Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[dapaterson]

He is the leader of a G7 nation and there is something called "TIMING"

This is a shit time to zip out on vacation. Do you seriously not see this?

Not his first WTF vacation (Truth, Reconciliation and surfing at Tofino comes to mind).

 

[OldSolduer]

I could care less where he goes on vacation.

It’s funny that that annoys people though.

However he left in the dead of night without addressing the public or anything and avoided planned traditional media interviews.

He’s running.

Agreed on the running part.

We had a premier not long ago (Conservative) who was vilified for going on vacation in Costa Rica (IIRC) and owning a 5 million dollar home.

Yeah I agree - where he goes on vacay is his business and no one else's.

And he's running and hiding....

 

[Navy_Pete]

He is the leader of a G7 nation and there is something called "TIMING"

This is a shit time to zip out on vacation. Do you seriously not see this?

Sure, and I think he should have resigned then buggered off, but we'll still get people whinging about PMs vacation costs , repairs to official residence etc and other shit that is just part of the cost of doing business.

It's embarrassingly petty and small minded.

 

[OldSolduer]

We're not talking about Hotblack DeSatio, spending a year dead for tax purposes.

remember Captain Tuttle?

 

[DBNSG]

The PM has to travel via either 412 or 437 Sqns to places, in case they have to return fast for whatever reason. They can’t just fly Air Canada.

I mean, if I can figure out how to charter a Challenger (and I had the money), I’d do it for kicks.

If the British P.M. can and does fly Commercial then Canada's can and should as well. This 'rule' of VVIP flight services by RCAF only certainly preserves 412's resources while other parts of the RCAF , not so much.

 

[RangerRay]

We had a premier not long ago (Conservative) who was vilified for going on vacation in Costa Rica (IIRC) and owning a 5 million dollar home.

I think what really got people wrapped up was he spent months at a time in Costa Rica while claiming he was still running the province from down there. It was more like “Work from Another Country” than “Work from Home”.

I didn’t begrudge his place in Costa Rica or his $5 million house. If you can get rich and get that stuff, that’s great. But when you’re living out of the country for months on end and tell me you’re still running the province…that sounds a little dodgy to me.

 

[dapaterson]

Keep 412 but replace the Challengers with Twin Otters?

 

[GR66]

If the British P.M. can and does fly Commercial then Canada's can and should as well. This 'rule' of VVIP flight services by RCAF only certainly preserves 412's resources while other parts of the RCAF , not so much.

You can fly from London to virtually every European capital in 1-2 hours and flights are plentiful. Try doing that out of Ottawa.

And no, the British PM does not always fly commercial - typically only on vacation. There are RAF and contracted VIP aircraft that are also used depending on the circumstances for official use.

I'm all for the Government not wasting our money but as @Navy_Pete said above there are some expenses that a serious country just should accept.

 

[Cloud Cover]

You can fly from London to virtually every European capital in 1-2 hours and flights are plentiful. Try doing that out of Ottawa.

And no, the British PM does not always fly commercial - typically only on vacation. There are RAF and contracted VIP aircraft that are also used depending on the circumstances for official use.

I'm all for the Government not wasting our money but as @Navy_Pete said above there are some expenses that a serious country just should accept.

Yes they do fly commercial even if not on vacation and I confess to not knowing what the triggers are for civilian air passage vs military transport.

Boris Johnson flew to the US when he was PM using BA. Several times in fact.

But the UK PM also uses RAF aircraft as well.
That being said, is there any actual confirmation Trudeau is in Hawaii or is it just speculation because an RCAF transport jet flew there perhaps for an actual military purpose.

 

[Maxman1]

If you ask the crew, it broke down and they needed to fly to Hawaii for parts and service, could be stuck there for weeks.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Yes they do fly commercial even if not on vacation and I confess to not knowing what the triggers are for civilian air passage vs military transport.

Boris Johnson flew to the US when he was PM using BA. Several times in fact.

But the UK PM also uses RAF aircraft as well.
That being said, is there any actual confirmation Trudeau is in Hawaii or is it just speculation because an RCAF transport jet flew there perhaps for an actual military purpose.

Awaiting the first pic of him walking on the beach from an eagle eyed snowbird.

 

[dimsum]

That being said, is there any actual confirmation Trudeau is in Hawaii or is it just speculation because an RCAF transport jet flew there perhaps for an actual military purpose.

Asking for proof in a discussion forum? Are you new?

 

[The Bread Guy]

Keir Starmer flies commercial economy if in Europe.

Seen coverage of BoJo on commercial flights, but I don't know if the incumbent's the best comparitor. If he flew biz class in the UK when he headed the Crown Prosecution Service, I'm guessing his tastes may not have cheapened as PM - shades of Team Orange's JS?

Revealed: Keir Starmer billed taxpayer nearly £250,000 for travel expenses at CPS

The Labour leader racked up an extraordinary expenses bill - an average of close to £50,000 a year - while he was senior public prosecutor, including a chauffeur-driven car alongside first and business class flights around the world.

www.declassifieduk.org

 

[Halifax Tar]

Sure, and I think he should have resigned then buggered off, but we'll still get people whinging about PMs vacation costs , repairs to official residence etc and other shit that is just part of the cost of doing business.

It's embarrassingly petty and small minded.

On these forums you are the only one bringing up costs.

 

[Good2Golf]

Keep 412 but replace the Challengers with Twin Otters?

…with floats.

 

[The Bread Guy]

If the British P.M. can and does fly Commercial then Canada's can and should as well ...

We'll see if any new Canadian PM takes up on that precedent ....

 

[Navy_Pete]

On these forums you are the only one bringing up costs.

The first response you had was about the exchange rate, and then him not paying the costs so he doesn't care anyway, so that's what I was responding to. (Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.))

I agree he's running away, but the very first complain from someone else was cost, not him buggering off, which is what I find ridiculous every time it comes up.

It's not new, they did it to Harper, which was bullshit then, and I'm sure they'll keep doing it to the next PM, which will still be bullshit.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-s-baseball-trip-hit-taxpayers-with-45-000-tab-1.1204212

 

[Cloud Cover]

Asking for proof in a discussion forum? Are you new?

lol!

I want to believe that it’s not true. Buggering off to Hawaii while the country is essentially under attack is a dick move - even for him. If that’s is indeed where he is…

 

[Quirky]

I want to believe that it’s not true. Buggering off to Hawaii while the country is essentially under attack is a dick move - even for him. If that’s is indeed where he is…

He's a coward, that's the only word to describe it. Say what you want about Zelenskyy, he at least stayed in Kiev knowing his life was in danger and his days were numbered. Trudeau wouldn't hesitate to cut and run to save himself in the same situation.

 

[Halifax Tar]

The first response you had was about the exchange rate, and then him not paying the costs so he doesn't care anyway, so that's what I was responding to. (Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.))

My point was that he's rich. I doubt he cares as much about the exchange rate as I do. According to Google he's worth around 96 mil.

Look if you need help interpreting what I post, just ask questions. Or put me on ignore. Either or works for me.

I agree he's running away, but the very first complain from someone else was cost, not him buggering off, which is what I find ridiculous every time it comes up.

It's not new, they did it to Harper, which was bullshit then, and I'm sure they'll keep doing it to the next PM, which will still be bullshit.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-s-baseball-trip-hit-taxpayers-with-45-000-tab-1.1204212

Sure bud.