Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[dapaterson]

I would like to think they follow legal orders. If there is a legal order to attack canada i would expect them to attack. When the military starts ignoring the civilian chain of command then you have problems.

The removal and replacement of the senior JAG officers suggests a desire to shape what "legal" is.

 

[KevinB]

what we need is more AT, even locally produced M72EC Mk2 would go along way (which we are switching to the EC2 already)

Go AT-4, 84mm warhead versus 66mm
But those are in extremis weapons, you really need a stock pile of Javelins or a reasonable hand drawn facsimile thereof.

 

[JLB50]

Canada cannot hope to fight the US, it’s just math and mass.

It’s a lot more than just math and mass, unless you’re talking about traditional battlefield operations. Afghanistan and Vietnam proved otherwise, and took a lot of American and coalition lives as a result. It all depends on how much of a military-against-military war it is as opposed to one country’s military against pretty much an entire country.

 

[MilEME09]

Go AT-4, 84mm warhead versus 66mm
But those are in extremis weapons, you really need a stock pile of Javelins or a reasonable hand drawn facsimile thereof.

AT-4 CS HP upto 500mm pen, M72EC Mk1 450mm, EC mk2 300mm of pen. M72EC1 also is cheaper to produce than AT-4.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Why are you guys fighting over the number of senators? You only have to buy 60+1 to be able to do whatever you want.

 

[childs56]

I would like to think they follow legal orders. If there is a legal order to attack canada i would expect them to attack. When the military starts ignoring the civilian chain of command then you have problems.

I agree to a point.
Command at all levels need to oppose orders that are Unlawful. Especially at the Joints Chief of Staff Command.

What we are seeing is Trump saying terms like national security and such when talking about trade with Canada.

That worries me a great deal. It's called conditioning, it is a very scary practice to make otherwise civil people turn against their neighbour's,friends and allies.

 

[PuckChaser]

 

[MrWhyt]

I agree to a point.
Command at all levels need to oppose orders that are Unlawful. Especially at the Joints Chief of Staff Command.

of course. "Shoot those unarmed civillians" is an obviously illegal order, but how is "plan to invade our neighbour and activate those plans upon the president's orders" illegal?

 

[OldSolduer]

of course. "Shoot those unarmed civillians" is an obviously illegal order, but how is "plan to invade our neighbour and activate those plans upon the president's orders" illegal?

Actually only Congress can declare war but there are few escape clauses.

 

[Maxman1]

Great more Brinks trucks that have zero fucking value on a battlefield.
A commercial Ford 550 chassis isn't something to build an armored vehicle on.

How about the Iveco LMV the British adopted as the Panther? Maybe even have a trusted Canadian manufacturer like Western Star build it domestically.

 

[MilEME09]

I sense korea is offering a deal we can't refuse

https://twitter.com/x/status/1899643501815419088

 

[PrairieFella]

I sense korea is offering a deal we can't refuse

https://twitter.com/x/status/1899643501815419088

Good I hope so, subs, tanks, spgs? Bring it on.

 

[Kirkhill]

Poland - 1yr - 100,000 new volunteers to undergo military training for addition to ready reserves.

2:07PM

Poland wants 100,000 volunteers to undergo military training in 2027​

Donald Tusk has said he wants 100,000 volunteers to undergo military training in 2027.

“The most important thing for us is that every person interested can participate in such training no later than 2026. And that is a difficult task, but I know it is doable,” the Polish prime minister said ahead of a government sitting.

“In 2027 we will achieve the ability to train 100,000 volunteers per year... Apart from the professional army and beyond the Territorial Defence Force, we must de facto build an army of reservists and our actions will serve this purpose.”

Galvanised by Russia’s invasion of neighbouring Ukraine three years ago, Poland now spends a higher proportion of GDP on defence than any other Mato member.

Trump invites Zelensky back to White House

Donald Trump will invite Volodymyr Zelensky back to the White House after Ukraine agreed to a proposed ceasefire with Russia.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Polish population - 36,690,000
Canadian population - 40,100,000

Polish Military - 216,000 (2024) aiming for 250,000
Polish Territorial Defence Force - aiming for 50,000
Polish Reserves - to train 100,000 volunteers every year with the aim of training every adult male.

....

MRLS - 90 of 290 Chunmoo and 20 of 506 HIMARs as well as 104 122mm launchers
SPH - 144 of a planned fleet of 824 K9
SPM - 124 120mm turrets on WAPC
MBT - 110 of 1000 K2 and 144 of 366 Abrams and 203 Leopard 2 and 206 PT-91
IFV - 1000 tracks
IFV - 568 8x8

And many, many more.

 

[Kirkhill]

Denmark - Pop'n 5,947,000

Age - 18 for voluntary service

Conscription - Yes, for men.

Available for Military Service - 2,605,137, age 18–49 (2023)

Fit for Military Service - 2,107,794, age 18–49 (2023)

Reaching Military Age Annually - 76,970[2] (2023)

Active - 21.000 military & 4.638 civilian (2024)[3]

Reserve - 12,000 + 51,000 volunteers in the Home Guard

Deployed - 800 (2024)[4]

40,100,000 - Canada

14,210,000 Fit for Service

519,000 Reaching Military Age Annually

31,260 Military Civilians

141,500 Active Military

80,880 Reserve Military

344,000 Homeguard (Territorial Defence Force - Unpaid Volunteers)A

 

[Maxman1]

Good I hope so, subs, tanks, spgs? Bring it on.

Maybe even these to replace the Milcot and G-Wagen.

K151 Raycolt - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[daftandbarmy]

Denmark - Pop'n 5,947,000

Age - 18 for voluntary service

Conscription - Yes, for men.

Available for Military Service - 2,605,137, age 18–49 (2023)

Fit for Military Service - 2,107,794, age 18–49 (2023)

Reaching Military Age Annually - 76,970[2] (2023)

Active - 21.000 military & 4.638 civilian (2024)[3]

Reserve - 12,000 + 51,000 volunteers in the Home Guard

Deployed - 800 (2024)[4]

40,100,000 - Canada

14,210,000 Fit for Service

519,000 Reaching Military Age Annually

31,260 Military Civilians

141,500 Active Military

80,880 Reserve Military

344,000 Homeguard (Territorial Defence Force - Unpaid Volunteers)A

Meanwhile, in Denmark... the weak cork in the Baltic bottle

Denmark’s defense falls flat for NATO standards​

While the Danish military struggles to adapt to a changing security situation, recent exposés have cast doubts on whether Denmark can live up to its global role as a competent and reliable military ally.


It seemed like a proud moment for the Danish Armed Forces, after media reports of guns that don't fire and moldy barracks.

More than a dozen crewmembers eye various screens dotting the control room of the Iver Huitfeldt battleship with predatorial focus, in a video released by the Danish Armed Forces.

Outside, four armed drones — launched separately over the course of an hour by the Yemeni Houthi militant group — approach the frigate in the Red Sea on a Saturday morning in early April.

A white, oval-shaped object breezing above the dark waters is maneuvered into the center of the crosshairs on screen.

“Puff, puff, puff, puff!”

The monitor lights up white before a drone crashes into the dark ocean.

Victorious yells and applause — the routine repeats itself as the crew downs each of the four drones.

“I am proud that the ship and crew have done what they were sent out to do in a professional manner, namely, to protect free navigation,” said Flemming Lentfer, then chief of the Danish Armed Forces, in a press release shortly after the incident.

But what was crafted as a success story would soon turn catastrophic for the chief more than three years into his tenure, in a sign of the state of Denmark's armed forces.

At a news conference in early April, Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen announced the departure of Army Chief Flemming Lentfer after reports that the military's news release left out important details about the downing of Houthi drones.

Quoting an anonymous source from the institution, Danish military niche news site Olfi reported that the frigate couldn't launch its defense missile system due to a radar failure.

For 30 minutes, the Iver Huitfeldt and its crew were nearly defenseless during a combat mission. Poulsen first learned of this from Olfi weeks after the incident, with the Danish press questioning why no military leaders had briefed him about the dangerous situation.

“Other countries must look in amazement and say: What is happening?” said Jesper Korsgaard Hansen, chairman of Centralforeningen for Stampersonel, Denmark’s biggest union for military personnel, to newswire Ritzau.

“How can it be that the Danes can't figure it out when you can figure it out everywhere else?” he said about solving ongoing problems facing the armed forces.

The Danish Armed Forces are not in the best shape.

In recent years, Danish media have exposed various issues in the institution.

Mold-filled walls, toilets that can’t flush and showers without hot water haunt barracks around the country, broadcaster DR reported in January.

Danish inspection vessels have patrolled the Arctic for 15 years equipped with cannons that can't shoot due to an incomplete weapon system, freedom of information requests showed.

And NATO has criticized Denmark’s efforts to meet the military alliance's standards — especially the lack of military investment.

Denmark’s defense falls flat for NATO standards

While the Danish military struggles to adapt to a changing security situation, recent exposés have cast doubts on whether Denmark can live up to its global role as a competent and reliable military ally.

www.courthousenews.com

 

[Kirkhill]

Meanwhile, in Denmark... the weak cork in the Baltic bottle

Denmark’s defense falls flat for NATO standards​

While the Danish military struggles to adapt to a changing security situation, recent exposés have cast doubts on whether Denmark can live up to its global role as a competent and reliable military ally.


It seemed like a proud moment for the Danish Armed Forces, after media reports of guns that don't fire and moldy barracks.

More than a dozen crewmembers eye various screens dotting the control room of the Iver Huitfeldt battleship with predatorial focus, in a video released by the Danish Armed Forces.

Outside, four armed drones — launched separately over the course of an hour by the Yemeni Houthi militant group — approach the frigate in the Red Sea on a Saturday morning in early April.

A white, oval-shaped object breezing above the dark waters is maneuvered into the center of the crosshairs on screen.

“Puff, puff, puff, puff!”

The monitor lights up white before a drone crashes into the dark ocean.

Victorious yells and applause — the routine repeats itself as the crew downs each of the four drones.

“I am proud that the ship and crew have done what they were sent out to do in a professional manner, namely, to protect free navigation,” said Flemming Lentfer, then chief of the Danish Armed Forces, in a press release shortly after the incident.

But what was crafted as a success story would soon turn catastrophic for the chief more than three years into his tenure, in a sign of the state of Denmark's armed forces.

At a news conference in early April, Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen announced the departure of Army Chief Flemming Lentfer after reports that the military's news release left out important details about the downing of Houthi drones.

Quoting an anonymous source from the institution, Danish military niche news site Olfi reported that the frigate couldn't launch its defense missile system due to a radar failure.

For 30 minutes, the Iver Huitfeldt and its crew were nearly defenseless during a combat mission. Poulsen first learned of this from Olfi weeks after the incident, with the Danish press questioning why no military leaders had briefed him about the dangerous situation.

“Other countries must look in amazement and say: What is happening?” said Jesper Korsgaard Hansen, chairman of Centralforeningen for Stampersonel, Denmark’s biggest union for military personnel, to newswire Ritzau.

“How can it be that the Danes can't figure it out when you can figure it out everywhere else?” he said about solving ongoing problems facing the armed forces.

The Danish Armed Forces are not in the best shape.

In recent years, Danish media have exposed various issues in the institution.

Mold-filled walls, toilets that can’t flush and showers without hot water haunt barracks around the country, broadcaster DR reported in January.

Danish inspection vessels have patrolled the Arctic for 15 years equipped with cannons that can't shoot due to an incomplete weapon system, freedom of information requests showed.

And NATO has criticized Denmark’s efforts to meet the military alliance's standards — especially the lack of military investment.

Denmark’s defense falls flat for NATO standards

While the Danish military struggles to adapt to a changing security situation, recent exposés have cast doubts on whether Denmark can live up to its global role as a competent and reliable military ally.

www.courthousenews.com

And how are the professionals doing?

Armed Forces are not ready to fight or deter future aggression, Healey warns

The Defence Secretary praises the military for being highly skilled, but warns it must become more effective if the UK has to go to war.

www.forcesnews.com

....

Seems to be a lot of that going around