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The reason is the same in either case. He wouldn't be muzzled. Whether by NDA or Security Clearance.
I don’t see an issue. I think he made the right move. We can agree to disagree.
2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25
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The reason is the same in either case. He wouldn't be muzzled. Whether by NDA or Security Clearance.
I don’t see an issue. I think he made the right move. We can agree to disagree.
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If you think Carney is done with climate, because he lowered the consumer pportion to zero, you need to read this.
Matthew Lau: Carney is as climate crazy as Guilbeault
Having left his gig as UN Special Envoy for Climate and Finance to lead the federal Liberal government, Mark Carney is now in a position to focus his and Greta Thunberg’s global climate crusade squarely on Canada. The crusade, Carney boasted back in 2021 while in his previous role, is worth many trillions of dollars. As he told CBC News at that year’s UN climate conference, “We have banks, asset managers, pension funds, insurance companies from around the world — more than 45 countries — and their total resources, totalling US$130 trillion” dedicated to transitioning the world’s economy away from fossil fuels. That dollar figure is higher than global GDP.
Last month, Carney laid out Canada’s required contribution to his climate ambitions: “Canada must invest $2 trillion by 2050 — about $80 billion per year — to become carbon competitive and achieve Net Zero. However, investments in decarbonisation currently run between $10–20 billion annually.” The implication is that another $60-70 billion a year will need to be wrung out of Canadian businesses and consumers, either through direct taxation and government spending or with regulatory browbeating to push Canadians’ savings and investments into global warming initiatives.
Carney has made no effort to hide his agenda to browbeat businesses into joining his and Greta Thunberg’s climate crusade. In a 2021 interview he declared, “We need a sustainable economy, and is your business aligned with that? Are your hiring practices consistent with that? Are you developing people in a way that’s consistent with that? Ultimately, what’s being asked of businesses when it comes to climate is, do you have a plan for net-zero? Canada has a legislated objective for net zero alongside another 130 countries.
More at link.
Matthew Lau: Carney is as climate crazy as Guilbeault
Having left his gig as UN Special Envoy for Climate and Finance to lead the federal Liberal government, Mark Carney is now in a position to focus his and Greta Thunberg’s global climate crusade squarely on Canada. The crusade, Carney boasted back in 2021 while in his previous role, is worth many trillions of dollars. As he told CBC News at that year’s UN climate conference, “We have banks, asset managers, pension funds, insurance companies from around the world — more than 45 countries — and their total resources, totalling US$130 trillion” dedicated to transitioning the world’s economy away from fossil fuels. That dollar figure is higher than global GDP.
Last month, Carney laid out Canada’s required contribution to his climate ambitions: “Canada must invest $2 trillion by 2050 — about $80 billion per year — to become carbon competitive and achieve Net Zero. However, investments in decarbonisation currently run between $10–20 billion annually.” The implication is that another $60-70 billion a year will need to be wrung out of Canadian businesses and consumers, either through direct taxation and government spending or with regulatory browbeating to push Canadians’ savings and investments into global warming initiatives.
Carney has made no effort to hide his agenda to browbeat businesses into joining his and Greta Thunberg’s climate crusade. In a 2021 interview he declared, “We need a sustainable economy, and is your business aligned with that? Are your hiring practices consistent with that? Are you developing people in a way that’s consistent with that? Ultimately, what’s being asked of businesses when it comes to climate is, do you have a plan for net-zero? Canada has a legislated objective for net zero alongside another 130 countries.
More at link.
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Not quite a parachute candidate as she is a Councillor in one on the communities.Like it or not, same power any other party. Not a great look, but not the first parachute candidate of any jersey colourThen again, maybe the Team Blue Borg knew something about the offered-up candidate the local office didn’t?
Looks like I am not the only one who thinks that.
daftandbarmy
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Can't say I blame them 
www.timescolonist.com
Rejection of high-profile B.C. candidates raises questions about federal parties' internal vetting
The Liberals refused former B.C. premier Christy Clark, while the Conservatives have rejected Mike de Jong and Anita Huberman.
www.timescolonist.com
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Both parties dodged bullets, there…
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We can likely say confidently that it wasn’t VAdm(Ret) Mark Norman who leaked this…
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Pro tip to federal political parties- never, under any circumstance, recruit a former BC provincial politician to run federally. You will live to regret it…
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Brad Sallows
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The most likely behaviour of a prospective LPC government is business as usual. What the polls are telling them is not that their policy courses of the past decade were unpopular or wrong, but that the leader was unpopular. If you are expecting real changes of direction on firearm policy, defence spending, climate policy, fiscal management, etc, you will be disappointed.
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The constant radio commercials that I keep hearing from the Liberals are emphatic that a vote for Mark Carney is a vote for “change”.
That takes an incredible amount of chutzpah to say that, when it is Trudeau’s former team behind Carney, it is all the same MPs and mostly the same policies (except those that they have stolen directly from the CPC).
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In a couple of ways it's true: they changed their leader, and he'll bring his own prejudices and ideas to the office. We can either believe what he's saying to get elected, or we can look at his track record on broad policy direction. They aren't above gilding the lily and he's obviously not inclined to correct them - I've seen one TV ad claiming credit for fixing the 2008/2009 crisis. (My recollection is that was all Harper, Flaherty, and some bright minds in the Finance shop.) With his misstatements, he's looking to me like an internationalist/globalist opportunist come back to Canada trying to wear the mantle of Canadian nationalism.
What's not going to happen is all the stuff being discussed in defence-related threads. A few items, sure; probably many of the announcements will be re-announcements. They can zero out a carbon tax for now, but the underlying legislation remains and they still lean zero-emission. He's committed to gun control. In 2015 they pulled a fast one on voters by packaging their admitted intent to start deficit spending as "infrastructure spending". The infrastructure spending was only a minor fraction of the proposed deficit, and was further diluted by pretending some kinds of social spending were "infrastructure" or "investment". They are running the same play.
The deficit is already high. The Big Three parties are talking about pushing money out the door to support anyone hard done by over tariffs instead of shaping the regulatory ground to radically alter Canadian foreign trading patterns. The LPC and the CPC are making specific commitments about more tax cuts.
There is no value electing someone who promises to negotiate with Trump, because Trump constantly moves goalposts (which are rarely grounded in sense to begin with). There is no value electing someone to "stand up to Trump" (whatever that is), because that just means piling bad economic ideas on top of bad economic ideas and egging Canadians on to higher levels of anxiety and anti-Americanism.
There is value electing people who will quietly work around the damage by focusing on courses of action entirely under Canadian control that allow people to exploit new opportunities instead of latching onto a government teat that props them up.
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Not looking too hot in Ontario for Pierre, even Ford's people are now commenting on the CPC's apparent lack of being able to read the room.
www.thestar.com
Alt: https://archive.ph/gLBsx
Doug Ford’s internal polling paints a grim picture for Pierre Poilievre in Ontario
Ford's campaign manager warns that unless the Tories "get on it quick, they are going to get obliterated."
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Pretty scathing on-the-record shit there from big Team Blue Ontario League players.Not looking too hot in Ontario for Pierre, even Ford's people are now commenting on the CPC's apparent lack of being able to read the room.
Alt: https://archive.ph/gLBsxDoug Ford’s internal polling paints a grim picture for Pierre Poilievre in Ontario
Ford's campaign manager warns that unless the Tories "get on it quick, they are going to get obliterated."
HavokFour
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I'm starting to think Ford might actually be laying the groundwork a federal run. This quote stuck out to me the most, with Kouvalis making a clear distinction between the OPC and CPC:
Perhaps there's a fracturing of the CPC in our future? I for one wouldn't mind having the option to vote Progressive Conservative again federally, if anything that would also keep the LPC from straying too far from center again.
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Going to call it out now. Many of yu are going to say I am delusional.
Pierre Poilievre and the CPC will win this election. I can't tell if its going to be a minority or a majority government. Caution to my side, a minority government is shaky ground for the CPC.
I will cement my opinion later in this election run as to whether I think majority or minority.
There are 5 reasons why I say CPC win.
I will only share #1 for now is Mark Carney is terrible at speaking. To crowds, to the media, to anyone. Downright sucks.
Hate on me, folks, give 'er.
Pierre Poilievre and the CPC will win this election. I can't tell if its going to be a minority or a majority government. Caution to my side, a minority government is shaky ground for the CPC.
I will cement my opinion later in this election run as to whether I think majority or minority.
There are 5 reasons why I say CPC win.
I will only share #1 for now is Mark Carney is terrible at speaking. To crowds, to the media, to anyone. Downright sucks.
Hate on me, folks, give 'er.
I’m of the same opinion. Watch for a federal run if this goes red again.
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Why? If lack of time to post, that's fine. Any other reason is trolling.
Why?
I’m thinking minority myself. But my assertion is being shaken by the momentum the LPC currently has.
A lot can happen between now and then
I’m bout so sure everyone is seeing that and there is still a bit of forgiveness due bring new to the game I think.
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I knew you would be one to pipe up.
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