The War in Ukraine

[Remius]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/08/politics/biden-administration-american-military-contractors-deploy-ukraine/index.html

Biden is looking to do as much as possible before the eventual “deal”

 

[KevinB]

Well since it is being talked about openly now

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854539298160177549

Mike Pompeo as SecDef, and Robert O'Brian as National Security Advisor would most likely be at lot more aggressive on Russia, and supportive of Ukraine than Snake Sullivan is.

 

[RangerRay]

Well since it is being talked about openly now

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854539298160177549

Mike Pompeo as SecDef, and Robert O'Brian as National Security Advisor would most likely be at lot more aggressive on Russia, and supportive of Ukraine than Snake Sullivan is.

But would Russia turn down an offer that effectively forces the Finlandization of Ukraine and leaves them in control of ~20% of Ukrainian territory?

 

[KevinB]

But would Russia turn down an offer that effectively forces the Finlandization of Ukraine and leaves them in control of ~20% of Ukrainian territory?

I understand that there are about 5 major versions of Trumps Peace Plan being floated.

Some are much more aggressive than others.

 

[Kirkhill]

Mike Pompeo is the man who presented the "Trump's peace" plan in the summer, which is an unhoped for plan for Ukraine (includes 500 billion lend-lease, implemented if Putin does NOT want to accept the solutions proposed by the US and not by Russia).

500 BUSD of Lend Lease Aid?

What will be the Transfer Price on the old Bradleys and M113s in reserve inventory?

Destroyers-for-bases deal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The destroyers-for-bases deal was an agreement between the United States and the United Kingdom on September 2, 1940, according to which 50 Caldwell, Wickes, and Clemson-class US Navy destroyers were transferred to the Royal Navy from the US Navy in exchange for land rights on British possessions.

Generally referred to as the "twelve hundred-ton type" (also known as "flush-deck", or "four-pipers" after their four funnels), the destroyers became the British Town class and were named after towns common to both countries. US President Franklin Roosevelt used an executive agreement, which does not require congressional approval. He was sharply criticised from antiwar Americans, who pointed out that the agreement violated the Neutrality Acts.

Destroyers for bases, followed by Lend-Lease, followed by the Marshall Plan.

 

[Kirkhill]

I understand that there are about 5 major versions of Trumps Peace Plan being floated.

Some are much more aggressive than others.

Pick a card, any card.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Well since it is being talked about openly now

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854539298160177549

Mike Pompeo as SecDef, and Robert O'Brian as National Security Advisor would most likely be at lot more aggressive on Russia, and supportive of Ukraine than Snake Sullivan is.

Note who else is at least allegedly in on the conversations, though.

Musk Reportedly Took Part In Call Between Trump And Zelenskiy

Elon Musk was present during a phone conversation between U.S. President-elect Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, according to media reports citing sources.

www.rferl.org

Original report in Axios here.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Yea, Crimean war 2.0 or is it 3.0?

Great movie when it was actual people acting out the scenes and not CGI. Might have to watch it again.

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