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2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

You’re new but 10 years of liberals. Why should Canadians believe you’re change?

- You’ve seen changes in both words and action. Tax regime, more to come on housing in the next week, change to external trade and security partnerships, changes to healthcare coverage. Change to scale of ambition in creating one Canadian economy. I recognize the need to act dramatically and rapidly to build strong economy, control what we can control, and build for us. We have very strong members of caucus and ministers, recruiting exceptionally strong candidates, this is a renewed government. Proof is in the action.


With the exception of a 'temporary' drop in the Consumer Carbon Tax, I've seen no physical changes. I've heard promises, but promises are not action. After 10 years of being lied to by liberals, they are going to have to do better than that. And making promises based on things they stole from the conservative platform doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy either. It’s
a cheap, deceitful and lazy way to conduct a campaign. It tells me the liberals are devoid of their own popular programs. Poliviere has to make a point how carney ensdorses him by stealing his platform. Liberals cannot be trusted.
 
Wasn't expecting Poilievre to call getting a security clearance a "politically motivated process", a statement like that makes me think he will be like Trump and not have a good relationship with the Canadian intelligence apparatus, or possibly ignore it.

This has been explained time and time again. Tom Mulcair just restated it the other day. He fully understands what was going on and why Poliviere refused and why it was a good decision. It had zero to do with the intelligence community and everything to do with the red and orange liberal talking points. If there were enough serious problems to make it an issue, there were ways for CSIS to brief Poliviers without a security clearance. Obviously, none of it mattered anyway. We are going into an election and Canadians still haven’t been told what is going on or who might be compromised. If it’s not important enough to tell Canadians their candidate may be compromised, it’s not important enough for Poliviere to gag himself by getting a clearance/ brief.
 
@Halifax Tar

Glad to see you're still around. I hope all is well.
Yup, doing fine. Much less stress since I've stopped arguing with everyone on this site, and I'm still on my first wife, which I doubt I would have been had I kept it up.

I'll pop in every few months, and lurk in the shadows otherwise, which I think is best for all involved.
 
Yup, doing fine. Much less stress since I've stopped arguing with everyone on this site, and I'm still on my first wife, which I doubt I would have been had I kept it up.

I'll pop in every few months, and lurk in the shadows otherwise, which I think is best for all involved.

Glad to hear you are yours are good.

Its a shame this site caused you stress.

I find to often we need to remember people are not their ideas.
 
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Yup, doing fine. Much less stress since I've stopped arguing with everyone on this site, and I'm still on my first wife, which I doubt I would have been had I kept it up.

I'll pop in every few months, and lurk in the shadows otherwise, which I think is best for all involved.
Welcome back.

Look at the bright side. This thread only has 36 more days of life. :)
 
This has been explained time and time again. Tom Mulcair just restated it the other day. He fully understands what was going on and why Poliviere refused and why it was a good decision. It had zero to do with the intelligence community and everything to do with the red and orange liberal talking points. If there were enough serious problems to make it an issue, there were ways for CSIS to brief Poliviers without a security clearance. Obviously, none of it mattered anyway. We are going into an election and Canadians still haven’t been told what is going on or who might be compromised. If it’s not important enough to tell Canadians their candidate may be compromised, it’s not important enough for Poliviere to gag himself by getting a clearance/ brief.
And it's been refuted enough times that it isn't some gag order or NDA like he says it is. He is deliberately using the fact Canadians don't understand to his advantage. Having clearance doesn't stop him from acting on the information, and CSIS provided him an unclassified brief wouldn't be as helpful.

That said CSIS offered him a brief and he rejected it. So he really does care any way

 
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I mean, it's not like he was friends with Epstein. Just his gf.

(I'm not suicidal by the way)

Why does Dean Blundell say Canada Proud is spending hundreds of thousands? Looks like $300.
 
I mean, it's not like he was friends with Epstein. Just his gf.

(I'm not suicidal by the way)

Why does Dean Blundell say Canada Proud is spending hundreds of thousands? Looks like $300.

I had to go look and see who he was. He certainly appears to be an unsavoury character.
 
I mean, I'm fairly confident I don't hang out with ANY international human traffickers. Or their girlfriends...

Nor does anybody I know.



But hey...it's photoshopped, remember? 😉

Nothing to see here folks!! Move along, and stop asking me all these silly questions!! (But, like, also vote for me...keep?)
 
I mean, I'm fairly confident I don't hang out with ANY international human traffickers. Or their girlfriends...

Nor does anybody I know.



But hey...it's photoshopped, remember? 😉

Nothing to see here folks!! Move along, and stop asking me all these silly questions!! (But, like, also vote for me...keep?)
Nothing photoshopped from the actual story.


That story ran Jan 10th.

First dirty tricks strike. This is going to be a pretty dirty campaign.
 
Nothing photoshopped from the actual story.


That story ran Jan 10th.

First dirty tricks strike. This is going to be a pretty dirty campaign.

And how many lies has Carney been caught in over the last couple of weeks? Why would his Maxwell statement be taken as true? Because he says so?
I don’t know what the truth is, but I'm not taking his word for anything.
 
And it's been refuted enough times that it isn't some gag order or NDA like he says it is. He is deliberately using the fact Canadians don't understand to his advantage. Having clearance doesn't stop him from acting on the information, and CSIS provided him an unclassified brief wouldn't be as helpful.

That said CSIS offered him a brief and he rejected it. So he really does care any way

Respectfully disagree, re Having clearance doesn't stop him from acting on information...

Having a security clearance doesn't prevent him from acting on information - by and large.

However, signing a legally binding NDA in which the only way he will receive the briefing is if he agrees to not discuss it - DOES prevent him from acting on the information


In one scenario - PP receives the briefing after signing the NDA, but can't actually tell Canadians what information was relayed in the briefing

Thats not a good look for a guy who's been wanting an open & transparent government


In another scenario - he agrees to the NDA & gets the briefing, and decides to share that information with Canadians because he believes people have a right to know who their MP's really are & what they've really been up to on taxpayer dollars

He'd be in legal jeopardy for violating a legally binding agreement, and because Trudeau has framed this situation as "just too dangerous for the taxpayers to know about..." he could face jeopardy under the GSA/OSA


In another scenario - he's told the only way to get the briefing is if he agrees to never discuss what gets communicated with the public, so he doesn't bother with the briefing because there is no point


Also remember...just because Justin says "There is no NDA!" doesn't mean there isn't an NDA...

Do we know for sure, 100%, that there isn't an NDA in place? No, we don't.

Trudeau says there isn't. Pierre says there is.

There seems to be more evidence that points to there being one than there not being one.


Personally, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to the guy who hasn't lied through his teeth to us for the last 10 years, been caught accepting Chinese money to his fancy foundation, decriminalized hard drugs, or who chose to prorogue parliament rather than just hand over the documents the RCMP were requesting (same documents the House Speaker also ordered to be turned over...)

...

Also, people forget that Pierre has already been a cabinet minister. He's already had several security clearences.
 
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