Brad Sallows
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So there are other kinds of collusion with foreigners that actually happen, but never rise to the same level of public attention as manufactured collusion?
Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)
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They may want her as leader, but I assure you no one else does.
That move would cost them not only the election but Opposition for many years to come.
Her association and linkages to PMJT are too much of an albatross to see her lead the LPC into anything but oblivion.
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Interesting video.
My one question is the whole “little potato” spat in the beginning of his term - if the LPC and CCP are actually that close then why would either side want to cause any diplomatic incidents like the stuff between JT and Xi? Political theatre?
The foreign interference report (what parts people can read) will be very enlightening.
daftandbarmy
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Hence why she had to resign and skewer PMJT. Chrystia Freeland is nowhere near ready to assume office but she will hang out in the wings and rebuild her rep away from PMJT. Memories are short and she can take a run in a few years when people have forgotten.
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The Liberal Party needs a reformer and rebuilder. I say that as someone who detests what the Trudeau (père et fils) Liberals have become since 1967 but who wants that great Party to prosper because I know that 
needs two socially moderate, fiscally responsible and globally engaged political parties to swap power every few years and, right now, I think we have less than one of those.
needs two socially moderate, fiscally responsible and globally engaged political parties to swap power every few years and, right now, I think we have less than one of those.
Maxman1
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Or maybe it's time for a new party to take its place, like a revival of the Canadian Labour Party.The Liberal Party needs a reformer and rebuilder. I say that as someone who detests what the Trudeau (père et fils) Liberals have become since 1967 but who wants that great Party to prosper because I know that
I am 100% positive that Trump won with numbers Trudeau couldn't even dream of matching, even when adjusted for the population difference
The LPC can't even win a by-election right now, as has been demonstrated by the last 4 in a row. Winning anywhere close to half of the votes is a pipe dream for Justin...
(Unless I'm missing something, and Justin isn't desperately holding onto power by his fingernails?)
There is one that I hope can step into that void but it’s likely a long shot.
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Maybe not by his fingernails (yet), but his fingers have gotta be getting DAMNED tired by now.
Do tell ...
It's kinda the same thing with Kamala. She could say anything she wants, but it doesn't erase the fact that she was Vice President during the Biden years, and didn't accomplish anything notable during that time...
Freeland has been Deputy PM during the Trudeau years, a decade of 'sunny ways and bullshit' that have most Canadians pissed off that they broke the country.
Her stepping in as Trudeau's replacement would devastate the party before it could even hope to regain any trust, and prove to everybody once again that the LPC just can't read a room if their very existence depended on it
Halifax Tar
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Thank you for that. That was a well spent 1.5hrs.
ArmyRick
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At this point, the Liberals should accept the loss. It really does look like we are heading for an election very soon (long before October) and once the Liberals are toast, they need to one figure out what they stand for and two, focus on rebuilding the party. It will take years.
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From what I have been seeing across social media from the Trudeau Zealots is the belief that the foreign interference report due out end of Feb is somehow going to torpedo PP. Is there a chance of that happening or just wishful thinking?
ArmyRick
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Wishful thinking I suspect.
Halifax Tar
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I have to believe, because of how toxic things are in the house and the historical precedence that LPC acts only in its own interests, that if CPC and or PP was in anyways implicated in a meaningful way that would have been public knowledge immediately.
Or I guess they could be hanging on to this nugget for a campaign... But I'm not sure the LPC has that kind of tactical forethought left.
ArmyRick
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I am guessing here. If there was anything really serious or violating laws, the PM would have most likely acted by now if it was PP and/or the CPC. I also note the RCMP have not layed any charges. No CSIS whistleblowers have come forward or leaked anything.
To be honest, I think it is pure straw grasping.
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Any chance of some links, @Stoker? I hadn’t seen anything like that. I agree with others that if there was a fire to any such ‘smoke’ that Team Red would have brought it to light in “Look over there!” mode.
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To be honest more of the mentions are "friends" of mikethenavyguy on X. Very Anti CPC and PP person. As well I would have to believe that if there was actual willing foreign interference it would of been acted upon. More than likely unwilling I suspect.
