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The Khadr Thread

Overwatch Downunder said:
We (the sheeple) are our own worst enemy.
OWDU

I agree, Wes.
Most of the people I talk to have pretty much given up on politics. Some don't like to even read the papers anymore for the sake of their blood pressure. They just skip to the sports section.
 
If things work out, he can come to Canada in about 25 years after his trial and sentence in Levensworth and try his luck in court.

By 2035, few people will even remember who this is, if there is a Liberal government in 2035, the outcome is predictable...
 
As far as I'm concerned, he gave up his Canadian status/ rights when he left the country and turfed a grenade at a soldier.

Let him rot IMHO.

As for the lawsuit....let's see which politician picks up his cause and runs with it.

Regards
 
Highlights mine...

STATEMENT BY JUSTICE MINISTER ROB NICHOLSON REGARDING THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA DECISION ON OMAR KHADR
February 16, 2010


OTTAWA, February 16, 2010 - The Honourable Rob Nicholson, P.C., Q.C., M.P. for Niagara Falls, Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada, made the following statement today regarding the Government of Canada's response to the Supreme Court of Canada's decision in Prime Minister of Canada, et al. v. Omar Ahmed Khadr:

    "In its ruling, the Supreme Court recognized the constitutional responsibility of the executive to make decisions on matters of foreign affairs, given the complex and ever-changing circumstances of diplomacy, and the need to take into account Canada's broader interests. The Supreme Court did not require the Government to ask for accused terrorist Omar Khadr's return.

    "In response to the Supreme Court's ruling, the Government of Canada today delivered a diplomatic note to the Government of the United States formally seeking assurances that any evidence or statements shared with U.S. authorities as a result of the interviews of Mr. Khadr by Canadian agents and officials in 2003 and 2004 not be used against him by U.S. authorities in the context of proceedings before the Military Commission or elsewhere.

    "Omar Khadr faces very serious charges, including murder, attempted murder, conspiracy, material support for terrorism, and spying. The Government of Canada continues to provide consular services to Mr. Khadr."

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This, via the Canadian Press:
The Conservative government's decision not to seek Omar Khadr's repatriation from a U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, is an "egregious" violation of the 23-year-old man's rights, his lawyer said Tuesday.

Khadr's legal team will file an emergency motion in Federal Court Wednesday asking that it quash a decision by the federal government to ask the U.S. government to refrain from using any evidence gathered by Canadian officials in any future prosecution of Khadr.

"It's an egregious violation to just completely not even allow us to write a letter or to even have notice of the fact that they are thinking of making a decision," Edmonton lawyer Nathan Whitling told The Canadian Press ....
 
Another Khadr bites the dust. :)

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2010/02/senior_al_qaeda_mili.php


Senior al Qaeda military commander killed in Predator strike
By Bill RoggioFebruary 20, 2010 12:13 PM


The US killed a key al Qaeda military leader based in Pakistan's Taliban-controlled tribal agency of North Waziristan during an airstrike on Feb. 17.

Sheikh Mansoor was killed in a Predator attack that targeted a Taliban compound in the village of Tapi near Miramshah, the main town in North Waziristan. Two other "militants" were initially reported killed in the airstrike; it is not currently known if there were any other senior al Qaeda or Taliban operatives killed. Dawn News reported that the airstrike "left number of other important militants killed."

Both Geo News and Dawn reported that a funeral was held for Mansoor, and that Mohammed Haqqani, a mid-level Haqqani Network military commander and brother of the group's top military commander Siraj Haqqani, was killed by another drone strike while preparing to attend Mansoor's burial on Feb. 18.

US intelligence officials contacted by The Long War Journal said they believe Sheikh Mansoor was killed in the attack on Feb. 17.

"We're pretty sure that Mohammed Haqqani was killed while going to Sheikh Mansoor's burial," an intelligence official said. "We were gunning for Siraj but got his little brother instead. It is still a good kill; the Haqqanis are dangerous and Mohammed was involved in the family business."

Sheikh Mansoor was a commander in al Qaeda's Lashkar al Zil, or the Shadow Army, US officials said. He was based in North Waziristan but carried out attacks against US and Afghan forces across the border in Afghanistan.

Mansoor's family has a pedigree in jihad. His father was Ahmed Said Al Khadr, an al Qaeda operative who was killed in October 2003. Khadr, who is also known as Abdul Rehman Khadr al Kanadi, was born in Cairo, Egypt, but was a Canadian national.

Khadr was a close confidant of Osama bin Laden, who invited Kanadi to join the Shura Majlis, the top leadership council, after the US invasion of Afghanistan. Khadr was tasked with helping al Qaeda families escape into Pakistan. He was also close to South Waziristan Taliban leader Mullah Nazir, who shelters al Qaeda leaders in the Wazir tribal areas.

Khadr was wanted by the US for his suspected ties to the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the US. He was also on the United Nations' 1267 Committee list of designated terrorists. Pakistani security forces killed Kanadi and several other al Qaeda fighters during a raid in October 2003.

Mansoor's two other brothers, Omar and Abdurahman, have both spent time at the Guantanamo Bay detention facility in Cuba after being detained while fighting US forces in Afghanistan in 2001. Omar, the youngest detainee (he is thought to have been 15 when he was captured), is still in custody. Abdurahman was released in 2003.

Background on the recent strikes in Pakistan

US intelligence believes that al Qaeda has reconstituted its external operations network in Pakistan's lawless, Taliban-controlled tribal areas. This network is tasked with hitting targets in the West, India, and elsewhere. The US has struck at these external cells using unmanned Predator aircraft and other means in an effort to disrupt al Qaeda's external network and decapitate the leadership. The US also has targeted al Qaeda-linked Taliban fighters operating in Afghanistan, particularly the notorious Haqqani Network.

As of the summer of 2008, al Qaeda and the Taliban operated 157 known training camps in the tribal areas and the Northwest Frontier Province. Al Qaeda has been training terrorists holding Western passports to conduct attacks, US intelligence officials have told The Long War Journal. Some of the camps are devoted to training the Taliban's military arm; some train suicide bombers for attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan; some focus on training the various Kashmiri terror groups; some train al Qaeda operatives for attacks in the West; some train the Lashkar al Zil, al Qaeda's Shadow Army; and one serves as a training ground for the Black Guard, the elite bodyguard unit for Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahiri, and other senior al Qaeda leaders.

The air campaign has had success over the past three months. Since Dec. 8, 2009, the air campaign in Pakistan has killed three senior al Qaeda leaders, a senior Taliban commander, a senior Haqqani Network commander, two senior al Qaeda operatives, and a wanted Palestinian terrorist who was allied with al Qaeda. The status of Pakistani Taliban leader Hakeemullah Mehsud is still unknown.

Already this year, the US has killed Mansur al Shami, an al Qaeda ideologue and aide to al Qaeda’s leader in Afghanistan, Mustafa Abu Yazid; Sheikh Mansoor, a Shadow Army commander based in North Waziristan; Mohammed Haqqani, a military commander in the Haqqani Network; and Haji Omar Khan, a senior Taliban leader in North Waziristan. Jamal Saeed Abdul Rahim, the Abu Nidal Organization operative who participated in killing 22 hostages during the 1986 hijacking of Pan Am flight 73, is thought to have been killed in the Jan. 9 airstrike. And Abdul Basit Usman, an Abu Sayyaf operative with a $1 million US bounty for information leading to his capture, is rumored to have been killed in a strike on Jan. 14, although a Philippine military spokesman said Usman is likely still alive and in the Philippines.

In December 2009, the US killed Abdullah Said al Libi, the top commander of the Shadow Army; Zuhaib al Zahib, a senior commander in the Shadow Army; and Saleh al Somali, the leader of al Qaeda's external network [see LWJ report, “Senior al Qaeda and Taliban leaders killed in US airstrikes in Pakistan, 2004 – 2010” for the full list].




 
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Good on our side for continuing to decapitate the terrorist bands' leadership.
 
I wonder if these events will inform/change/influence the minds of those who are calling for the return of Omar Khadr to Canada?

I doubt it.
 
George Wallace said:
I wonder if these events will inform/change/influence the minds of those who are calling for the return of Omar Khadr to Canada?

I doubt it.

Oh George, he's innocent and his remaining buddies/ family in Pakistan are misunderstood farmers who are in the wrong place at the wrong time.

He should be set free.

/sarcasm

Regards
 
It's nice to see some good news for a change.  May he not be  the last.
 
While I am not going to loose any sleep over this, I am not sure he is a member of the Khadr family.

See this reference for a story which includes the family members.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/khadr/

The other option is that he was missed by the media when they researched the story. If he was one of the family, this may mean he was a Canadian citizen. Anybody?
 
tomahawk6 said:
Sheikh Mansoor was a commander in al Qaeda's Lashkar al Zil, or the Shadow Army, US officials said. He was based in North Waziristan but carried out attacks against US and Afghan forces across the border in Afghanistan.

Mansoor's family has a pedigree in jihad. His father was Ahmed Said Al Khadr, an al Qaeda operative who was killed in October 2003. Khadr, who is also known as Abdul Rehman Khadr al Kanadi, was born in Cairo, Egypt, but was a Canadian national.

Khadr was a close confidant of Osama bin Laden, who invited Kanadi to join the Shura Majlis, the top leadership council, after the US invasion of Afghanistan. Khadr was tasked with helping al Qaeda families escape into Pakistan. He was also close to South Waziristan Taliban leader Mullah Nazir, who shelters al Qaeda leaders in the Wazir tribal areas.

Khadr was wanted by the US for his suspected ties to the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the US. He was also on the United Nations' 1267 Committee list of designated terrorists. Pakistani security forces killed Kanadi and several other al Qaeda fighters during a raid in October 2003.

Mansoor's two other brothers, Omar and Abdurahman, have both spent time at the Guantanamo Bay detention facility in Cuba after being detained while fighting US forces in Afghanistan in 2001. Omar, the youngest detainee (he is thought to have been 15 when he was captured), is still in custody. Abdurahman was released in 2003.

Looks to me that CBC missed something, or someone else is confusing the many similar names of insurgents in that region.  However, the alias of "al Kanadi" would point to a "Canadian".
 
I think, although the story is vague, is that the reference to "al Kanadi" is to Khadr senior who was Egyptian.
 
A quick internet search suggests that third and Khadr brothers (there was a fifth who died in infancy) are:

+ Abdullah Ahmed Khadr (عبدالله أحمد خضر) (b. 1981) who, the news suggests, is or was, as late as Oct 09, still in custody in Toronto while a judge sorts out a request for extradition to the USA; and

+ Abdulkareem Khadr (عبد الكريم خضر) (b. 1989) who is a paraplegic (injured in the same blast that killed his father) and that he lives with his mother in Toronto.

The other two, of course, are Omer (in Guantanamo) and Abdurahman Khadr (عبد الرحمن خضر) (b. 1982).

Is the story suggesting that Sheikh Mansoon = Abdurahman Khadr? It doesn't look like that to me; it seems to suggest that there is a sixth brother.



 
That is an option, although he was the self-proclaimed black sheep of the family. He would have been in his late-20s, if he was Shiekh Mansoon.

The question is, as Edward notes, was there a sixth brother. Perhaps there is another wife and family somewhere. Inquiring minds want to know.
 
Sometimes Monday mornings aren't that bad, when news like this is heard.

OWDU
 
Breaking news, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions (§29) of the Copyright Act from the National Post, on everyone’s favourite Canadian terrorist:

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2652507
U.S. trying to repatriate Khadr: sources

Steven Edwards, Canwest News Service

Sunday, March 07, 2010

NEW YORK -- Obama administration officials are quietly seeking a way to repatriate Canadian-born terror suspect Omar Khadr, an authority in a position to know has confided.

"They don't have the stomach to try a child for war crimes," said the source, who declined to be identified because of the sensitive nature of such a U.S. bid.

Mr. Khadr's age of 15 at the time of the alleged offences is playing on the minds of certain administration officials – especially those with backgrounds in the type of activism that has clashed with some of the more controversial U.S. anti-terror efforts, the source signalled.

Samantha Power, Michael Posner and Harold Koh are among administration officials with the strongest backgrounds in human rights study and activism. For example, Assistant Secretary of State Posner was founding executive director of Human Rights First, which has advocated Mr. Khadr's repatriation as one alternative to his continued prosecution in the military system established at the U.S. naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

But even those seeking to return Mr. Khadr to Canada don't feel the United States can make the first move. They want Ottawa to ask for Mr. Khadr back so that the Obama administration has "political cover" to dodge any domestic backlash resulting from the release of an accused terrorist from the U.S. justice system.

"There are political repercussions," the source said. So administration officials are "looking for a Canadian [out]reach." Their determination to explore what "we can do" is nevertheless there, the source added. The U.S. "would like to send him back."

The U.S. Department of Justice declined comment on the issue.

"Omar Khadr has been referred for [a] military commission prosecution," said Dean Boyd, spokesman in the department's National Security Division. "I have no comment for you on whether or not there are any discussions between the United States or Canada regarding Omar Khadr's case."

The government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper has long publicly maintained it will not seek Mr. Khadr's return, saying he faces serious charges in the United States that need to be addressed.

After rejecting at least two repatriation and rehabilitation plans proposed by Mr. Khadr's Canadian lawyers, the government also won key Canadian Supreme Court backing in January for maintaining its refusal to ask Washington to give him up.

Mr. Khadr faces five war crimes charges before the military commission system created under the presidency of George W. Bush. Among them is murder in the death of Delta Force Sgt. Chris Speer, who was fatally wounded by a hand grenade that Khadr allegedly tossed during a 2002 firefight in Afghanistan.

Under Bush's presidency, the military judge in Mr. Khadr's case rejected a bid by his Pentagon-appointed defence lawyers to have the case thrown out on grounds his "child soldier" status contravened international treaties.

But while U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said last November Mr. Khadr would be one of five Guantanamo terror suspects whose prosecutions would remain in the military commissions, it emerged Friday that decisions he announced on five others – these, the five co-accused planners of the September 11, 2001 attacks – could be changed.

The accused co-conspirators – who include self-confessed 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed – may now be returned to the military commissions for prosecution following widespread opposition to their being tried before a civilian court in New York, as Holder had announced. There is also speculation that a change in venue could be part of a wider deal to attract Republican support in Congress for a plan to close the Guantanamo detention camps, which President Barack Obama said in his first week in office he would do within a year.

Mr. Obama last year ordered tweaking of the Bush-era commission system in order to keep using it to try selected terror suspects. But the question of Mr. Khadr remains unique because of his age at the time of the alleged offences.

Military prosecutors, who have said they will not seek the death penalty in the event Khadr is convicted, have insisted his age at the time of the firefight is relevant only as a mitigating factor at a sentencing hearing.

Insiders say the prosecutors have signalled they'd seek a "decent number" of years of imprisonment that would well exceed the current time served – but would be short of the maximum life sentence he could face if found guilty.

Sgt. Speer's widow, Tabitha, is also expected to testify at any sentencing hearing. His death left her alone to raise their two young children.

Canwest News Service


This complicates life for Prime Minister Harper; the people who really want Khadr back would not vote Tory even if Harper gave every Khadr clan member millions of dollars for life; those who vote Tory want Khadr to rot in some prison anywhere but in Canada – they may decide to punish Harper if he cooperates in Khadr’s return.
 
True,  but Obama & Co. want to come across as the defenders of children, etc.....with the child soldier moniker, all the Democrat bleeding hearts are starting to believe their own propaganda.....as long as it doesn't effect them...
 
"Child Soldier" is one thing, what M. Khadr is accused of was not that he was a child soldier.  Do we give 15 year olds carte blanche to go halfway 'round the world to engage us and our allies?  Methinks not.
 
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