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My MD in Kelowna said the same.
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Regional District, BC Health, Province, Ministry, Feds. All employing bureaucrats.
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The Opposition is constantly screaming, "hospitals don't have enough nurses!" and "hospitals don't have enough doctors!" "Nurses don't get paid enough!"
It's disingenuous to blame government, especially when those extra people exist.
The proper blame belongs on the hospital administrators, the COOs and CAOs, who cut positions in the attempt to maximize profits. They are the ones that say how many doctors, nurses are employed or the wages they get at at an individual facility, not government.
It's disingenuous to blame government, especially when those extra people exist.
The proper blame belongs on the hospital administrators, the COOs and CAOs, who cut positions in the attempt to maximize profits. They are the ones that say how many doctors, nurses are employed or the wages they get at at an individual facility, not government.
Colin Parkinson
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You could bring in Nurses and Doctors directly from other countries, but the universities would scream because they want to guard their sandbox.
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More their professional colleges that protect the professions, not the public.
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Seeing as hospitals are 100% funded by the government (in Ontario anyway), I didn't realize running a hospital was a for-profit venture.
The vast majority of hospitals in Ontario are corporations incorporated under the Not-For-Profit Corporations Act (which kinda suggests they can't run a profit) and get all of their revenue from the government. Most, if not all, run deficits. Doctors fees are negotiated between the OMA and the government. Nurses wages are negotiated between the government and their union. Argue that the Board of a particular hospital might not be allocating their funds effectively, but it is certainly not because they are trying to "maximize profits".
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RangerRay
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Good. Most of the time they’re a waste of time and medical resources, and inhibit recovery. If I have a cold or flu and am unable to perform my job effectively and pose a health risk to others, I shouldn’t have to go to a walk-in clinic for four hours to waste a doctor’s time to tell me I have a flu and to stay home, get rest and drink fluids. In the meantime, I slowed my recovery for four hours, I spread my germs to others in a crowded waiting room and I was exposed to germs from others in the same crowded waiting room, leading to more time off work.
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That's what Poliviere wants to do. A Blue Seal qualification for professionals, not just Doctors and Nurses.
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Except they are areas of provincial, not federal, authority and responsibility.
GR66
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Now, with the US tariffs encouraging all the Premiers to lower inter-provincial trade barriers would be the ideal time to get them to agree on National standards.
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Here's hoping.
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You spelled “professional colleges/guilds” wrong.
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I’ve lived in a Red-governed Ontario short of doctors since I was a young adult, and I’ve lived in a Blue-governed Ontario where hospital beds/staffing was cut without adequate home-based care put into place before or after said cuts. Under both Red and Blue rule, there were always waiting lists for long-term care/nursing home beds. So like with veterans federally, neither party has painted themselves with glory on this file in the past 30-40 years.
I'll blame hospitals for managerial bloat, for sure, but who's getting these "profits"?
But government DOES control how much funding goes to med schools and nursing schools, so they do have their hand on the faucet to an extent. Another player here is the doctors' licensing colleges, who DO control how many docs get licensed, and how. One former hospital administrator who used to work for The Nuns (knew how to squeeze a penny) said the strongest union out there is the Ontario Medical Association.
small side bar: there appear to be as many off-shore candidates admitted to medical courses as there are Canadian residents. How do you expect to get the positions filled when 50% or more of your graduates go back to their homeland?
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I doubt all do.
Merritt, BC - ER closed 42 times over two years. The Mayor suggested that graduates of medical, nursing school (RN/LPN) must be posted for two years to a location where there is a need.
Merritt has two modern home trailers which give rent free accn for med pers.
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In part from the building US brain-drain of medical folks telegraphing transition to Canada.
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