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If NZ can do it in a week, and the people clapped, then so will we. I just hope the Cons don't take the bait, what is done by OIC can be reversed by OIC after an election.
SeaKingTacco said:I feel sometimes, that as a gun owner in Canada, that I am caught between federal politicians, whose endgame motive on firearms ownership I cannot fully trust and a vocal group of firearms owners whose rhetoric on firearms I find distasteful and will be seized upon by those opposed to all firearms ownership in Canada to use as a club against us all.
The fact of the matter is that in Canada, there is no constitutional protection for firearms ownership, unlike the US. To run around pretending otherwise and comparing Canada to Venezula is somewhat of a stretch. At least for now.
Cloud Cover said:If NZ can do it in a week, and the people clapped, then so will we. I just hope the Cons don't take the bait, what is done by OIC can be reversed by OIC after an election.
SeaKingTacco said:The fact of the matter is that in Canada, there is no constitutional protection for firearms ownership, unlike the US. To run around pretending otherwise and comparing Canada to Venezula is somewhat of a stretch. At least for now.
Remius said:Very much so. A very simple read of the history of Venezuela shows that it is apples and oranges. That won't stop people from believing it to be true as long as it fits their narrative.
Convince the government that legal gun owners are not the problem. Except that legal gun owners blew a away a bunch of people in Quebec and Christchurch.
I think we need to move away from the term legal gun owners and go with "lawful" gun owners. Anyone can do illegal things withy legal tools. Knives, cars, Tylenol. A legal gun owner can do unlawful things.
So lawful gun owners are not the issue. It's the unlawful ones that need to be targeted.
... but by then the semis and handguns will have been collected and destroyed. There will be no need for an OIC and the Liberal opposition will push very hard against it.Cloud Cover said:what is done by OIC can be reversed by OIC after an election.
Fishbone Jones said:.....and it will cost a government millions upon millions to buy back whatever they decide to ban....
Haggis said:... but by then the semis and handguns will have been collected and destroyed. There will be no need for an OIC and the Liberal opposition will push very hard against it.
Look at the budget. There is NO money set aside to finance any buybacks. The gun grabbers have supported Bill C-71 and Minister Blair's campaign against handguns and semis on the pretext that there will be confiscation without compensation, just like in the 1990's. The LAST thing the Liberals want to do is to alienate the antis by being too soft in their application of the bans. The Liberals will need to show immediate results in order to capitalize on the support of the anti-gun crowd before the election.
My firm belief is that bans are coming - soon. Handguns, semi rifles and shotguns and, for good measure, pump shotguns. They will be overarching, comprehensive, immediate and diligently enforced. There will be no grandfathering. There will be no buyback and there will be at least a Liberal minority government in October as a result.
Haggis said:... but by then the semis and handguns will have been collected and destroyed. There will be no need for an OIC and the Liberal opposition will push very hard against it.
Look at the budget. There is NO money set aside to finance any buybacks. The gun grabbers have supported Bill C-71 and Minister Blair's campaign against handguns and semis on the pretext that there will be confiscation without compensation, just like in the 1990's. The LAST thing the Liberals want to do is to alienate the antis by being too soft in their application of the bans. The Liberals will need to show immediate results in order to capitalize on the support of the anti-gun crowd before the election.
My firm belief is that bans are coming - soon. Handguns, semi rifles and shotguns and, for good measure, pump shotguns. They will be overarching, comprehensive, immediate and diligently enforced. There will be no grandfathering. There will be no buyback and there will be at least a Liberal minority government in October as a result.
SeaKingTacco said:And what better way than to enrage millions of gun owners, who don't vote Liberal, anyway.
They get to change the channel on SNC.
In fact, they stand to gain the more they goad gun owners- some of whom are virtualiy garaunteed to say and do inflammatory things, which will then run 24/7 on CBC Newsworld.
Cynical and very, very dangerous.
The CPC had better have already gamed this out.
I read it. I focused on the line related to the topic at hand.Fishbone Jones said:Please read my response again.
Fishbone Jones said:What I said was,
"Until property rights are enshrined in the Charter and it will cost a government millions upon millions to buy back whatever they decide to ban, "
If you believe I quoted you out of context, I am sorry. But, like you, I represent everything Liberals disdain and I'm taking this upcoming gun grab very, very personally as it's a disgusting, self serving and deeply offensive affront to the values I spent my entire adult life defending. I will fight it and I will campaign vigorously against any politician who supports it as it is symbolic of a government's mistrust of those who brought them to power and it's desire to rule rather than govern Canada.Fishbone Jones said:No sweat, I'm used to it.
Rifleman62 said:I don't own guns. I shoot with a hand gun in the US with a friend who has several kinds of wpns.
Is it possible to move your guns to the US, store them in a facility, and go there to shoot as an alternative to losing them completely?
Where were you 313 posts ago?Target Up said:All we have to do is make being a criminal illegal. That way, nobody will ever get killed again, too easy.
Rifleman62 said:I don't own guns. I shoot with a hand gun in the US with a friend who has several kinds of wpns.
Is it possible to move your guns to the US, store them in a facility, and go there to shoot as an alternative to losing them completely?