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How President Ma will act next in this situation should be the next question.

EDITORIAL: No time for weakness on the Spratlys
Tuesday, Jul 07, 2009, Page 8

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2009/07/07/2003448078

Another sign that Taiwanese concessions are not being met with goodwill by Beijing is the series of incidents involving Taiwanese fishermen and Chinese vessels in the contested Spratly Islands.

The chain, which is believed to have rich oil and gas deposits and high fisheries value and is claimed by Taiwan, China, Vietnam, Malaysia and the Philippines, is seen by many military analysts as a potential flashpoint. Tensions were exacerbated in March when Manila signed a law laying claim to part of the Spratlys and Scarborough Shoal, which prompted a heated response from Beijing.

The last time the Chinese navy engaged in battle over the Spratlys was in 1996, when its vessels engaged in a brief shootout with a Philippine gunboat. Since then, China has engaged in an ambitious naval modernization plan and announced in March that it could convert navy ships into patrol vessels to extend its reach over the Spratlys.

With this modernization and Beijing’s growing self-confidence, the Philippines has observed — and at times been alarmed by — a growing presence of Chinese vessels patrolling the area. As it flexes its muscles, China has also bullied fishermen from other countries in the area, including Taiwanese. This prompted Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) Legislator Pan Meng-an (潘孟安) over the weekend to call on President Ma Ying-jeou (馬英九) to protect the rights — and given the nature of the job, the lives — of Taiwanese fishermen operating in those waters.

The latest incident occurred last week, when a Chinese “sea exploration” boat harassed a Pingtung fishing boat. Chinese fishing boats were observed nearby.

So far, the Ma administration has failed to support Taiwanese fishermen and the nation’s claims over the Spratlys, ostensibly to avoid offending Beijing as it strives to improve cross-strait relations. Underscoring that point was his administration suspending a plan initiated by the former DPP government allocating NT$28 billion (US$850 million) to strengthen the Coast Guard’s presence in the area.

While it would be reckless to risk derailing a cross-strait agenda over the Spratlys, Taiwan must not be seen by Beijing to be capitulating, especially when the livelihood of Taiwanese fishermen is at stake. As in everything else, Taiwan must negotiate from a position of strength, and if this means making its presence felt in the Spratlys, then so be it.

Beyond this, if Taipei is as pragmatic as Ma would like us to think, it should be proactive in proposing mechanisms to avoid future conflict over the island chain. One way to achieve this would be to assemble all parties involved, or even create a multilateral conflict-resolution mechanism, with Taiwan as a full member. This would be a means for Ma to appease his detractors by showing that he intends to uphold the nation’s dignity, while seeking ways to defuse tensions with China and its neighbors.

To this end, the Taiwanese government could propose a summit in Taipei — or Pingtung, for that matter — inviting the foreign ministers, navy officials and fisheries organizations from all the countries involved in the dispute. Doing so would force China to prove, by participating, that it means what it says when it claims its rise is a peaceful one.

Should the Ma government fail to act as a responsible stakeholder on so minor a problem as the Spratly Islands, the rest of the world would be justified in doubting that it would deal any more peacefully on more serious matters.
 
And the protests and unrest continue.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090707/ap_on_re_as/as_china_protest

Fresh protest erupts in China's Xinjiang region
        William Foreman, Associated Press Writer – 38 mins ago
URUMQI, China – Ethnic Uighurs scuffled with armed police Tuesday in a fresh protest in the western Chinese region of Xinjiang, where at least 156 people have been killed and more than 1,400 people arrested in the worst ethnic violence there in decades.

Most of the group of about 200 Uighurs were women protesting the arrests of their husbands in the massive crackdown on members of the Muslim minority by Chinese authorities since the violence was sparked Sunday in the Xinjiang provincial capital.

The incident played out in front of reporters who were being taken around Urumqi to see the aftermath of Sunday's riots, when hundreds of vehicles and shops were attacked.

The women, wearing ornate flowered headscarves, blocked a road. Some screamed that their husbands and children had been arrested. Riot police were at one end of the road and paramilitary police were at the other.

One woman said her husband was taken away and she would rather die than live without him.

As they marched down the street, paramilitary police in green camouflage fatigues with sticks marched toward them and pushed the crowd back. A woman fell. The brief scuffle ended when the police retreated. Police in black uniforms with assault rifles and tear gas guns took up positions on the other side of the crowd.

The women, however, stayed in the street, pumping their fists in the air and wailing. Meanwhile, police tried to weed the men out of the crowd, herding them down a side street. Two boys ran out of a side alley, and a policeman barked at them, "Go home" and grabbed one around the neck, pushing him.

The 90-minute protest ended when the women walked back into a market area without any resistance.


(...)

Mobile phone service and the social networking site Twitter have been blocked, and Internet links also were cut or slowed down.

A nonviolent protest by 200 people Monday was broken up in a second city, Kashgar, and the official Xinhua News Agency said police had evidence that demonstrators were trying to organize more unrest in Kashgar, Yili and Aksu.

It said police had raided several groups plotting unrest in Dawan township in Urumqi, as well as at a former race course that is home to a transient population.

(...)

Many Uighurs (pronounced WEE-gers) haven't been wooed by the rapid economic development. Some want independence, while others feel they're being marginalized in their homeland. The Han — China's ethnic majority — have been flooding into Xinjiang as the region becomes more developed.

The government often says the Uighurs should be grateful for the roads, railways, schools, hospitals and oil fields it has been building in Xinjiang, a region known for scorching deserts and snowy mountain ranges.

A similar situation exists in Tibet, where a violent protest last year left many Tibetan communities living under clamped-down security ever since.

(...)

Uighurs frequently compare their persecution to that imposed on Tibet, but say their cause is not as well known because they lack a Dalai Lama to publicize their cause.


(...)
 
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A woman on a crutch argues with a Chinese soldier in front of an armoured personnel carrier and soldiers wearing riot gear as a crowd of angry locals confront security forces on a street in the city of Urumqi in China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region July 7, 2009. Hundreds of Uighur protesters clashed with riot police in the capital of China's Muslim region of Xinjiang on Tuesday, two days after ethnic unrest left 156 dead and more than 800 injured. REUTERS/David Gray (CHINA CONFLICT MILITARY POLITICS RELIGION)

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Chinese riot police get into position as Uighur protesters gather during a demonstration in Urumqi, Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region July 7, 2009. Uighur protesters clashed with Chinese riot police in the capital of China's Muslim region of Xinjiang on Tuesday, two days after ethnic violence broke out leaving 156 people dead and more than 800 injured. REUTERS/Nir Elias (CHINA CONFLICT)

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Armed Chinese policemen march towards a group of local women during a confrontation along a street in the city of Urumqi, in China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region July 7, 2009. Hundreds of Uighurs protesting against the arrest of relatives clashed with police in the capital of China's Muslim region of Xinjiang on Tuesday two days after ethnic unrest left 156 dead and 1,080 wounded.
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A local woman on a crutch shouts at Chinese armoured personal carriers and soldiers wearing riot gear as a crowd of angry locals confront security forces on a street in the city of Urumqi in China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region July 7, 2009. China said a riot that shook the capital of the western Xinjiang region on Sunday killed 140 people and the government called the ethnic unrest a plot against its power, signalling a security crackdown. REUTERS/David Gray (CHINA CONFLICT MILITARY POLITICS)

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A Chinese police officer holds his gun near a demonstration by Uighur residents in Urumqi, Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region July 7, 2009. Uighur protesters clashed with Chinese riot police in the capital of China's Muslim region of Xinjiang on Tuesday, two days after ethnic violence broke out leaving 156 people dead and more than 800 injured. REUTERS/ Nir Elias (CHINA CONFLICT POLITICS)

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Chinese soldiers wearing riot gear run towards a crowd of angry locals during a confrontation on a street in the city of Urumqi in China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region July 7, 2009. Hundreds of Uighur protesters clashed with riot police in the capital of China's Muslim region of Xinjiang on Tuesday, two days after ethnic unrest left 156 dead and more than 800 injured. REUTERS/David Gray (CHINA CONFLICT MILITARY POLITICS RELIGION)
 
Apparently the riots and unrest in Xinjiang seem serious enough to force PRC Pres. Hu to go home early.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/090708/world/international_us_china_xinjiang

China's Hu skips G8 to deal with Xinjiang riots
1 hour, 41 minutes ago

By Chris Buckley


URUMQI, China (Reuters) - Chinese President Hu Jintao abandoned plans to attend a G8 summit in Italy on Wednesday, returning home early to deal with ethnic violence that has left at least 156 dead in China's northwestern region of Xinjiang.


The Chinese Foreign Ministry said on its website that Hu had left for China "due to the situation" in energy-rich Xinjiang, which borders central Asia, where 1,080 were people have been injured and 1,434 arrested in unrest between Han Chinese and Muslim Uighurs since Sunday.


State Councillor Dai Bingguo will attend the G8 summit in Hu's place, the ministry added.



The summit was due to open in the central Italian city of L'Aquila later on Wednesday and Hu had been scheduled to join the talks on Thursday. He arrived in Italy on Sunday and had visited Florence on Tuesday.


Urumqi, Xinjiang's regional capital, woke up on Wednesday after an overnight curfew that authorities imposed after thousands of Han Chinese stormed through its streets demanding redress and sometimes extracting bloody vengeance for Sunday's violence.


The city was quiet, except for soldiers shouting in unison as they went about their morning exercises.


Squads of anti-riot police blocked off main streets, while armored personnel carriers cruised back and forth.


Late on Tuesday, mobs of Han Chinese wielding clubs, metal bars, cleavers and axes had melted away, but many said Sunday's killings had left a lasting stain of anger.


Li Yufang, a Han who owns a clothes store in Urumqi, said he was still outraged by what had happened over the weekend, and wanted to protest again, although he admitted it was unlikely amid the heavy presence of troops.


"I couldn't sleep last night I was so angry," he said, clutching a club and what appeared to be a carving knife wrapped in a black plastic bag.


"Uighurs are spoiled like pandas. When they steal, rob, rape or kill, they can get away with it. If we Han did the same thing, we'd be executed," Li added, as a friend standing next to him nodded in agreement.


ETHNIC TENSIONS


On the other side of Urumqi's now tensely divided neighborhoods, Uighurs protested on Tuesday, defying rows of anti-riot police and telling reporters that their husbands, brothers and sons had been taken away in indiscriminate arrests.


Xinjiang has long been a tightly controlled hotbed of ethnic tensions, fostered by an economic gap between many Uighurs and Han Chinese, government controls on religion and culture and an influx of Han migrants who now are the majority in most key cities, including Urumqi.


But controlling the torrid anger on both sides of the region's ethnic divide will now make controlling Xinjiang, with its gas reserves and trade and energy ties to central Asia, all the more testing for the ruling Communist Party.


The government has sought to bridge that divide by blaming the Sunday killings on exiled Uighurs seeking independence for their homeland, especially Rebiya Kadeer, a businesswoman and activist now living in exile in the United States.



Kadeer, writing in the Asian Wall Street Journal on Wednesday, condemned the violence on both sides, and again denied being the cause of the unrest.

"Years of Chinese repression of Uighurs topped by a confirmation that Chinese officials have no interest in observing the rule of law when Uighurs are concerned is the cause of the current Uighur discontent," she wrote.

The Communist Party boss of Xinjiang, Wang Lequan, sought to press forward that effort in a speech broadcast on regional TV and handed out as a leaflet to Urumqi residents late on Tuesday.

"This was a massive conspiracy by hostile forces at home and abroad, and their goal was precisely to sabotage ethnic unity and provoke ethnic antagonism," said Wang.

"Point the spear toward hostile forces at home and abroad, toward the criminals who took part in attacking, smashing and looting, and by no means point it toward our own ethnic brothers," he said, referring to Uighurs.

Uighurs, a Turkic people who are largely Muslim and share linguistic and cultural bonds with Central Asia, make up almost half of Xinjiang's 20 million people. The population of Urumqi, which lies around 3,300 km (2,000 miles) west of Beijing, is mostly Han.

(Additional reporting by Ben Blanchard in Shanghai and Benjamin Kang Lim in Beijing; Editing by David Fox)
 
Based on the sample of those I have met, I would suggest that most Chinese people are irreligious; based on my reading of history I would suggest that trend – away from formal, organized religion – is long standing but got a big boost when Sun Yat-sen et al* overthrew the, weak, corrupt Qing dynasty in 1911. Sun was, mainly, a Christian but one who, like many Chinese Christians, still observed old folk customs.

Broadly, I think, the Chinese, like most irreligious people, are tolerant. Tolerance, I remind readers, does not mean that one supports those beliefs or actions which (s)he tolerates; rather it means that one does not support the suppression of beliefs or actions one finds, at least, distasteful. But there are always limits to tolerance and I suspect the Uyghurs in Xinjiang may have pressed too hard.

In my opinion most Chinese are conservatives – not the idiotic Rush Limbaughesque American bastardizers of that good term, but real, rock ribbed conservatives with, real, rock solid, family and social values grounded in Confucianism, not Kristol and Buckley. In my mind, real liberals are believers in protecting the rights of the sovereign individual against the depredations of all collectives: church, state, neighbours and so on, while real conservatives value social harmony.

Many people think Islam is a conservative belief system but that is not true because Islam, like Christianity, posits that it can, indeed should or even must impose social harmony by requiring that all either adopt Islam or, at least, voluntarily suppress their own, non-Islamic beliefs systems. That position is, as it must be, morally unacceptable to both real liberals and real conservatives.

Unacceptable beliefs and actions, for some (many? most?) Chinese, include: subordination of women;† vandalism against Buddhist, Confucian and Daoist shrines and temples;** and religious schools. (Although many Asian Muslims eschew the Arab/Persian cultural values that seek to make e.g. subordination of women into a central tenet of Islam‡ there is intense pressure from the Islamic centre to make Islam into an essentially Arab-Persian belief system to be embraced by all.)

Both the Uyghurs and the Tibetans are separatists but there is a huge difference in how China deals with the two Autonomous Regions. China appears intent on winning over Tibetans by buying their loyalty with public works projects and job, Jobs, JOBS! (Shades of Mulroney/Chrétien!) In Xinjiang, on the other hand, there can be no doubt that the Chinese aim is, quite simply, to overwhelm the Muslim Uyghurs by pouring millions and millions of Han Chinese into the region until the Uyghurs are a relatively insignificant minority. I’m guessing that there is a long term plan to encourage Uyghurs to migrate to Central and Western China, further diluting their socio-political power.

Thus, I have, partially, changed m mind. I have said, again and again, that Islam is not the enemy. I need to change that. Islam is not our (the US led West’s) enemy but it is China’s enemy and, for more complex reasons, India’s, too. Not because it is a ‘foreign’ religion, but because it will not (cannot?) adapt itself to China’s conservative values. In a conservative society, where social harmony is the primary ”good,” those who threaten harmony are “bad” and worthy of being an enemy.


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* Sun was not even in China at the time of the Wuchang Uprising; he returned from exile in the USA and was elected as China’s first president by a hastily convened national congress.
† China is, probably, one of the most ‘equal’ societies on earth; it (equality of output) was imposed by Mao but embraced by Chinese – women, especially.
** Which has happened, in China, in the 21st century. These are, probably, classic insurgent tactics aimed at provoking a disproportionate response from the established authorities.
Paternalism is a tenet of Islam – as it is of Christianity and Judaism – but such things as burkas and hijabs are not required to achieve the Muslim ideal of female modesty; they are Arab-Persian cultural artifacts.
 
The Army is being sent in to help stop the rioting.The center surely wants to prevent a widespread rebellion and will do whatever is necessary to restore order.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530561,00.html?test=latestnews

China's president cut short a G8 summit trip to hurry home Wednesday after ethnic tensions soared in Xinjiang territory, with sobbing Muslim women scuffling with riot police and Chinese men with steel pipes and meat cleavers rampaging through the streets.

The new violence in Xinjiang's capital erupted Tuesday only a few hours after the city's top officials told reporters the streets in Urumqi were returning to normal following a riot that killed 156 people Sunday. The officials said more than 1,000 suspects had been rounded up since the spasm of attacks by Muslim Uighurs against Han Chinese, the ethnic majority.

In a rare move, President Hu Jintao cut short a trip to Italy to take part in a Group of Eight meeting later Wednesday to travel home to deal with the violence, the Foreign Ministry said on its Web site.

In Tuesday's chaos, hundreds of young Han men seeking revenge began gathering on sidewalks with kitchen knives, clubs, shovels and wooden poles. They spent most of the afternoon marching through the streets, smashing windows of Muslim restaurants and trying to push past police cordons protecting minority neighborhoods. Riot police successfully fought them back with volleys of tear gas and a massive show of force.


Urumqi had a heavy security presence Wednesday morning after an overnight curfew in the city of 2.3 million was lifted. Two helicopters flew over the city watching the scene.

Uighurs have said this week's rioting was triggered by the June 25 deaths of Uighur factory workers killed in a brawl in the southern Chinese city of Shaoguan. State-run media have said two workers died, but many Uighurs believe more were killed and said the incident was an example of how little the government cared about them.

The ugly scenes over the last several days highlight how far away the Communist Party is from one of its top goals: Creating a "harmonious society." The unrest was also an embarrassment for the Chinese leadership, which is getting ready to celebrate the 60th anniversary of Communist rule and wants to show it has created a stable country.

But harmony has been hard to achieve in Xinjiang, a rugged region three times the size of Texas with deserts, mountains and the promise of huge oil and natural gas reserves. Xinjiang is also the homeland for 9 million Uighurs (pronounced WEE-gers), a Turkic-speaking group.

Many Uighurs believe the Han Chinese, who have flooded into the region in recent years, are trying to crowd them out. They often accuse the Han of prejudice and waging campaigns to restrict their religion and culture.

The Han Chinese allege the Uighurs are backward and ungrateful for all the economic development and modernization the Han have brought to Xinjiang. They also complain that the Uighurs' religion — a moderate form of Sunni Islam — keeps them from blending into Chinese society, which is officially communist and largely secular.

U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay called the violence a "major tragedy" and said all sides should "exercise great restraint so as not to spark further violence and loss of life."

The authorities have been trying to control the unrest by blocking the Internet, including social networking sites such as Facebook, and limiting access to texting services on cell phones. At the same time, police have generally been allowing foreign media to cover the tensions.

In a sign the government was trying to address communal grievances after the factory brawl in southern China, the official Xinhua News Agency said Tuesday that 13 people had been arrested, including three from Xinjiang. Two others were arrested for spreading rumors on the Internet that Xinjiang employees had raped two female workers, the report said, citing a local police official.

Chinese officials dismiss claims that the Urumqi rioting was caused by long-simmering resentments among the Uighurs. They said the crowds were stirred up by U.S.-exiled Uighur activist Rebiya Kadeer and her overseas followers, who used the Internet to spread rumors.

"Using violence, making rumors, and distorting facts are what cowards do because they are afraid to see social stability and ethnic solidarity in Xinjiang," Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said in Beijing during a blistering verbal attack on Kadeer. She has denied the allegations.

In Washington, D.C., Kadeer accused China of inciting the ethnic violence, saying peaceful Uighur demonstrators have been targeted as part of the continuing repression in the region by the Chinese government.

"I'm not responsible," Kadeer, president of the Uyghur American Association said, during a rally. "The Chinese authorities instigated the violence."
 
Gee I wonder where this PRC official learned this suggested course of action of executing rioters/protestors...oh riiight.  :o

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090708/ap_on_...s_china_protest

Chinese troops flood streets after riots
By WILLIAM FOREMAN, Associated Press Writer William Foreman, Associated Press Writer
13 mins ago

URUMQI, China – Thousands of Chinese troops flooded into this city Wednesday to separate feuding ethnic groups after three days of communal violence left 156 people dead, and a senior Communist Party official vowed to execute those guilty of murder in the rioting in western China.

Long convoys of armored cars and green troop trucks with riot police rumbled through Urumqi, a city of 2.3 million people. Other security forces carrying automatic rifles with bayonets formed cordons to defend Muslim neighborhoods from marauding groups of vigilantes with sticks.

Military helicopters buzzed over Xinjiang's regional capital, dropping pamphlets urging people to stay in their homes and stop fighting. Special police from other provinces were called in to patrol the city.

The crisis was so severe that President Hu Jintao cut short a trip to Italy, where he was to participate in a Group of Eight summit.
It was an embarrassing move for a leader who wants to show that China has a harmonious society as it prepares to celebrate the 60th anniversary of Communist rule.

The heightened security came amid the worst spasm of ethnic violence in decades in Xinjiang — a sprawling, oil-rich territory that borders Pakistan, Afghanistan and other Central Asian countries. The region is home to the Uighur ethnic minority, who rioted Sunday and attacked the Han Chinese — the nation's biggest ethnic group — after holding a protest that was ended by police.

Officials have said 156 people were killed as the Turkic-speaking Uighurs ran amok in the city, beating and stabbing the Han Chinese. The Uighurs allege that trigger-happy security forces gunned down many of the protesters, and officials have yet to give an ethnic breakdown of those killed.


Li Zhi, the highest-ranking Communist Party official in Urumqi, told reporters that some of the rioters were university students who were misled and didn't understand what they were doing. They would be treated leniently, he said, as long as they weren't involved in serious acts of violence and vandalism.

But Li added: "To those who committed crimes with cruel means, we will execute them."

He also repeated allegations that the riot was whipped up by U.S.-exiled Uighur activist Rebiya Kadeer and her overseas supporters. "They're afraid to see our economic prosperity. They're afraid to see our ethnic unity and the people living a stable, prosperous life," he said.

Kadeer has denied masterminding the violence, and many Uighurs laughed off the notion that they were puppets of groups abroad.

"Not even a 3-year-old would believe that Rebiya stirred this up. It's ridiculous," said a shopkeeper who only identified himself as Ahmet. Like other Uighurs, he declined to give his full name because he feared the police would detain him.

Ahmet was quick to rattle off a long list of grievances commonly mentioned by Uighurs. He accused the Han Chinese of discrimination and alleged that government policies were forcing them to abandon their culture, language and Islamic faith.

"After all this rioting, I'm still filled with hatred. I'm not afraid of the Han Chinese," Ahmet said.

His neighborhood in southern Urumqi was targeted by mobs of Han Chinese who roamed the capital Tuesday seeking revenge. Ahmet's friends had video shot by mobile phones and cameras that showed the stick-wielding Han men beating Uighurs. He pointed to blood stains on a white concrete apartment wall, where he said a Uighur was severely stabbed.

A Uighur college student who called herself Parizat added, "The men were carrying a Chinese flag. I never thought something like this would happen. We're all Chinese citizens."
The Uighurs accused paramilitary police of allowing the Han Chinese to attack their neighbors. But in the video, the troops appeared to be trying to block or restrain the mobs.


On Wednesday, the government warned residents against carrying weapons on the street, and most people generally complied. But there were groups of Han Chinese who tried to find soft spots in police cordons and rush into Uighur neighborhoods.

One such failed attempt sent a wave of terror and panic through the biggest Uighur neighborhood, Er Dao Qiao.

When someone yelled, "The Han are coming!" children scampered indoors and women ran shrieking through a backstreet market with carts of watermelons, shops selling cold soft drinks and smoky grills with sizzling lamb kebabs.

Within seconds, the men armed themselves with spears stashed behind doors and under market stands. The weapons were long poles with knives and meat cleavers tied to the ends. Piles of rocks were placed across the street for ammunition.

One Uighur graduate student who called himself Memet greeted a foreign reporter in English by saying, "Welcome to the jungle!" 

"I think the Uighur people lately are kind of happy. You can see it in their eyes, a bit of happiness. We've spoken up. People know we exist now," he said.


The ethnic hatred in Xinjiang appears to run so deep that many Uighurs won't express sorrow for the Han Chinese who were attacked Sunday.

One of them was Dong Yuanyuan, 24, a newlywed who said she was on a bus with her husband getting ready to leave on their honeymoon. She said Uighur attackers dragged them off the bus and beat them until they were unconscious. Her husband was still missing, said the woman, who had abrasions on her face, arms and knees.

"My aunts have been going to all the hospitals to search for him. He must still be unconscious," she told reporters who joined a government tour at the People's Hospital.

Another victim was Ma Weihong, who said she was walking home from a park with her 10-year-old son when the riot started. The boy suffered minor injuries, but the mother had a broken arm and wrist, missing teeth and head wounds.

"The stores all closed up and we tried to run for home," she said. "That is when they caught us. We couldn't get away."
 
So why isn't Iran screaming bloody murder over their fellow Muslims in Xinjiang like they normally do for Palestine? Oh rigght. They got better relations with China.  ::)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090711/ap_on_re_as/as_china_protest

By WILLIAM FOREMAN and GILLIAN WONG, Associated Press Writers William Foreman And Gillian Wong, Associated Press Writers – 20 mins ago
URUMQI, China – China raised the death toll from riots in its Xinjiang region to 184, state media said Saturday, giving an ethnic breakdown of the dead for the first time after communal violence broke out in this far western city.

The official Xinhua News Agency said 137 of the victims belonged to the dominant Han ethnic group. The rest included 45 men and one woman who were Uighurs, and one man of the Hui Muslim ethnic group, the report said, citing the information office of the regional government.

The previous death toll was 156. Xinhua gave no details on the newly reported deaths, including whether any were from Tuesday, when Han men seeking revenge for the original Uighur-led protest that turned violent marched through the streets with clubs and cleavers, trying to push past police guarding minority neighborhoods.

Nearly a week after the rioting began, paramilitary police carrying automatic weapons and riot shields blocked some roads leading to the largely Muslim Uighur district of the city Saturday, and groups of 30 marched along the road chanting slogans encouraging ethnic unity.

Some shops were still closed, and a police van blared public announcements in the Uighur language urging residents to oppose activist Rebiya Kadeer, a 62-year-old Uighur businesswoman who lives in exile in the U.S., whom China says instigated the riots. She has denied it.

Protests continued Friday after a petite Muslim woman began complaining that the public washrooms were closed at a crowded mosque — the most important day of the week for Islamic worship. Muslims perform required ablutions, or washing, before prayer.


When a group gathered around her on the sidewalk, Madina Ahtam then railed against communist rule in Xinjiang.

The 26-year-old businesswoman eventually led the crowd of mostly men in a fist-pumping street march that was quickly blocked by riot police, some with automatic rifles pointed at the protesters.

Women have been on the front line in Urumqi partly because more than 1,400 men in the Muslim Uighur minority have been rounded up by police since ethnic rioting broke out July 5. As the communist government launches a sweeping security crackdown, the women have faced down troops, led protests and risked arrest by speaking out against police tactics they believe are excessive.

The violence came as the Uighurs were protesting the June 25 deaths of Uighur factory workers in a brawl in southern China. The crowd then scattered throughout Urumqi, attacking Han Chinese, burning cars and smashing windows.

Many Uighurs who are still free live in fear of being arrested for any act of dissent.

Thousands of Chinese troops have flooded into Urumqi to separate the feuding ethnic groups, and a senior Communist Party official vowed to execute those guilty of murder in the rioting.
A report in the Urumqi Evening News on Friday said police had caught 190 suspects in four raids the day before.

In many Uighur neighborhoods during the crisis in Urumqi, the women did much of the talking with reporters as the men gathered in small groups on street corners and in back alleys, speaking quietly among themselves.

"I can't speak freely. The police could come any minute and haul me away," said a Uighur man who would only identify himself as Alim.

But on Friday, some men challenged officials when they showed up for prayers at Urumqi's popular White Mosque and found the gate closed. Officials had earlier said the mosque would be closed for public safety reasons as security forces tried to pacify the capital.

The mosque was eventually opened when the crowd swelled and there was a threat of unrest, police said.

Most Muslim Uighurs practice a moderate form of Sunni Islam or follow the mystical Sufism tradition. The women often work and lead an active social life outside the home. Many wear brightly colored head scarves but the custom is not strongly enforced. Young Uighur women often wear jeans, formfitting tops and dresses.

As the faithful streamed into the White Mosque, Ahtam arrived holding a lilac umbrella and told foreign reporters in broken English, "Toilet no open. No water."

She led reporters to an area where the faithful are supposed to cleanse themselves before prayers and said with tears running down her cheeks, "Washing room not open. Everybody no wash."

After the prayers, she continued speaking on the sidewalk and attracted about 40 people who applauded when she criticized the government.

"Every Uighur people are afraid. Do you understand? We are afraid. Chinese people are very happy. Why?" said Ahtam.

The government believes the Uighurs should be grateful for Xinjiang's rapid economic development, which has brought new schools, highways, airports, railways, natural gas fields and oil wells in the sprawling, rugged Central Asian region, three times the size of Texas.

But many of the Turkic-speaking Uighurs, with a population of 9 million in Xinjiang, accuse the dominant Han ethnic group of discriminating against them and saving all the best jobs for themselves. Many also say the Communist Party is repressive and tries to snuff out their Islamic faith, language and culture.


As Ahtam's crowd became more agitated, about 20 riot police with clubs marched toward the group. The Uighurs pumped their fists in the air and walked down the street with Ahtam leading the pack.

About 200 more riot police arrived and cut off the group, with some of the security forces kneeling down and pointing their automatic rifles at the marchers. Foreign reporters were led to a side alley, out of view of the protesters, who were forced to squat on the sidewalk along a row of shuttered shops.

Hours later, calls to Ahtam's cell phone went unanswered and it was unknown what happened to her.

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Associated Press writer Charles Babington contributed to this report from L'Aquila, Italy.
 
The fact that most Chinese Muslims are Sunni might also account for Iran's antipathy towards them.
 
E.R. Campbell said:
The fact that most Chinese Muslims are Sunni might also account for Iran's antipathy towards them.


That thought came to me as well, but remember that aren't most of the Palestinians Sunni as well? But yet Iran is one of the most vocal critics of Israel.
 
CougarDaddy said:
That thought came to me as well, but remember that aren't most of the Palestinians Sunni as well? But yet Iran is one of the most vocal critics of Israel.


I think the very existence of Israel dominates the politics of the region. Sunni and Shia are united in their detestation of a Jewish state near the "heart" of Islam, occupying one of the holy places. In terms of competition for the leadership of the Arab/Persian (and North African and West Asian?) "community" it is vital to be the one that professes the most virulent hatred for Israel. A leading nation need not actually do anything about Israel. It can, as Egypt does, even have normal, peaceful relations with the Zionist state, but each Arab/Persian nation must, ritually, pronounce its loathing of Israel and the Jews, just as, equally ritually, Israel must protest and react against the Arab/Persian threats and periodic acts of terrorism.

Further, China is not the sort of nation against which one rants and raves with impunity. The Chinese are proud and prickly and prone to respond, forcefully, to perceived insults. (Juts look at the problems Canada has trying to gain “Approved Destination Status” for China’s millions of tourists. The Chinese are withholding it – and the high value trade it represents for Canada – as punishment for the Harper government’s amateurish policies towards China.)
 
CougarDaddy said:
That thought came to me as well, but remember that aren't most of the Palestinians Sunni as well? But yet Iran is one of the most vocal critics of Israel.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
 
Yet another update.

From: Agence France-Presse - 7/13/2009 4:35 PM GMT

US-China strategic-economic dialogue set for July 27
Top US and Chinese leaders will meet for the first "strategic and economic dialogue" with the administration of President Barack Obama in Washington July 27-28, US officials said Monday.

The dialogue "will focus on addressing the challenges and opportunities that both countries face on a wide range of bilateral, regional and global areas of immediate and long-term strategic and economic interests," according to a statement from the US Treasury and State Departments.

"This first meeting of the dialogue will also set the stage for intensive, ongoing and future bilateral cooperative mechanisms."

The meeting is the first in a series agreed by Obama and China's President Hu Jintao that replaces a "strategic economic dialogue" established by former president George W. Bush's administration and Beijing.


US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner will be joined by their respective Chinese co-chairs, State Councilor Dai Bingguo and Vice Premier Wang Qishan.
 
As said, China's government still has yet to provide more than scant evidence of an Al-Qaeda link to any Uighur dissenter group.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/story.html?id=1789242

SHANGHAI -- A North African offshoot of al-Qaeda has China in its crosshairs because of its treatment of Muslim rioters in Urumqi last week.

A group called al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQM) is threatening attacks on the 50,000 Chinese workers in Algeria
, according to a report prepared by international risk consultants Sterling Assynt and revealed in the South China Morning Post Tuesday.

The Chinese government is taking its first threat from Osama bin Laden's deadly network seriously. Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang told reporters: "We will keep a close eye on developments and make joint efforts with relevant countries to take all necessary measures to ensure the safety of overseas Chinese institutions and people."

The al-Qaeda warning comes just a week after ethnic riots in Urumqi, capital of China's western Xinjiang region, left at least 184 dead. Ironically, the Chinese government claims only about one-third of the dead are Uighurs, who are Sunni Muslims of Turkic extraction. It says the vast majority are Han, the dominant ethnic group in China.

Although it has offered scant proof, Beijing has maintained since the trouble began on July 5 that exiled Uighurs with ties to al-Qaeda fomented the violence.

Sterling Assynt was apparently tipped to the impending al-Qaeda attacks by Internet "chatter" among angry jihadists.


Beijing frequently blames "terrorists" for attacks in Tibet and the Xinjiang Autonomist Region, but China has actually been spared attacks on its territory by anyone other than homegrown troublemakers. Its ability to ramp up security at its borders, as it did in advance of last summer's Olympic Games, is legend -- and effective.

The fledgling superpower isn't quite so lucky outside its own boundaries, however, particularly as it increases its economic interests in Africa.

While not specifically targeted, Chinese workers have been caught up in local fights and been kidnapped in Ethiopia, Nigeria and Sudan in recent years. And, just last month, AQM attacked Algerian police guarding the Chinese workers who are building Algeria's east-west highway. Some 19 Algerians were killed.

AQM's sudden interest in defending Uighurs comes after a week of near indifference to their plight by the Islamic world. The sole exception was Turkey, where public opinion prompted the government into a quick defence of its ethnic blood brothers.


Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan was particularly outspoken.

"The incidents in China are a genocide," he said. "There's no point in interpreting this otherwise."

On Tuesday, the official China Daily called on Erdogan "to take back his remarks."

Meanwhile, in Iran, no stranger to internal turmoil, the official response was so muted some of the more activist mullahs were spurred to protest on their own when China closed most mosques in Urumqi in an effort to prevent Uighurs from gathering in numbers for Friday prayers last week.

"Although the Chinese government has regarded the event as an ethnic conflict, the government's support for the opposing group, the severe repression of the Muslims and the closing of their mosques are all signs of a conspiracy against the Muslims in the region," Ayatollah Makarem Shirazi said in a statement.

While the western world was not vociferous in its support of the Uighurs, the Arab world was quieter still. And, its overwhelming silence was probably as gratifying to China as it was expected.

This year, China replaced the U.S. as the biggest exporter to the oil soaked and trouble-ridden Mideast countries that were once prosperous way stations along the famous Silk Road trading route. As author Ben Simpfendorfer points out in his recently published book, "The New Silk Road," China didn't steal the U.S. trading crown in the region by selling an astronomically priced rocket to Egypt, either. Rather, it triumphed by connecting hundreds of thousands of Mideast traders with factories in China that make everything from shoes to mixing bowls. Beijing facilitated ties that bind more firmly than political ideals and even religious ideals, particularly among governments who often have their own internal bogeymen to fight. Simply put, Sino-Arab relations withstood their first major test and trade trumped.
 
A different way of viewing China. I found the final paragraph very interesting indeed, one rarely thinks of Turkey as being an international player anymore (after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire during WWI).

http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/15/uighurs-china-great-game-russia-al-qaeda-opinions-contributors-charles-hill.html

The New Great Game
Charles Hill, 07.16.09, 12:01 AM EDT
China's best-kept secret is out.

For years it's been a closely held secret: The People's Republic of China is an empire desperately trying to make the world think it's a state.

The riots by Uighurs in China's far northwest are not something new; the place really erupted back about the time of the American Civil War. Clashes between Han Chinese moving into the basin, range and uplands inhabited by the much different ethnic people of the Central Asian heartland began at least 2,000 years ago in the Han Dynasty. Some of the most powerful pieces in Chinese literature, like the Tang Dynasty Ballad of the Army Carts by the eighth-century poet Du Fu, tell of the bitter hardships of lonely soldiers sent to garrison military settlements far to the west of China proper.
The Qing Dynasty (1644-1912) conquered East Turkestan in the 18th century and began to consolidate control there in the late 1800s. But the Qing court, terminally beleaguered by Western encroachments along the China coast, was too feeble to impose central control on its far-flung takings.

The collapse of the Qing in 1912 intensified China's Search for a Political Form, as historian Jack Gray titled it. Mao Zedong's successful guerrilla wars and 1949 takeover imposed the form: a Communist internationalism under which the acquisitions of dynastic empires past, as well as ethnic and nationalistic movements, were swiftly and powerfully subsumed by a Marxist-Maoist ideology aimed at bringing world revolution. The new People's Republic of China declared the far northwest to be its "Xinjiang-Uygur Autonomous Region."

Ever since the rise and conquests of the Arabs in the seventh century, waves of Muslim influence began to reach Chinese Central Asia. Arab traders, indigenous converts, mystical Sufi enthusiasts and, eventually, the radical Islamism of the Muslim Brotherhood arrived and even played a role in bringing about an end to the Qing Dynasty. Across the years, one constant theme was periodic rebellion by Muslim Uighurs and a growing sense in Beijing that the locals were intractable, treacherous and violent.

With China's rise to wealth and power in the post-Mao era, the PRC, now lacking the cover of world revolution, was forced to find some way to legitimate its possession of Xinjiang. World history's age of empire had ended by the mid-20th century. Communist China's evil twin, the USSR, had been the territorial successor to the Tsarist empire as Mao's PRC had been to the Qing.

At the Cold War's end, the Soviet Union came apart; its counterparts to China's Xinjiang became independent sovereign states and UN members. The PRC, determined to avoid a like fate, began a fervent campaign to convince the international community that all lands behind its borders, acquired in the imperial past, are inviolable internal possessions of its sovereign statehood.

Whatever the forum, notably in the United Nations and its associated international agencies, and whenever an issue touches on sovereign statehood, as when Kosovo was detached from Serbia in 2008, the PRC can be counted on as the most determined defender of the proposition that nonintervention in the internal affairs of a sovereign state within the Westphalian international system is the most sacrosanct principle of world affairs. China takes every care to present itself as the perfect, and most particular, international citizen.

It's no wonder why. China's vast borderlands today encompass a dizzying variety of languages, ethnicities, religions and nationalities: Manchus, Mongols, Tibetans and Uighurs are the most prominent; a lengthy list of other distinctive minority peoples are spread all along China's southern and southeastern marches.

And yet China's apparent ambitions beyond its borders seem to belie its insistence on tightly wound statehood. Some of the Qing possessions not still under PRC control are in its sights--Taiwan and the entirety of the South China Sea down to Brunei are included. As the U.S. Navy is starting to realize, a major PRC aim is to transform all the waters of maritime Asia--those between the continental mainland and the offshore states of Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines and Malaysia--into a Chinese "lake." If nominally still in the category of international straits or high seas, these waters would become de facto a "no go" zone for the world's shipping. Chinese authorities would have to be prenotified and approve passage there--imperial-era influence regained.

The 1989 Tiananmen killings occurred when students confronted soldiers. The uprising was crushed but left a feeling that the Chinese Revolution, which might be dated back to 1911 or even 1839, was not over. Predictions were that when the next round came, it would not be students but urban workers who would have to be put down. The Uighur riots of July 2009 look something like that but with the added volatility of ethnicity and religion at work as well.

The epicenter of the Islamist war on world order (a more accurate term than the "war on terror") is now on the Afghan-Pakistan border, a fact that should be keeping China's leaders sleepless in Beijing as a restive Uighur population in "East Turkestan," as the locals call it, offers a new front for radical Islamist warfare. Perhaps this possibility was in President Hu Jintao's thoughts as he broke off from the G-8 summit in Italy to return to oversee the Xinjiang crisis.
The July riots in Urumqi are not just one more case of "every 30 years a small rebellion," as the Uighur-Han confrontation has been described. A new concatenation of claims is taking shape.

The Chinese will have to accelerate their program to overwhelm Xinjiang with Han-dominated population, culture, and economy--to complete their centuries-long imperial plan even as they insist on their privileges as a sovereign state.
The Uighurs and their external supporters in the World Uighur Congress will seek a solution in the autonomy promised by the original creation of the Xinjiang-Uyghur Autonomous Region, but they won't get it any more than Tibetans will be allowed true autonomy in their autonomous region, where another process of Chinese-ization has been long under way.
By frustrating legitimate Uighur aspirations, Beijing will provide al-Qaeda-inspired Islamist militants with the means to radicalize the Muslim population of China's northwest in a jihad. China's minorities policy recognizes the existence of ethnic nationalities like Uighurs and Tibetans but refuses to recognize religion. This plays into the hands of Muslim extremists. Beijing has already branded the Uighur uprising as "Islamic terrorism."

The idea of a ''clash of civilizations'' may be superseded by a clash of ''spheres of influence,'' an old concept in world affairs that has raised its head again. China is extending its de facto power westward to fit its de jure state boundaries. Russia is seeking a sphere of influence over its lost territories in Central Asia; Russia approves what the PRC is doing with the Uighurs because it wants approval for its own ambitions in the area. The U.S. has important interests there as a staging area for its ''Af-Pak'' counter-insurgency efforts.

And the rising power Turkey has come on the scene to claim a sphere of influence across all the Turkic ethnic-linguistic Central Asian lands that range well inside China's borders. The Turkish prime minister has called the situation in Xinjiang a "genocide." There are layers of complex factors in play here involving power politics, economic exploitation, ethnic rivalries and religion. A new "Great Game" is under way, and the Chinese Revolution is still not over.

Charles Hill, a former U.S. diplomat, is a research fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution, where he is co-director of the Hoover working group on Islamism and International Order.


 
China admits Uighur riot killings

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Chinese forces are still out
in force in Urumqi


A Chinese official says police shot dead 12 Uighur rioters in Urumqi this month,
in a rare government admission of deaths inflicted by security forces.

Nuer Baikeli, governor of Xinjiang region and himself a Uighur, said those killed
had ignored police warning shots and were attacking civilians and shops. He said
police had shown restraint and had no choice but to act.

Some 200 people - mostly Han Chinese - died in the clashes between Muslim
Uighurs and Han Chinese in Urumqi.

"The rioters, the criminals, continued to act in an extremely vicious manner,
insisted on having their way, and continued to threaten the lives of others,"
he told reporters. "It was at this point that our public security forces and
military police decisively fired. They shot dead 12 rioters. Of them, three
died on site, and nine died as people tried to save them."

The violence in Xinjiang began on 5 July during a protest by Uighurs over
a brawl in southern China in late June in which two people were killed.
Uighur groups in exile have said hundreds of Uighurs were killed.
 
This, admitting Uyghur deaths, is for internal consumption. The Han want some blood. Please note that every Chinese TV newscast, for days and days and days, will have played up the 200 Han casualties.

There is a large audience who need to be made to "understand" that the Uyghurs are violent separatists.

Now, in fairness, we Canadians were pretty excited when, back nearly 40 years ago, a gang of separatists here in Canada kidnapped a couple of "ranking" people and killed one of them. The old war Measures Act, with some pretty draconian provisions, was quickly applied and so on. 
 
E.R. Campbell said:
This, admitting Uyghur deaths, is for internal consumption. The Han want some blood. Please note that every Chinese TV newscast, for days and days and days, will have played up the 200 Han casualties.

Well you got to understand, the media is state controlled, you can't say anything else. The Han and Uyghur have been' living together for more than a 100 years. The problem is that the Communist Chinese government policy on minorities increased(because the "War on Terror") and the flood of Han to that region. Further more the economical despairity between the two is wide. Its like saying these bloody immigrants (Han) is taking all the good jobs, this fear this triggers violence, this also happened to Canada once upon a time. From speaking to friends, they don't really believe that this rioting was caused by terrorist groups, just bottle up ethnic hate and fear. Its easy to blame terrorist, because they could be anyone that the state deems to be.
 
Actually, the Han and the Uyghur peoples have been living “together” for well over 2,000 years – usually none to happily, either. The Han started to “settle” the West when they needed to secure the Northern Silk Road; the Turkik peoples who lived there, herding, trading and raiding, were less than pleased to see them. The latest Han in migration is large and aims, specifically, to reduce the Uyghurs to (small) minority status by overwhelming them, peacefully.

Regarding Chinese media: It is true that all media is “state controlled” but there are many, many competing voices in print and, especially, on TV. There is a rough and competitive TV market featuring national government channels, provincial and city government channels and private channels. Any can be yanked off the air for a variety of infractions but it is very wrong to assume that there is one single message or one single voice. There is no message, not for long anyway, that runs too far counter to the Beijing party line, but not all the “messages” faithfully toe that line, either.
 
Another update about the upcoming conference/summit:

Agence France-Presse - 7/21/2009 8:24 PM GMT
Obama to address China-US economic talks
US President Barack Obama will address the opening of top level strategic and economic talks between Chinese and US leaders here next week, a White House official said Tuesday.

"President Obama will address the opening session of the first US-China strategic and economic dialogue on Monday July, 27," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said.


Gibbs added Obama and Chinese President Hu Jintao "launched this dialogue during their meeting in London in April as a way of strengthening relationships between the two countries."

The new high-level discussions, set for Monday and Tuesday, are an extension of economic talks begun under the previous administration of George W. Bush, but with a broader focus.


The dialogue "will focus on addressing the challenges and opportunities that both countries face on a wide range of bilateral, regional and global areas of immediate and long-term strategic and economic interests," according to a joint statement from the US Treasury and State Departments last week.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner will chair the American side of the dialogue.

Hu and Obama agreed when they met in April that Clinton and Chinese State Councilor Dai Bingguo will chair the "strategic track" and Geithner and Chinese Vice Premier Wang Qishan will chair the "economic track" of the talks.

The US leader also accepted an invitation to visit China later in the year.
 
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