it was - regardless of whether people view it as a positive or negative in the Carney column
 
But it's interesting that Carney's involvement behind the scenes was what it was - regardless of whether people view it as a positive or negative in the Carney column
PP won’t go near anything convoy in this election. He has been very quiet about that for some time now. He knows it’s a liability for him.
 
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