HMCS Iroquois' woes (merged)

[Nfld Sapper]

CTV.ca News Staff

A Sea King helicopter has crashed onto the deck of HMCS Iroquois. Two people have been injured, but the extent of those injuries is not yet known.

A spokesman for the Prime Minister‘s Office said the destroyer was damaged and will be returning to port.

The crash happened as the chopper was attempting to take off from the Canadian Forces ship around 9:30 a.m. ET. The helicopter lifted, developed problems in the air and attempted to land when it crashed and rolled on the deck.

The two injured were one of the Sea King‘s four crew members, and a firefighter on the deck. Family members were advised of the injuries.

An investigation is under way.

Iroquois just left Halifax Monday, headed for the Persian Gulf to become the main command ship for the allied support fleet in the gulf of Oman.

The 260 sailors aboard were to be stationed in the Gulf for six months as part of Canada‘s contribution to the war on terror, intercepting ships, enforcing sanctions against Iraq and escorting allied vessels.

Canada‘s fleet of 29 Sea Kings, dating from the 1960s, have suffered from numerous maintenance problems that have forced several emergency landings in recent years.

More to come...

 

[Gunnar]

Interesting that it is the PM‘s office that is first to comment on the crash, not the MND or anyone farther down the chain of command. It‘s almost as if the PM wants to head off criticism of the Sea Kings...

 

[The Bread Guy]

Just in on MERX.....
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/82651/post-804187.html#msg804187

....The Department of National Defence has a requirement for a refit of HMCS IROQUOIS, an IROQUOIS Class Destroyer based in Halifax, Nova Scotia. It is anticipated that the refit work will commence April, 2010 with a completion date of December, 2010....

 

[Harry Potter]

Only nine months?  I was under the impression that the refit of a ship took a lot longer than that.  Dry dock and all.  Learn something everyday. 

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Think it might also depend on the type of refit.

EDITED TO ADD

Seems like alot of work to be done in 9 months IMHO

The Vessel will be dry docked with the sonar dome fitted.   
Detailed information will be forthcoming with the issue of the
Crown's Invitation To Tender documentation.
An outline of the general objectives and major requirements for
the Refit Project are as follows.
   
Significant dry docking work including:
Underwater valves and piping systems/survey/repairs,
Steering and propulsion machinery system surveys/repairs.
Painting and preservation of underwater hull, tanks, bilges,
cofferdams, voids etc,

Comprehensive maintenance/repairs to various ship's machinery
and systems:
HP/LP air systems;
Fuel oil filling and transfer system;
Electrical systems; and
Deck equipment.

Major Painting and preservation program for the following areas:
Hull above and below the waterline
Superstructure
Exterior decks
Accommodation and machinery spaces and bilges.

Extensive modifications/installations to the following:
Secure LAN system;
Torpedo system;
Main Machinery system;
Fire Fighting Protection equipment;
Boarding Ladder Upgrade;
Navigational Distribution system and
Hull Technician Support Tools.

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Considering a lot of it is done consecutively its no more or no less then usual.

 

[PingTech]

...we're also part of the FELEX upgrade, with the new NavDDS replacing CCS (exciting news for NET(A)'s!) as it is on ATHAB.  Either way, long or short, this time in refit is necessary and well overdue, IMHO.

280 Ladies! 

 

[Radar114]

Whats a NavDDS?

 

[JBoyd]

Whats a NavDDS?

Navigation Data Distribution System

I read something regarding this and the first ship trials aboard the HMCS Athabaskan in the winter.

http://www.deagel.com/news/Canadian-Destroyer-Conducts-First-Ship-Trials-with-NavDDS-System_n000005227.aspx


EDITed to fix term (thanks Occam )

 

[Occam]

Navigation and Data Distribution System

I read something regarding this and the first ship trials aboard the HMCS Athabaskan in the winter.

http://www.deagel.com/news/Canadian-Destroyer-Conducts-First-Ship-Trials-with-NavDDS-System_n000005227.aspx

Minor correction there.

 

[CallOfDuty]

  My god...how old is the Iroquois now??

 

[geo]

  My god...how old is the Iroquois now??

Built in '70 and commissioned in '72
Doesn't matter how old she is .... nothing coming down the pipes to replace em...

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Built in '70 and commissioned in '72
Doesn't matter how old she is .... nothing coming down the pipes to replace em...

Yet...

 

[Radar114]

OK, how is the NavDDS going to replace a CCS?  I still prefer parts of the 280 CCS over the 330 CCS.  Maybe they could use better space in the new CCS as opposed to all that empty area around the scope.

 

[PingTech]

OK, how is the NavDDS going to replace a CCS?  I still prefer parts of the 280 CCS over the 330 CCS.  Maybe they could use better space in the new CCS as opposed to all that empty area around the scope.

The bus system that CCS uses was replaced with the INDB (Inertial Navigation Data Bus) on the 280's - much more reliable and easy to maintain - which is now being replaced by the NDDS (Navigation Data Distribution System) - an even BETTER, faster, up-to-date system bringing a state of the art sensor distribution system to CCS end users.  We will be saving ourselves a bit of weight and space with NDDS coming in, and along with the other major work being done, we'll be that much more efficient, reliable, and modern, as a command platform should be.

At the risk of sounding like a total geek, I'm really excited about this refit period and can't wait to trial our new equipment - I'm one of the 2 East coasters who recently finished the first NDDS course (2 on the West) and we are thrilled with this gear and its performance..we know our fellow techs will enjoy this system too.

 

[Occam]

OK, how is the NavDDS going to replace a CCS?  I still prefer parts of the 280 CCS over the 330 CCS.  Maybe they could use better space in the new CCS as opposed to all that empty area around the scope.

I think what she's trying to say is that NavDDS is going to replace the existing Nav interface to CCS 280.  It's a distribution system, it's not a Command and Control System.

 

[Occam]

The bus system that CCS uses was replaced with the INDB (Inertial Navigation Data Bus) on the 280's - much more reliable and easy to maintain - which is now being replaced by the NDDS (Navigation Data Distribution System) - an even BETTER, faster, up-to-date system bringing a state of the art sensor distribution system to CCS end users.  We will be saving ourselves a bit of weight and space with NDDS coming in, and along with the other major work being done, we'll be that much more efficient, reliable, and modern, as a command platform should be.

Did you happen to eat a Sperry Marine brochure?  ;D

 

[PingTech]

Did you happen to eat a Sperry Marine brochure?  ;D

LMFAO...they're quite tasty when you add the Navy's Patented 'Flavour-B-Gone'...

 

[NCRCrow]

This is getting ridiculous, because I will get posted there for my fourth tour

Once a 280 Lady..well you know the rest

 

[PingTech]

This is getting ridiculous, because I will get posted there for my fourth tour

Once a 280 Lady..well you know the rest

The 280's sort of remind me of a Cat's Cradle...never-ending manoeuvering in an attempt to get out, and then somehow you end up back where you started...*shrug*...I guess I'll see you onboard, HFXCrow!