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As always, someone has to be a horrible warning.
Freedom Convoy protests [Split from All things 2019-nCoV]
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In the news.
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Majority of Canadians view a politician's open support of trucker protest as negative: survey
Most Canadians say they would hold a negative view of a politician who openly supported the trucker protest that took place in Ottawa earlier this year, a new survey from Nanos Research shows.
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Well d'uh, because it turned into a 100% shitshow, I'm sure not what most thought they were signing up for.In the news.
Majority of Canadians view a politician's open support of trucker protest as negative: survey
Most Canadians say they would hold a negative view of a politician who openly supported the trucker protest that took place in Ottawa earlier this year, a new survey from Nanos Research shows.
It's like now saying you supported the building of the Olympic Stadium in Montreal all those years ago. Yet folks at the time couldn't wait to be some part of it....
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Coutts blockaders collected firearms to use against police, RCMP documents allege | Globalnews.ca
The RCMP alleged in search warrant applications that anti-vaccine mandate demonstrators in Coutts, Alta., were 'arming themselves for a standoff against police.'
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Oh good, you're back. Long time, no sunshiny news.Coutts blockaders collected firearms to use against police, RCMP documents allege | Globalnews.ca
The RCMP alleged in search warrant applications that anti-vaccine mandate demonstrators in Coutts, Alta., were 'arming themselves for a standoff against police.'
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If you're referring to the convoy stalwarts, most bought into the idea that they were the tip of a spear 1000's of big rigs and hundreds of thousands of Canadian's long, and this awesome display of Canadian solidarity would trigger the near immediate reversal of all mandates and the dissolution of the duly elected government.
Very much 100% a shitshow that the majority of Canadians disapprove of, just a more grandiose one than the petulant display we got.
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Yup, they were talking a big game about tens of thousands of rigs. When push actually came to shove, maybe a few dozen rigs didn’t turn around and run away, and had to be towed. The crowd didn’t have much fight in them either; any resolve they had broke by midday on the Saturday. A bunch of people thought they were going to be part of something bigger and cooler and a lot less stupid than what they actually found themselves in.
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I distinctly remember the OPP count at Thunder Bay being dismissed as Fake News, with claims of a convoy so big that if it were real the tail would still have been in Saskatchewan when the head got to Ottawa.
Bigger, cooler, and a whole lot more sedition-y.
For those of you saying the convoy Did nothing definitely have your head in the sand. The convoy idea started out West in Vancouver by the Truck Drivers out there who after years of attacks on their way of life were done.
In particular they are the drivers who run the fuel from Washington state to the Vancouver International Airport, the ones who pickup and deliver the truck loads of goods we require for living.
After years of more restricting rules, with no give on the requirements to get the job done. The last COVID Border restriction was the final straw. Many of those drivers were point to point. They would drive across the border, load fuel at the terminal and drive back and unload fuel at the Airport. Then return. They had no person to person contact and had been doing this critical job through out covid. Then they were told to get the vaccine or else they could not deliver the fuel and do their jobs they had been doing previously.
The truck drivers at the Loading docks were being screwed by the Gov, Shippers and the dock workers. They would have to be at the dock for a certain time, they would wait upwards of 2-3hrs to load. Then deliver that load and get at least two more loads for the day and or drive to Calgary to unload. By the time they loaded, tarped etc they would not have enough time as per their log books to make the requirements. Then they told those driver they had to have the covid shot so they could do the same job they had been doing. Again they would not leave their trucks except to secure their loads.
We also got to see the gross misuse of powers by not only the federal government but also by the Ottawa City council in particular the Police Committee members applying direct pressure to the Chief of Police to get things to tun violent.
The Blue collar side of Canada stood up and raised more money in two weeks then the liberals and NDP do their entire campaign legally. Then they did it again a few weeks later. It scared the crap out of the Federal Government as they have not had the deal with the Blue Collar workers standing up across the country together.
As a few of my friends said that attended from each coast. They never though they would see Eastern Canada support Western Canada and vice versa, in particular the Support they seen going through Quebec.
Then those Truck Drivers asked for support from across the country. They got that and then some.
As for those few people at the Coutts border threating violence, they were under surveillance for some time before all this protest stuff came out. The Police just did not have enough evidence to arrest them prior. They were trying to form a militia style group. Many wanted nothing to do with them or their cause.
This court case will be interesting as not information has been released. By the time it is heard there will be 14 other major issues to contend with.
In particular they are the drivers who run the fuel from Washington state to the Vancouver International Airport, the ones who pickup and deliver the truck loads of goods we require for living.
After years of more restricting rules, with no give on the requirements to get the job done. The last COVID Border restriction was the final straw. Many of those drivers were point to point. They would drive across the border, load fuel at the terminal and drive back and unload fuel at the Airport. Then return. They had no person to person contact and had been doing this critical job through out covid. Then they were told to get the vaccine or else they could not deliver the fuel and do their jobs they had been doing previously.
The truck drivers at the Loading docks were being screwed by the Gov, Shippers and the dock workers. They would have to be at the dock for a certain time, they would wait upwards of 2-3hrs to load. Then deliver that load and get at least two more loads for the day and or drive to Calgary to unload. By the time they loaded, tarped etc they would not have enough time as per their log books to make the requirements. Then they told those driver they had to have the covid shot so they could do the same job they had been doing. Again they would not leave their trucks except to secure their loads.
We also got to see the gross misuse of powers by not only the federal government but also by the Ottawa City council in particular the Police Committee members applying direct pressure to the Chief of Police to get things to tun violent.
The Blue collar side of Canada stood up and raised more money in two weeks then the liberals and NDP do their entire campaign legally. Then they did it again a few weeks later. It scared the crap out of the Federal Government as they have not had the deal with the Blue Collar workers standing up across the country together.
As a few of my friends said that attended from each coast. They never though they would see Eastern Canada support Western Canada and vice versa, in particular the Support they seen going through Quebec.
Then those Truck Drivers asked for support from across the country. They got that and then some.
As for those few people at the Coutts border threating violence, they were under surveillance for some time before all this protest stuff came out. The Police just did not have enough evidence to arrest them prior. They were trying to form a militia style group. Many wanted nothing to do with them or their cause.
This court case will be interesting as not information has been released. By the time it is heard there will be 14 other major issues to contend with.
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@childs56 What exactly did it actually achieve? The mandates are slowly being rolled back, which they would have anyway. The things they were protesting in Ottawa were provincial/municipal matters, or also imposed by foreign governments as part of their own border control.
I don't really see how the convoy would have impacted any of the things you are talking about.
Most people were really appreciative of truckers and other critical workers who had to keep doing things in person, but that doesn't change the fact that the 5% that participated in the convoy are still largely seen as bellends, and Balcony Ricky was pretty accurate.
I don't really see how the convoy would have impacted any of the things you are talking about.
Most people were really appreciative of truckers and other critical workers who had to keep doing things in person, but that doesn't change the fact that the 5% that participated in the convoy are still largely seen as bellends, and Balcony Ricky was pretty accurate.
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Source on that?
This is the one with Dianne Deans tried to pressure the Ottawa Police Chief to push the EMA. When he stated clearly it was not needed. This video is cut short and the orignal one is not to be found. Diane Deans was forced off the board shortly after this meeting, after two Police Chiefs resigned over this matter.
This was an actual attack where critical infrastructure was affected, Police Officers were directly attacked, with booby traps set up on the road way into the camp. Yet nothing of any significance was mentioned and the PM was mute on the subject.
Millions in damage after attack on Coastal GasLink work site, RCMP say
Police near an under-construction natural gas pipeline in northern B.C. are investigating after what they say was a violent attack by roughly 20 people overnight.
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This is the one with Dianne Deans tried to pressure the Ottawa Police Chief to push the EMA. When he stated clearly it was not needed. This video is cut short and the orignal one is not to be found. Diane Deans was forced off the board shortly after this meeting, after two Police Chiefs resigned over this matter.
This was an actual attack where critical infrastructure was affected, Police Officers were directly attacked, with booby traps set up on the road way into the camp. Yet nothing of any significance was mentioned and the PM was mute on the subject.
Millions in damage after attack on Coastal GasLink work site, RCMP say
Police near an under-construction natural gas pipeline in northern B.C. are investigating after what they say was a violent attack by roughly 20 people overnight.
People should certainly have questions.
You are mixing a few things up.This is the one with Dianne Deans tried to pressure the Ottawa Police Chief to push the EMA. When he stated clearly it was not needed. This video is cut short and the orignal one is not to be found. Diane Deans was forced off the board shortly after this meeting, after two Police Chiefs resigned over this matter.
This was an actual attack where critical infrastructure was affected, Police Officers were directly attacked, with booby traps set up on the road way into the camp. Yet nothing of any significance was mentioned and the PM was mute on the subject.
Millions in damage after attack on Coastal GasLink work site, RCMP say
Police near an under-construction natural gas pipeline in northern B.C. are investigating after what they say was a violent attack by roughly 20 people overnight.
Only one Police chief resigned over the handling of the trucker convoy.
The other was disinclined to accept the position after Deans unilaterally made a decision to appoint a chief with little to no consultation or vetting. She was forced off the board after that issue caused a stir.
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For additional context Councillor Deans has been butting heads with the 'Watson Group' for a long time, and was more the victim of a dysfunctional Ottawa city council infighting.
She previously called out Watson and co for trying to push through the LRT contract, asking if it had met the technical requirements (it didn't) and wanting to see the scoring results (which they didn't get) before voting on a $2B+ contract.
In this case she was the only one calling on the Police Chief to do something more than nothing.
She was replaced by a new councilor with zero experience, who then backdoor hired a replacement police chief, who then had to have that hiring canceled because they backdoored it.
Ottawa council is a mess and glad to see Watson go; the LRT alone will be a stinking albatross for a while, and even if they put SNC in default, we are basically stuck with a multi billion dollar system that isn't actually fit for Ottawa climate.
She previously called out Watson and co for trying to push through the LRT contract, asking if it had met the technical requirements (it didn't) and wanting to see the scoring results (which they didn't get) before voting on a $2B+ contract.
In this case she was the only one calling on the Police Chief to do something more than nothing.
She was replaced by a new councilor with zero experience, who then backdoor hired a replacement police chief, who then had to have that hiring canceled because they backdoored it.
Ottawa council is a mess and glad to see Watson go; the LRT alone will be a stinking albatross for a while, and even if they put SNC in default, we are basically stuck with a multi billion dollar system that isn't actually fit for Ottawa climate.
Neither one of them officially resigned over the Convoy.
But both of their quick departures at the time after the special meetings makes it very suspect.
^ not sure what any of that has to do with her trying to influence and escalate the use of Force by the Police Chief. Which was outside of her and the committees powers to do.
"In this case she was the only one calling on the Police Chief to do something more than nothing." She was actually trying to escalate the use of force which is outside of her and the committees agenda.
The Convoy up until this point was following the rules stated. (they over stayed their welcome) They were asked to move to a park, once there they were forced from there. The Police Chief had no intentions of getting physical on this protest thus escalating the situation. Many Liberal/NDP supporters could not believe that this convoy of bad people were acting peacefully. Thus they wanted to force the violence side of things.
There are multiple instances of NDP/Liberal supporters trying to antagonize the initial protest trying to incite violence. Guess what the last thing a person wants is their $200,000 truck smashed up, or their $600,000 picker truck wrecked.
it has to do with him pointing out the political situation that led to her being removed from that committee and the reasons why.
You seem to be distorting what actually happened.
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It's popular to make jokes about the O-Train and I agree it has shortfalls, but ultimately the track system is the most critical part of railway infrastructure and the outgoing administration put a plan in place that is getting it done.
The city can fix and weatherize the trains / wheels / doors with time. Ottawa is much further ahead now than if this project wasn't started. Jokes and issues aside, the O-Train is a solid upgrade in progress for the city and the track system is being completed.
If you compare Ottawa to other Canadian cities like Toronto, Toronto is triple the size and the subway only has only two lines, and the trolley bus system isn't good either and worse than the OC Transpo street buses. Ottawa is going to continue to be much better to commute than Toronto. The map for the completed O-Train track systems is much more impressive and logical.
The O-Train completion and likely building of a new hockey arena for the Ottawa Senators at the LeBreton flats downtown will be major upgrades to a city that is already very appealing.
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Not to disagree, or agree, as I am not very familiar with Ottawa transit.
Incidentally, Toronto has not run trolley buses in 30 years.
Regarding the rail network,
Line 1 Yonge–University
Line 2 Bloor–Danforth
Line 3 Scarborough
Line 4 Sheppard
Line 5 Eglinton
Line 6 Finch West
Again, not to compare Toronto ridership to Ottawa, because I am not familiar with their system, but TTC did 2.7 million rides in a single day, prior to Covid.
Having said that. there is certainly a long overdue need for transit improvement.
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