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Canadian Surface Combatant RFQ

And in the same vein

2023

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U.K. cements defense ties with Japan by signing Hiroshima Accord

Carrier deployment, expanding drills and chip collaboration highlight new pact
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1923

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Washington Naval Treaty - Wikipedia

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The treaty was concluded on February 6, 1922. Ratifications of that treaty were exchanged in Washington on August 17, 1923, and it was registered in the League of Nations Treaty Series on April 16, 1924.[1]
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The proposals for capital ships were largely accepted by the British delegation. However, they were controversial with the British public. Britain could no longer have adequate fleets in the North Sea, the Mediterranean and the Far East simultaneously, which provoked outrage from parts of the Royal Navy.[citation needed]

Nevertheless, there was huge demand for the British to agree to the limits and reductions: the risk of war with the Americans was increasingly regarded as merely theoretical as there were very few policy differences between the two Anglophone powers; continued naval spending was unpopular in Britain throughout the empire; and Britain was implementing major budget reductions due to the post–World War I recession.[10]

The Japanese delegation was divided. Japanese naval doctrine required the maintenance of a fleet 70% the size of that of the United States, which was felt to be the minimum necessary to defeat the Americans in any subsequent war. The Japanese envisaged two separate engagements, first with the U.S. Pacific Fleet and then with the U.S. Atlantic Fleet. It calculated that a 7:5 ratio in the first battle would produce enough of a margin of victory to be able to win the subsequent engagement and so a 3:5 ratio was unacceptable because a 3:5 total fleet size ratio would imply a 6:5 ratio in the first battle. Nevertheless, the director of the delegation, Katō Tomosaburō, preferred to accept the latter to the prospect of an arms race with the United States, as the relative industrial strength of the two nations would cause Japan to lose such an arms race and possibly suffer an economic crisis. At the beginning of the negotiations, the Japanese had only 55% of the capital ships and 18% of the GDP of the Americans.[citation needed]

His opinion was opposed strongly by Katō Kanji, the president of the Naval Staff College, who acted as his chief naval aide at the delegation and represented the influential "big navy" opinion that Japan had to prepare as thoroughly as possible for an inevitable conflict against the United States, which could build indefinitely more warships because of its huge industrial power.[citation needed]

Katō Tomosaburō was finally able to persuade the Japanese high command to accept the Hughes proposals, but the treaty was for years a source of controversy in the navy.[11]
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Everything old is new again, right enough.

Even the conniptions had by the yards and the accountants when a battlecruiser was turned into an aircraft carrier even as the hull was being built.

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Akagi (Japanese ship originally planned as a battlecruiser but converted during construction to an aircraft carrier) in April 1925.
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Can your modern modular construction let you do that?
 
I think it is important to strengthen our ties with the UK and having them join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership trade bloc is good news and gives us more trade options.

The Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) is a free trade agreement between Canada and 10 other countries in the Asia-Pacific. CPTPP covers virtually all sectors and aspects of trade between Canada and member countries to reduce trade barriers and facilitate trade.
 
Colin Parkinson said:
I think it is important to strengthen our ties with the UK and having them join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership trade bloc is good news and gives us more trade options.

The Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) is a free trade agreement between Canada and 10 other countries in the Asia-Pacific. CPTPP covers virtually all sectors and aspects of trade between Canada and member countries to reduce trade barriers and facilitate trade.
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Stop me if you have seen this

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Sketch map of the All Red Line drawn in 1902 or 1903[

The Centre of Gravity has shifted.
From London.
To the British Indian Ocean Territories.

Chile and Peru you can thank Tam Cochrane for. He was a pal of Simon Bolivar.

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Thomas Cochrane, 10th Earl of Dundonald - Wikipedia

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First Chilean Navy Squadron - Wikipedia

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Thomas Cochrane, Earl of Dundonald | Westminster Abbey

The grave of Thomas Cochrane, 10th Earl of Dundonald, the famous admiral, is in the central part of the nave of Westminster Abbey.
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Tam's Dundonald, built to keep the Norwegian Lord of the Isles as away from the Burgh of Ayr, is just between the Old Troon golf course and Tam's coal tar factory at the Quarry Weel by Tarholm.

Japan?

Anglo-Japanese Friendship Treaty - Wikipedia

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Mexico?

After Mexico achieved its independence in September 1821, Britain was the first European great power to recognize Mexican sovereignty. Soon afterwards, Emperor Agustín de Iturbide sent a diplomatic envoy to London to establish diplomatic communications between the two nations. In 1837, both nations ratified a Treaty of Amity, Commerce and Navigation, to abolish the slave trade.[1][2] The British established a network of merchant houses in the major cities.
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Mexico–United Kingdom relations - Wikipedia

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It is almost as if WWI and WWII never happened. ;)
 
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Latest training scenario for the Command Information Centre (CIC)

The Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC) project recently achieved another major design milestone. In April, 16 sailors from coast to coast arrived at the Human Performance Lab in Dahlgren, Virginia where they participated in the validation of a full-scale mock up of a selected Operations Room Layout. This exercise was the culmination of a detailed design process, and the CSC Project is happy to report it resulted in a “locked in” Command Information Centre (CIC). The Royal Canadian Navy (RCN) is adopting the United States Navy’s CIC to replace the more commonly used Operations Room, to be more inclusive to all the activities and personnel who will operate in CSC’s CIC.

The design process was conducted over 19 months, predicated on the decision to join the Aegis enterprise. Representatives from PMO CSC, joined by partners from the RCN, Canadian Industry and Aegis design specialists from the Naval Surface Warfare Centre Dahlgren Division (NSWCDD) followed a five-phase approach to optimize the console layout of the CIC Complex. This approach included over 175 interviews with sailors from S3 to Capt(N). The intent of these interviews were to align existing RCN trades and skills with those within the Aegis enterprise, creating a “USN to RCN” dictionary.

Once this data was collected and analysed, a tabletop exercise was conducted in Halifax in October 2022. This exercise was a collaborative approach between the operational community and warship designers where a 1:12 scale model with 3D printed consoles were used to brainstorm layout options for the three spaces that make up the CIC, Sonar Display Room and the Operational Planning/Command Planning Room. Over 75 designs were created from this event with 18 being deemed viable for further evaluation. These 18 designs were studied by NSWCDD human factor engineers and scored against a complex scorecard focussing on communication flow, personnel adjacencies and many others.

A cadre of RCN personnel then selected a final design to be stress tested at a Cognitive Walkthrough validation exercise in April 2023. To stress test the model, selected operators were provided with a week of instruction describing the new aspects of the CSC Combat System suite of weapons, sensors, and new positions. After this orientation training, the validation exercise was a three-day event where various warfare scenarios were exercised with the CIC watch, who sat their positions within the CIC mock-up. Each sailor was shadowed by a human factors engineer who gathered detailed feedback as scenarios from reading warnings to conducting engagements were executed.

While CSC belongs to the future fleet, crucial design work is happening now with sailor input being critical to get it right. CSC will be the backbone of the combatant fleet, and will be a warship designed by sailors, for sailors.
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Future fleet being shaped by today’s sailors

The Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC) project recently achieved another major design milestone. In April, 16 sailors from coast to coast arrived at the Human Performance Lab in Dahlgren, Virginia where they participated in the validation of a full-scale mock up of a selected Operations Room Layout.
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OceanBonfire said:
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Future fleet being shaped by today’s sailors

The Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC) project recently achieved another major design milestone. In April, 16 sailors from coast to coast arrived at the Human Performance Lab in Dahlgren, Virginia where they participated in the validation of a full-scale mock up of a selected Operations Room Layout.
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Very interesting. I'm trying to interpolate what's going on in this image but am not sure. There are consoles facing each other (which is not the way the CPF is organized) and there are extra consoles that I'm not sure what does what. Also the orientation of the ship (which way is forward) would change my interpretation of who sits where.

I'm counting 12 consoles, which is similar to what the ship currently has that are directly used without Fleet staff onboard.
 
Underway said:
Very interesting. I'm trying to interpolate what's going on in this image but am not sure. There are consoles facing each other (which is not the way the CPF is organized) and there are extra consoles that I'm not sure what does what. Also the orientation of the ship (which way is forward) would change my interpretation of who sits where.

I'm counting 12 consoles, which is similar to what the ship currently has that are directly used without Fleet staff onboard.
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You may find this interesting
One of the most innovative features of the PPAs (Pattugliatori Polivalenti di Altura) – the seven patrol vessels built as part of Italy's special fleet modernization program ('Naval Law'), together with an amphibious vessel (LHD TRIESTE) and a ship logistics (LSS VULCANO) – is the innovative 'naval cockpit'. This innovation stems from the Italian Navy's specific request for a new guidance instrument on the bridge capable of providing essential steering and combat functions with a minimal crew. Read the full article on the Poder Naval website: www.naval.com.br/blog

 
@Colin Parkinson that's really interesting and I'm glad you posted it. I saw in interview with the CO of that ship on Naval News a month back. The entire bridge concept is a big change from the way we currently do business. A pilot/ co-pilot situation is an interesting way to get around. I would love to see their bridge management in action, as I'm certain there are lessons to be learned from such a unique way of doing things.
 
When I went to the hovercraft (SRN-6) we used the crew cockpit concept back in the 90's. Once you get to a certain speed the traditional bridge management system is unable to keep up with the rapidly changing situation particularly as we still had analog radars and separate chart plotter, long with GPS that was being messed with. But even with the newer navigational tools, fast boats end up on the rocks quite often if they have not honed the crew cockpit skillset. The biggest challenge will be getting the older Captains to accept the changes.
 
Colin Parkinson said:
You may find this interesting
One of the most innovative features of the PPAs (Pattugliatori Polivalenti di Altura) – the seven patrol vessels built as part of Italy's special fleet modernization program ('Naval Law'), together with an amphibious vessel (LHD TRIESTE) and a ship logistics (LSS VULCANO) – is the innovative 'naval cockpit'. This innovation stems from the Italian Navy's specific request for a new guidance instrument on the bridge capable of providing essential steering and combat functions with a minimal crew. Read the full article on the Poder Naval website: www.naval.com.br/blog

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The RCN once had a innovative naval cockpit as well.
 
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