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Or defer them further, because the fixes are still getting figured out or they were forgotten about and the budget will be tight.
Arctic/Offshore Patrol Ship AOPS
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Probably won't happen for another year.
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Cultural folk dancing on well known street?
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On St Laurent just south of Ste Catherine, just be clear on whether you're going to the main floor or the second floor, to avoid surprises.
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Learned that there is a containerized sonar system in development as a US and Canadian partnership. The first client is going to be AOPS. Don't know much about it but the watercooler its that is going to make AOPS a very effective underwater sensor platform. (And right now it's to big to fit on AOPS but that's the prototype and proof of concept model, the next version is going to designed specifically to fit).
Seems like the RCN is taking the patrol part seriously if arctic UWW detection is high on the modularity list.
Seems like the RCN is taking the patrol part seriously if arctic UWW detection is high on the modularity list.
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Would that be based on TRAPS? That system seemed to have some potential. This is cool news @Underway.
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No something much more capable than TRAPS.
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Report by Adam Lajeunesse and William Woityra talking about how the USCG could lease an AOPS or have Irving build them another hull. Seems a bit questionable to me in a few aspects? Sounds like a good way to further delay the CSC program or degrade our own fleet capability.
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Even if they wanted them I doubt if the capacity exists and you're right that its a recipe to delay the CSC. With the Kingston Class starting to be laid up we need every AOPS hull to take over their tasks like Op Reassurance MCM.
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Why not lease them the Canadian Coast Guard ones? Just a thought.
the U.S. coast guard would want them capable of carrying weapons that are significantly bigger than standard armament on the AOP. The coast guard version has none.
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The CCG ones are significantly different inside and setup for research. Depending on who you talk to the CCG is looking forward to getting these ships now. I suppose the other thing is getting a good deal with the USCG now that the Donald is coming into power again.
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I suspect there is a deal to be had. Especially if it comes down to market access.
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The paper did point out that there might be room for one ship in the gap, keep a portion of the workforce from being laid off.
It also pointed out that the RCN might not be able to crew all the AOPS, and that USCG could lease ship 6 in the short term until they got the replacements they need.
It also pointed out that the RCN might not be able to crew all the AOPS, and that USCG could lease ship 6 in the short term until they got the replacements they need.
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good ideas but there was opposition in some of the USCG against the Aiviq because it didnt come with 128 VLS and space lasers and it was built in the US and pretty cheap
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I have serious doubts that there is enough room in the system for another ship at this point, given how you’ll need to have your suppliers and supply chain to spin up enough materials for another unplanned ship. We’re up against a rock and a hard place with the CSC construction, I don’t think it’s workable to potentially delay that key spin up for another country.
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I hope that we can get to work on some aspects of the River. If Irving needs some work maybe they can start fixing the problems in the AOPS?
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Swap them a couple of AOPS for a pair of Constellations? And I suspect that they would be motivated to figuring out how to bolt some NSMs and SeaRams on to the upper decks.
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Why would you want to swap built ships for one not yet built? On top of that, can you imagine the inter-departmental nightmare that would be: Giving the USCG ships in exchange for USN ones to a foreign country (even if an ally). Just the internal US paperwork, coordination, US departments internal trade-offs to be negotiated and getting it through two different Senate and House oversight committees make the end result unrecognizable.
