Royal Marines Hazing Video
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Anyone seen this:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20051127/hazing_051127/20051127?hub=TopStories
The video is on the right side. This one isn't the full video and has been edited (shortened), I can't find the original full video anymore which was on a British news site but just a warning that it is graphic and offensive in nature. Somehow I don't think the Royal Marine Commandos are going to be disbanded.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20051127/hazing_051127/20051127?hub=TopStories
The video is on the right side. This one isn't the full video and has been edited (shortened), I can't find the original full video anymore which was on a British news site but just a warning that it is graphic and offensive in nature. Somehow I don't think the Royal Marine Commandos are going to be disbanded.
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The above link has an article with some details but here's the full scoop with some more disturbing facts:
Probe into Royal Marines bullying claim
November 27, 2005 - 12:29 PM
Britain's Ministry of Defence has launched an investigation into claims of violent bullying in the Royal Marines.
It said it had launched the probe as the News of the World newspaper published photographs of what it said were recruits at the Royal Marines being forced to fight each other naked in a bizarre initiation ceremony.
The blurred photos, taken from a video sequence, show around a dozen men standing naked in a field.
Two of them are seen fighting each other, first with large rubber mats wrapped around their arms and then with bare fists.
The photos, published in Sunday's edition of the paper, then appear to show a man dressed in blue, who the paper says is a more senior Marine, kicking one of the new recruits in the head.
The final photo of the series shows a recruit lying naked on the ground. The paper says he is unconscious.
The News of the World said the ceremony was secretly filmed in May this year at a barracks near Plymouth by another soldier, who claimed abuse was widespread within the Marines.
He said recruits were tortured with electric shocks to their genitals, forced to crawl naked through thorns and ordered to jump out of bedroom windows, which had caused some to break their legs, the paper said.
The MoD said it was satisfied the tape was genuine.
"The Royal Marines take these allegations extremely seriously and have a zero tolerance policy on bullying and harassment," a spokesman said.
"An SIB (Special Investigations Board) investigation has been launched.
"Bullying and harassment is not widespread within the armed forces. Behaviour of this kind will not be tolerated and every effort is made to apply this policy rigorously."
There have been a number of allegations of abuse within the British armed forces recently, most notably in connection with the deaths of four young soldiers at Deepcut army barracks in Surrey between 1995 and 2002.
A parliamentary report into bullying in the armed forces concluded earlier this year that it was rarely reported and that for too long the services "had failed to grasp the nettle of duty of care".
http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Probe-into-Royal-Marines-bullying-claim/2005/11/27/1133026332879.html
The worst part is that a day later or so another marine from a different unit (40 Commando) came forth with another video.
Probe into Royal Marines bullying claim
November 27, 2005 - 12:29 PM
Britain's Ministry of Defence has launched an investigation into claims of violent bullying in the Royal Marines.
It said it had launched the probe as the News of the World newspaper published photographs of what it said were recruits at the Royal Marines being forced to fight each other naked in a bizarre initiation ceremony.
The blurred photos, taken from a video sequence, show around a dozen men standing naked in a field.
Two of them are seen fighting each other, first with large rubber mats wrapped around their arms and then with bare fists.
The photos, published in Sunday's edition of the paper, then appear to show a man dressed in blue, who the paper says is a more senior Marine, kicking one of the new recruits in the head.
The final photo of the series shows a recruit lying naked on the ground. The paper says he is unconscious.
The News of the World said the ceremony was secretly filmed in May this year at a barracks near Plymouth by another soldier, who claimed abuse was widespread within the Marines.
He said recruits were tortured with electric shocks to their genitals, forced to crawl naked through thorns and ordered to jump out of bedroom windows, which had caused some to break their legs, the paper said.
The MoD said it was satisfied the tape was genuine.
"The Royal Marines take these allegations extremely seriously and have a zero tolerance policy on bullying and harassment," a spokesman said.
"An SIB (Special Investigations Board) investigation has been launched.
"Bullying and harassment is not widespread within the armed forces. Behaviour of this kind will not be tolerated and every effort is made to apply this policy rigorously."
There have been a number of allegations of abuse within the British armed forces recently, most notably in connection with the deaths of four young soldiers at Deepcut army barracks in Surrey between 1995 and 2002.
A parliamentary report into bullying in the armed forces concluded earlier this year that it was rarely reported and that for too long the services "had failed to grasp the nettle of duty of care".
http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Probe-into-Royal-Marines-bullying-claim/2005/11/27/1133026332879.html
The worst part is that a day later or so another marine from a different unit (40 Commando) came forth with another video.
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The worst part is that there are any videos made at all.
The guy in the surgeon's outfit seems to be acting alone, and I don't see how any of this is worse than pugil stick fighting or kung crew (sp)
We seem to get all worked up about nothing these days....
The guy in the surgeon's outfit seems to be acting alone, and I don't see how any of this is worse than pugil stick fighting or kung crew (sp)
We seem to get all worked up about nothing these days....
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GO!!! said:
Yeah, we break each other's legs all the time pugil training in our unit. :
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Michael Dorosh said:Yeah, we break each other's legs all the time pugil training in our unit. :
Ah, so it's the ammount of damage done to the individual that makes it wrong?
In that case we better shut down the army entirely, we wouldn't want anyone getting killed.
In the meantime we should start an investigation into why several of our soldiers were allowed to die in government sponsored "hazing rituals" in Afghanistan. What kind of civilized government would require it's soldiers to go through such horrible experiences? Shooting at people and getting shot at? It's a horrible thing to force someone to do just so they can say they're a "soldier". EVERYONE should be allowed to be a soldier regaurdless of disabilities, sensibilities, and DEFFINITELY without having to "prove themselves" by risking their lives!
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Michael Dorosh said:Yeah, we break each other's legs all the time pugil training in our unit. :
Who had a broken leg?
Guys get knocked out in unarmed cbt classes, the landing swings and landing on DZs. If you don't participate in any demanding trg, perhaps you should take it up with your unit. ^-^
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When an instructor puts the boots to a guys head, I'd say they've crossed the line. Way over the line.
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48Highlander said:
It's the amount of damage inflicted unnecessarily making people jump out windows that I was referring to. My, what a valuable training tool that is. I bet the 48th do that all the time, right? Dileas.
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GO!!! said:
ordered to jump out of bedroom windows, which had caused some to break their legs, the paper said.
Perhaps you should read all the posts.
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Michael Dorosh said:
No, the Queens Own do. Except they jump out of the tower. They call it para training, but we all know it's really just a hazing ritual. </SARCASM>
And, ofcourse, you're basing all of your outrage on hearsay. There's no evidence anyone was at any point made to jump out of a window. Why not stay with the facts?
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Michael Dorosh said:
I did'nt see anyone jumping out of windows in the video, and no reports of broken legs have been proven. I would think that even an amateur(ish) journalist such as yourself would have known the difference between inflammatory heresay and substantiated fact.
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and the evidence in the video that these nut jobs are royal marines is... where?
How can we be sure this isnt the house of commons :
When an instructor puts the boot to somebody yeah its over the line, but fighting naked in the middle of nowhere and cross dressing, thats ... not normal. Its not that I find it sickening or disturbing.... I just can't figure out why the hell they would do something like that.
Hazing happens , sure but...
"Alright guys, everybody get naked and head out to the field for some mud wrestling. Has anyone seen my school girl outfit?"
What the....
How can we be sure this isnt the house of commons :
When an instructor puts the boot to somebody yeah its over the line, but fighting naked in the middle of nowhere and cross dressing, thats ... not normal. Its not that I find it sickening or disturbing.... I just can't figure out why the hell they would do something like that.
Hazing happens , sure but...
"Alright guys, everybody get naked and head out to the field for some mud wrestling. Has anyone seen my school girl outfit?"
What the....
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Mack674 said:
Give "Green-Eyed Boys" a read if you can get your hands on it. It's about 3 Para and their battles in the Falklands. If you wanted makeup for drag, you asked Mortar Platoon because they were a pack of cross-dressers. Lots of naked men, shack rats, shit and all that jazz - it makes this stuff look gentle.
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