LPC leadership race - 2025

[ArmyRick]

Likely in regards to your suggestion that Singh might help bring down the gvt. I think he now has an excuse not to do that and will keep the LPC propped up until the summer session.

The NDP has no money to run an effective campaign right now.

They own a multi-million dollar piece of property in Ottawa and they will do the same damn thing as the last two elections, put it up as colateral and pay for it in fund raises.

You have no more insight into Jagmeets intentions than anyone else. Like I said, he is proven to be exploitative, and if he smells blood, he will turn on the LPC in a heart beat. Its the political wild west right now and many people are really hoping that election don't come too soon. Probably is, kids, buckle up.

 

[ArmyRick]

The point is they actually need to survive 3 months not 6, and in a minority government situation it's upto the government to work with the opposition to pass legislation, and maintain the confidence of the house. While you are right the opposition parties ultimately decide the governments fate, it is the liberals who have to collaborate in order to chose their fate.

What happens in a minority government when the opposition smells weakness or in this case, near death? They bring it down hard. The only reason we are NOT in an election is because Trudeau prorogued.

 

[ArmyRick]

Canadian politics have certainly never seen a leadership campaign like this one.

That we agree, its the wild west of Canadian politics right now.

 

[MilEME09]

What happens in a minority government when the opposition smells weakness or in this case, near death? They bring it down hard. The only reason we are NOT in an election is because Trudeau prorogued.

You are likely right, however I do believe having a min 32 day election, followed by 30 to 60 days for a new government to get its act together when a new president is about to be sworn in and hit us with 25% tariffs would play to our disadvantage, and weaken our ability to nationally respond.

 

[Good2Golf]

Likely in regards to your suggestion that Singh might help bring down the gvt. I think he now has an excuse not to do that and will keep the LPC propped up until the summer session.

The NDP has no money to run an effective campaign right now.

The point is they actually need to survive 3 months not 6, and in a minority government situation it's upto the government to work with the opposition to pass legislation, and maintain the confidence of the house. While you are right the opposition parties ultimately decide the governments fate, it is the liberals who have to collaborate in order to chose their fate.

We’re in it until 27 October…folks can’t realistically believe that Singh won’t ’work with the new PM’ to pass the time and get his caucus past the 6-year pensionable point AND to build up some monies for some campaign ads.

What happens in a minority government when the opposition smells weakness or in this case, near death? They bring it down hard. The only reason we are NOT in an election is because Trudeau prorogued.

The opposition can’t do SFA if the NDP continues by action (*vice ‘tough’ words) to support the government.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Likely in regards to your suggestion that Singh might help bring down the gvt. I think he now has an excuse not to do that and will keep the LPC propped up until the summer session.

The NDP has no money to run an effective campaign right now.

We all knew he was just looking for a reason to keep them propped up.

Big question will be who he supports. Especially after commenting about "seeing a lot of older white men fail upwards and that's why Canada needs to change things".

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[brihard]

You have no more insight into Jagmeets intentions than anyone else. Like I said, he is proven to be exploitative, and if he smells blood, he will turn on the LPC in a heart beat. Its the political wild west right now and many people are really hoping that election don't come too soon. Probably is, kids, buckle up.

Singh will turn on the Liberals if it advantages him and the NDP. Going from “kingmaker” in a position to influence policy to “also-ran for opposition against a CPC majority” is not to his or his party’s advantage.

He doesn’t want the blood he smells to be his own party’s after getting curb stomped in the election. Right now that’s a near certainty if he pulls the trigger.

 

[Good2Golf]

Big question will be who he supports.

I don’t think he’ll ‘support’ any candidate specifically.

 

[Remius]

We’re in it until 27 October…folks can’t realistically believe that Singh won’t ’work with the new PM’ to pass the time and get his caucus past the 6-year pensionable point AND to build up some monies for some campaign ads.



The opposition can’t do SFA if the NDP continues by action (nice ‘tough’ words) to support the government.

My thoughts exactly.

He now has the excuse that Trudeau is gone and Singh will use the team Canada vs the US card to keep the LPC afloat until the summer recess.

His last letter certainly telegraphs all of that.

 

[The Bread Guy]

... Will that mudslinging carry over to the next election?

Ah, the Chretien-Martin animus factor - ask Bernie & Hilary about that shit, too, I guess It'll be interesting to see how united a front Team Red'll present once a leader's been chosen. Wouldn't be the first time internal strife (not just this party) rears its ugly head, though, following divisive leadership races.

The optimist in me thinks they'll STFU and row together in the same direction, but I also know that political types of all colours can have long memories. A lot of the back-roomers and used-to-be's are out there with more time to poke, prod, "suggest" and insinuate.

Likely in regards to your suggestion that Singh might help bring down the gvt. I think he now has an excuse not to do that and will keep the LPC propped up until the summer session.

The NDP has no money to run an effective campaign right now.

We’re in it until 27 October…folks can’t realistically believe that Singh won’t ’work with the new PM’ to pass the time and get his caucus past the 6-year pensionable point AND to build up some monies for some campaign ads.

End of December '24 #'s aren't in yet, but between January & September of last year, Blue's pulled in just under $30M in donations, followed by Red with $10.8M and Orange with $4M, so the bucks will be needed. We'll have to see just how firm he is on his "promise" (just like that "truth" thing) - in writing no less - of 20 December of last year (English - French):

 

[Remius]

They own a multi-million dollar piece of property in Ottawa and they will do the same damn thing as the last two elections, put it up as colateral and pay for it in fund raises.

Or wait until they have more funds and do the same.

You have no more insight into Jagmeets intentions than anyone else.

Thanks tips.

Like I said, he is proven to be exploitative, and if he smells blood, he will turn on the LPC in a heart beat. Its the political wild west right now and many people are really hoping that election don't come too soon. Probably is, kids, buckle up.

I don’t think so.

 

[dapaterson]

Gould is already taking swipes at other leadership contenders, because obviously it makes sense to create fractures and ill-will in an organization you aspire to lead.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/karina-gould-trump-freeland-carney-1.7434611

 

[brihard]

Gould is already taking swipes at other leadership contenders, because obviously it makes sense to create fractures and ill-will in an organization you aspire to lead.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/karina-gould-trump-freeland-carney-1.7434611

Gould’s a side show.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

Gould’s a side show.

Out of the lot, I'd take her on as leader. Least amount of baggage.

 

[Good2Golf]

I’d be interested to hear what the Government says the deficit will be?

 

[Remius]

I’d be interested to hear what the Government says the deficit will be?

All of it and everything?

 

[brihard]

I’d be interested to hear what the Government says the deficit will be?

With the tariff threat, I don’t think any predictions remain meaningful.

 

[Good2Golf]

With the tariff threat, I don’t think any predictions remain meaningful.

The actual deficit in the budget to be voted on isn’t a prediction, that is going to be a hard number. I suspect the Government is thankful to Trump in that regard and will maximize the tariff factor to jack the deficit, and paper over the previous non-Trumpian $22B predicted overage.

 

[brihard]

The actual deficit in the budget to be voted on isn’t a prediction, that is going to be a hard number. I suspect the Government is thankful to Trump in that regard and will maximize the tariff factor to jack the deficit, and paper over the previous non-Trumpian $22B predicted overage.

Oh, in that sense, yeah. But a budget is still largely projections, so my point stands. They need to go back to the drawing board on the budget methinks.

Separately: Joly is going to endorse Carney for LPC leader, and by default, PM.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-joly-liberal-leaership-1.7435527

 

[Remius]

Oh, in that sense, yeah. But a budget is still largely projections, so my point stands. They need to go back to the drawing board on the budget methinks.

Guessing that the next budget might be radically different than what they have traditionally done.

Separately: Joly is going to endorse Carney for LPC leader, and by default, PM.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-joly-liberal-leaership-1.7435527

Not shocked she went that way.