Alleged PMO obstruction in SNC Lavalin case
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Plead guilty to corruption but not necessarily corruption?
Vern Krishna, a leading tax lawyer and tax professor in Canada, previously made a statement which I believe to be 100 percent correct: "Corruption of government officials is a routine cost of doing business in many countries, including Canada.
https://taxchambers.ca/bribery-and-corruption-in-international-business/
So here we have a plain statement that corruption and bribery are in fact a routine cost of doing business in Canada, like pretty much everywhere else.
Thankfully, at least the the 280,000,000 is theoretically not tax deductible:
"However, even though bribes are a necessary and essential cost of doing business in some countries, the Income Tax Act weighs in with its own “economic morality” by prohibiting the deduction of bribes in computing net income and undermining the very foundation of income tax law, the accurate computation of net income."
"If Canada is going to rigorously apply the CFPOA to all Canadian corporations operating in the 172 countries listed below it in the Corruption Index, we should prepare for less international business and more litigation."
It might be this last point that has more recently come to weigh heavily on political leaders.
Vern Krishna, a leading tax lawyer and tax professor in Canada, previously made a statement which I believe to be 100 percent correct: "Corruption of government officials is a routine cost of doing business in many countries, including Canada.
https://taxchambers.ca/bribery-and-corruption-in-international-business/
So here we have a plain statement that corruption and bribery are in fact a routine cost of doing business in Canada, like pretty much everywhere else.
Thankfully, at least the the 280,000,000 is theoretically not tax deductible:
"However, even though bribes are a necessary and essential cost of doing business in some countries, the Income Tax Act weighs in with its own “economic morality” by prohibiting the deduction of bribes in computing net income and undermining the very foundation of income tax law, the accurate computation of net income."
"If Canada is going to rigorously apply the CFPOA to all Canadian corporations operating in the 172 countries listed below it in the Corruption Index, we should prepare for less international business and more litigation."
It might be this last point that has more recently come to weigh heavily on political leaders.
Jarnhamar
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Filed under Nothing to see here, SNC operating as usual.
[Mods not sure if there is a more appropriate thread sorry]
Councillors shocked by sloppiness of SNC-Lavalin's winning Trillium Line bid
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/snc-lavalin-technical-bid-reaction-1.5439818
[qiote]Some Ottawa city councillors are calling for answers in the wake of revelations the city's technical evaluation team wanted SNC-Lavalin thrown out of the bidding process for the second stage of Ottawa's north-south rail line.
Instead, the company was eventually awarded the $1.6-billion contract for Stage 2 of the Trillium Line.[/quote]
The real question here is why are the councillors shocked? It's SNC :
[Mods not sure if there is a more appropriate thread sorry]
Councillors shocked by sloppiness of SNC-Lavalin's winning Trillium Line bid
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/snc-lavalin-technical-bid-reaction-1.5439818
[qiote]Some Ottawa city councillors are calling for answers in the wake of revelations the city's technical evaluation team wanted SNC-Lavalin thrown out of the bidding process for the second stage of Ottawa's north-south rail line.
Instead, the company was eventually awarded the $1.6-billion contract for Stage 2 of the Trillium Line.[/quote]
The real question here is why are the councillors shocked? It's SNC :
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If you go to the story that came out earlier yesterday, they actually have the summary of the tech evaluation for all three bidders; the SNC bid was shockingly bad. Can't believe they passed it through with clear problems with scope, understanding of the basic project, safety/regulatory issues, and just a generally unprofessional submission. Sometimes there is a clause allowing a bit of wiggle room, but generally it's for things like a required certificate wasn't included in the bid or something, so it's to prevent an otherwise good bid being failed for not meeting a mandatory items because someone forgot to add a piece of paper or whatever.
Here's the link; was completely stunned. This should get the oversight team fired, and tarred& feathered, and the contract award should be canceled.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/snc-lavalin-technical-evaluation-1.5438697
Really not sure why they did this; only thing that makes sense is that they peaked at the financials and it was way cheaper. Which, you know, may happen when you haven't costed major sections or overlooked other basics.
Here's the link; was completely stunned. This should get the oversight team fired, and tarred& feathered, and the contract award should be canceled.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/snc-lavalin-technical-evaluation-1.5438697
Really not sure why they did this; only thing that makes sense is that they peaked at the financials and it was way cheaper. Which, you know, may happen when you haven't costed major sections or overlooked other basics.
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Navy_Pete said:
It's hard to fire the mayor and his cronies, except at the regularly scheduled municipal elections.
SNC-Lavalin's tentacles are long and they are embedded deep in the Canadian and Ontario Liberal Parties. Mayor Jim Watson is a strong Liberal, a former minister in Kathleen Wynne's Ontario Liberal regime. He toes the Party Line which seems to include giving SNC-Lavalin whatever it wants.
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The oversight team is a greasy legalist and some senior city staff, but agree that the Mayor is effectively part of the party.
It's really frustrating that this whole thing is so sub standard; if they are going to be greasy about the process, you really need to deliver something that is at least good enough to stop people from poking at the process and asking questions. Corruption is bad on it's own, but this is kind of inept corruption that is also embarrassing for the cartoon villains involved.
I think heads will roll in the next election but that's not until 2022, so unless someone grows a pair and cancels the contract, phase 2 is going to be an even bigger soup sandwich than phase 1. So far no one has gotten hurt, but with the scale of equipment failures happening, seems like a matter of time. High tension power cables arcing and breaking, trains on parallel tracks somehow colliding at the yard, and some other inexplicable failures are not good signs 4 months into opening.
It's really frustrating that this whole thing is so sub standard; if they are going to be greasy about the process, you really need to deliver something that is at least good enough to stop people from poking at the process and asking questions. Corruption is bad on it's own, but this is kind of inept corruption that is also embarrassing for the cartoon villains involved.
I think heads will roll in the next election but that's not until 2022, so unless someone grows a pair and cancels the contract, phase 2 is going to be an even bigger soup sandwich than phase 1. So far no one has gotten hurt, but with the scale of equipment failures happening, seems like a matter of time. High tension power cables arcing and breaking, trains on parallel tracks somehow colliding at the yard, and some other inexplicable failures are not good signs 4 months into opening.
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Navy_Pete said:
A week is a long time in politics - two years is ancient history. MAYBE if the electorate would actually get out and vote that might send a message.
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ModlrMike said:
Ottawa aspires to get that quality of work, someday...
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Brihard said:
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Latest on the SNC Lavelin affair….conveniently 48 hours after the federal election…
SNC-Lavalin corporations and 2 former top execs charged with fraud, forgery by RCMP
SNC-Lavalin corporations and 2 former top execs charged with fraud, forgery by RCMP
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Having done some work with the RCMP in the past, I'll argue Hanlon's razor.
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Seriously, was anyone really surprised by this? The only anomaly is how soon it happened. I was sure they'd wait until the election signs came down. But hey, why waste time?
This is a completely separate SNC investigation from the one that implicated PMO, JWR, etc. That was “Project Assistance”, this was “Project Agrafe”. This one appears to involve fraud against the provincial government in Quebec.
I don’t see that this is any different from any other matter where, during caretaker period, Federal departments and agencies will refrain from taking actions that could be politically loaded. Most would not both to look to actual facts in the matter and would simply see “SNC” and jump to immediate (but incorrect) conclusions about it being linked to the controversy around the other SNC prosecution.
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Indeed. How soon people seem to have forgotten the fallout from the income trusts fiasco in very late 2005.
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