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Replacing the Subs

I don't think so. That date marks the closing of the RFI. The project office will presumably take all that data and come up with recommendations that will form the basis of the RFP, unless they come up with a recommendation to sole source. All this will take many months in any case.
I don't know any other published dates than contract award in 2028 (which I personally think is too late). I don't see anything in the short term that would require an active session of parliament - the bureaucrats should be able to handle it all.
Will there likely be any sort of press release on 28 Feb or 1 Mar regarding the closing of the RFI and who's submitted a bid?
Given our current political situation, is it safe to say that NO sole source recommendation will be given?
 
Will there likely be any sort of press release on 28 Feb or 1 Mar regarding the closing of the RFI and who's submitted a bid?
Given our current political situation, is it safe to say that NO sole source recommendation will be given?
Who can meet the requirements? Technical and availability?
 
Will there likely be any sort of press release on 28 Feb or 1 Mar regarding the closing of the RFI and who's submitted a bid?
Given our current political situation, is it safe to say that NO sole source recommendation will be given?
I doubt it. There may be some kind of release stating the RFI is closed, but since no decision will have been made yet, I don't see any kind of big press release on March 1st. Even if there is a decision to sole source it will take some time to paper that up. Trying to predict what DND will do is kind of like a crap shoot though, so I could be 100% wrong....
 
Forcing existing ships to sub in as inefficient and poorly suited dive ships is incredibly Canadian, but I'd much rather them purchase or build say a pair of converted/purpose built vessels for the task.
Seems to me VARD has a number of designs that could be fitted for task. Bonus being they are a Canadian design firm (mostly).


This one looks promising: VARD 9 610 - Vard Marine
 
No, for two reasons:

(1) We have not committed to building 12 submarines yet; and,

(2) the internal modifications to AOPS that would be required to turn them into proper Deepsea diving support/submarine rescue ships are extensive and I just don't want to give ISL another $500M just for redesigning an existing design, when it would be cheaper to design/build from scratch based on the requirements of a proper DSDS ship.
Yep, sounds like a job for a non-combatant yard!
 
Agreed. It's a Seaspan job as far as I am concerned. besides, the type of mini-submarines, AUV's etc. that would be required are mostly built and developed (and exported all over the world) on the West Coast.
 
Speaking of Mini subs and submarine rescue does anyone know if Nuytco still in the business now that it's founder has passed ?
 
Speaking of Mini subs and submarine rescue does anyone know if Nuytco still in the business now that it's founder has passed ?
Yes it is. But I can't tell if they are still active on the advancing technology front, seems they gone quiet since 2022. But Can-Dive which is his other company is quite active, doing mostly day to day stuff. My friend married his daughter, I have to ask him what's happening on the research front , as my friend was active in that as well. When setting up a diving display, I got to tour Phi's dive gear collection, it was amazing, he still had his first set of gear, with two old O2 tanks from a plane mounted on plywood with a home made regulator built from plans provided by the Jacques Cousteau society.
 
A bit more on the Anduril family


Producibility:

Crewed platforms, such as submarines, are prohibitively expensive and require years to produce; by contrast, the Dive-XL can be rapidly manufactured and deployed in significant numbers. Expanding U.S. and allied subsea capabilities means producing hundreds to thousands of these systems quickly and affordably.

Dive-XL’s producibility stems from a fundamentally different approach to design and manufacturing. It’s modular design is freely flooded, relying on smaller, commercial off the shelf pressure vessels to house critical systems like navigation, communications, and batteries. The core vehicle is constructed from affordable and commercially available marine grade materials such as aluminum and fiberglass. This architecture reduces complexity, lowers costs, and makes Dive-XL highly manufacturable with resilient supply chains across the globe. Production doesn’t require bespoke materials and specialized shipyard labor but can instead tap into the commercial automotive workforce, minimizing retraining time and expanding the industrial base.
Dive XL Ghost Shark

Specs undisclosed. In service.


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This video describes the 3D printing of the hull, presumably fibre glass, and suggests that an interior structure of aluminum is added after the fact. The entire structure is flooded so the internal pressure is the external pressure and the stresses are balanced permitting depths of 6000 m (yes, 6,000m or 20,000 ft - no typo).


Dive LD

Length 5.8 m
Diameter 1.2 m
Dry Weight 2720 kg
Speed 2-7 knots
Range 313 nm
Depth 6000 m

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Anduril, using the same Command and Control software (Lattice), and presumably the same 3D printing manufacturing processes is building UAVs in various scales.

CCA competitor Fury (Group 5 - 5000 lb MTOW, Mach .95, >>1000 km range)
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Cruise missile family Barracuda
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Barracuda 500 - 100 lb payload, >500 nm (air)
Barracuda 250 - 35 lb payload, 150 nm (ground), 200 nm (air)
Barracuda 100 - 40 lb payload, >120 nm (ground or air)

Loitering Attack Munitions Altius

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Altius 700 - 60 lb MTOW, >2 hours endurance
Altius 700 M - 33 lb payload
Altius 600 -27 lb MTOW, >4 hours endurance
Altius 600 M - multiple seekers and warheads

Group 3 Twin Turbojet VTOL-UAV Roadrunner

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Roadrunner - Specs unknown.
Roadrunner M - Recoverable Interceptor with HE payload, Specs unknown

Rotary Wing VTOL-UAV Ghost

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Ghost X - 55 lb MTOW, 20 lb payload, 25 km range, 75 min endurance
Ghost - 37 lb MTOW, 10 lb payload, 12 km range, 55 min endurance

Quadcopter VTOL-UAV Bolt

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Bolt - 12 lbs, >20 km, >45 min (ISR only)
Bolt M - 13-15 lbs, >20 km, >40 min (Kinetic payload)

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This full range of products appear to use a common C4 structure (Lattice) and a common manufacturing principle (3D printed fibreglass hull with inserted aluminum structure). They are all modular. And because they are uncrewed the don't have to worrying about supporting pressure differentials to sustain an STP crew environment.

Which brings to mind;

Can this same format result in semi-submersible and surface UxVs comparable to OSVs like USS Nomad/Mariner/Ranger?
If aerial devices can be manufacture cheaply and rapidly, can take of and land vertically, and perch, what does that mean for terrestrial mobility requirements? Can the mud, muck and mire that requires tracks, and the minefields, be bypassed completely by robot vertical envelopment?

For Canada

Developing and new defence industrial base - should Canada approach Anduril to build three or four specialized factories across Canada to supply the Canadian and international market. Subs in Vancouver, Missiles in Winnipeg, USVs in Halifax, UAVs in Ontario and/or Quebec?
 

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