Arrests at anti-Israel/Anti-NATO protest in Montreal

[brihard]

Would Trudeau, based on his history/testimony, listen, comprehend, remember this briefing? Did anyone interrupt his dancing with a bunch of teenage girls, while there was a "disturbance" in Montreal? We don't know, but you would think that someone would think it important enough to shout in his ear.

Trudeau is being mocked on US, UK and Australian TV news that I have seen in the past days.
Not the image I want for Canada.

You can try to be reasonable all you want. Trudeau will still be an embarrassment.

I’m good with being reasonable. I can’t see myself voting for him, but I’m not gonna voluntarily subscribe to being dumb on everything about the guy. I wouldn’t expect a ‘moment of’ reaction from any PM in the circumstances. I wouldn’t have an issue with any PM taking some time go to to an event with their kid.

By the next day, the facts were in, and he issued a condemnation. That’s generally gonna be timely enough for me on such things.

 

[Rifleman62]

This is Canadian reasonable.

 

[George Wallace]

Deportation of Permanent Residents would require convictions for pretty serious criminality.

Wouldn't "sedition" be serious enough criminality, along with supporting, perhaps even raising funds for, a terrorist organization?

 

[The Bread Guy]

Wouldn't "sedition" be serious enough criminality, along with supporting, perhaps even raising funds for, a terrorist organization?

How many have been convicted of same at this point?

 

[brihard]

Wouldn't "sedition" be serious enough criminality, along with supporting, perhaps even raising funds for, a terrorist organization?

Sedition is 14 years, so yes- if it can be demonstrated that someone has seriously taught, advocated, or published the advocation of the use of unlawful force to achieve governmental change in Canada. That’s obviously a very high bar. I don’t believe it’s ever been charged in modernity.

Terrorist financing? Certainly, if you can prove the elements of the offense. Like most things in criminal law you’d need to be able to hit that with considerable specificity and solid evidence.

 

[dimsum]

Would Trudeau, based on his history/testimony, listen, comprehend, remember this briefing? Did anyone interrupt his dancing with a bunch of teenage girls, while there was a "disturbance" in Montreal? We don't know, but you would think that someone would think it important enough to shout in his ear.

What level would a disturbance need to get to for the PM to no-crap need to know immediately? If he were at a high-level conference instead of a Taylor Swift concert, would this have been flagged to his attention and he leave the conference?

Maybe this is at a level where, like the navy does, it wasn’t a “FLASH” message but a “Priority” message. So it’s important, but not “pull the PM out of whatever right now” important.

Trudeau is being mocked on US, UK and Australian TV news that I have seen in the past days.
Not the image I want for Canada.

You can try to be reasonable all you want. Trudeau will still be an embarrassment.
Dither and mouth platitudes in word salad phrases after the fact.

The last few times he was slammed for speaking too soon. I’d be gun shy at that point too.

 

[RangerRay]

Why does the PM have to react in realtime to a mild riot in Montreal? I mean, those are regular occurrences there, no? It didn’t look like anything the local po-po couldn’t handle if they were on the ball.

 

[brihard]

Why does the PM have to react in realtime to a mild riot in Montreal? I mean, those are regular occurrences there, no? It didn’t look like anything the local po-po couldn’t handle if they were on the ball.

The actual ‘riot’ part was very brief. Notice the clips of that are all from the same very small area and the same small chunk of the crowd. And yeah, that’s not super unusual in Montreal. Palais de Congres gets stuff chucked at its windows semi-regularly.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I don't care that the PM didnt comment on the Montreal disturbance. That's a municipal or provincial problem.

But watching the video of him at the concert is very cringe and creepy.

 

[RangerRay]

But watching the video of him at the concert is very cringe and creepy.

I don’t disagree.

 

[Good2Golf]

Seriously, what kind of definitive leader-like direction would Trudeau give? “What does Katie [Telford] think?”

Some people expect more of Trudeau than his brain housing group can give…

 

[ArmyRick]

Why does the PM have to react in realtime to a mild riot in Montreal? I mean, those are regular occurrences there, no? It didn’t look like anything the local po-po couldn’t handle if they were on the ball.

Your missing the point. The anti-jewish/zionist/israeli movement in Canada is escalating every week, with very unacceptable chants, suggestions and outright hate speech. At this point, the PM should be on very high alarm levels about this. Yes, at the Montreal riot, there was plenty of the anti-jewish/pro-hamas BS being chanted (it was not just an "anti-NATO rally" as some media would have you believe)

I am going to be frank (and yes the blunt asshole in me is speaking), this kind of ho-hum, not our fault mentality that the Liberals have is a big part of what is pissing Canadians off in a huge way. There is once again, zero accountability. And it gets really tiring watching the lengthy explanations the Liberal defenders put up here. Enough. Accountability NOW. Transparency NOW.

Looking at these polls, its enough to see I am siding with the majority on this issue.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Your missing the point. The anti-jewish/zionist/israeli movement in Canada is escalating every week, with very unacceptable chants, suggestions and outright hate speech. At this point, the PM should be on very high alarm levels about this. Yes, at the Montreal riot, there was plenty of the anti-jewish/pro-hamas BS being chanted (it was not just an "anti-NATO rally" as some media would have you believe)

Maybe the PM actually agrees with the protesters ? Question... Not accusation.

I am going to be frank (and yes the blunt asshole in me is speaking), this kind of ho-hum, not our fault mentality that the Liberals have is a big part of what is pissing Canadians off in a huge way. There is once again, zero accountability. And it gets really tiring watching the lengthy explanations the Liberal defenders put up here. Enough. Accountability NOW. Transparency NOW.

I think a lack of accountability has become a Canadian cultural trait.

 

[brihard]

Maybe the PM actually agrees with the protesters ? Question... Not accusation.

His condemnation of them suggests otherwise. It was also his government that made public holocaust denial a crime just two years ago.

EDIT TO ADD: Oh, and recently listed Samidoun as a terrorist entity.

 

[OldSolduer]

I think a lack of accountability has become a Canadian cultural trait.

It is - "its not my fault" is a common theme.

 

[Halifax Tar]

His condemnation of them suggests otherwise. It was also his government that made public holocaust denial a crime just two years ago.

EDIT TO ADD: Oh, and recently listed Samidoun as a terrorist entity.

And invited an SS member into parliament...

 

[brihard]

And invited an SS member into parliament...

That was the Speaker, and was obviously a colossal foul up. But we’ve been over that one already; it’s not like anyone knowingly and deliberately invited a Nazi. To the point you raised, no, I don’t believe that particular red herring in any way evidences Trudeau supporting the Montreal
protesters.

 

[Halifax Tar]

That was the Speaker, and was obviously a colossal foul up. But we’ve been over that one already; it’s not like anyone knowingly and deliberately invited a Nazi. To the point you raised, no, I don’t believe that particular red herring in any way evidences Trudeau supporting the Montreal
protesters.

Thank you for your opinion.

 

[brihard]

Thank you for your opinion.

You’re more than welcome.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Why does the PM have to react in realtime to a mild riot in Montreal?

I personally hate that practice and don't think politicians need to comment on everything (doubt it's even Trudeau hitting send)

That said I believe he's created a climate where he been virtue signaling these messages so long now it's expected of him.

Example - He was in a rush to comment on that poor young Muslim girl who had her hajib ripped off and her hair cut, because racism (nevermind she lied about it). I don't believe he commented on the young girl out east who got assaulted for being Jewish, or the two LGBTQ women attacked by the gang of Muslim men (could be totally wrong here).

Identify politics have been pushed hard for the last 9 years. Now people judge how many twitter characters Trudeau uses to condemn protest A compared to strongly condemning protest B.

Everything he does is under an extreme microscope of his own making.