Jarnhamar
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Poilievre says he'll pay broadcaster's $75,000 fee for Carney if he'll join French debate
If Poilievre had a security clearance we could see where he's getting all this money.
2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25
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If Poilievre had a security clearance we could see where he's getting all this money.
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That's what happens when you got a HUGE war chest compared to the other teams
RangerRay
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I used to think that it was Trudeau that kept everything wrapped tight, but soon realized it was the PMO crew in short pants (Telford et al). As Trudeau admitted to the ethics commissioner, he saw the PM as being a figurehead while everyone else did the work. Since most Ministers didn’t seem to have much influence on their files, it made sense that the PMO was running everything.
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Well, his COS can’t divulge classified information to him, so if he’s okay with an unelected civilian saying “Trust me Boss, can’t give you the details…but do this…” then sure, it should be ‘enough.’
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All campaign contributions are reported to Elections Canada who scrutinizes those contributions for inaccuracies.
Review and audit
Learn about the role Elections Canada plays in reviewing and auditing financial returns submitted by political entities.
www.elections.ca
How is his security clearance tied to contributions? Perhaps you mistook a lack of financial disclosure, like Carney? Which I believe PP has done.
He can afford the joining fee because the CPC has a massive war chest.
Canadians head to the polls April 28 as PM Mark Carney triggers a spring election
Mark Carney visited with the Governor-General on Sunday to ask her to dissolve the 44th parliament, one day before it was supposed to return
toronto.citynews.ca
"The Conservatives have a sizable war chest for the election after a banner fundraising year, having raised almost $41.8 million in 2024.
The Liberals raised about $15.2 million and the NDP took in close to $6.3 million in donations over 2024 — though the Liberals are likely to see a sizable influx of cash in the wake of their leadership race, which saw Carney alone raise more than $4.5 million in less than two months."
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It's about time someone put the Carney/Brookefield/ China marriage on the table.
Poilievre calls out Carney's China ties after Liberals allege India interference
The Conservative leader said Carney should explain a $276 million loan Brookfield Asset Management secured from the Bank of China
nationalpost.com
Poilievre calls out Carney's China ties after Liberals allege India interference
The Conservative leader said Carney should explain a $276 million loan Brookfield Asset Management secured from the Bank of China
Poilievre calls out Carney's China ties after Liberals allege India interference
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said on Tuesday that they should be .worried about Liberal Leader Mark Carney's ties to China.
nationalpost.com
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Assuming we know the non-conversation-conversation hapoened, cool enough. If we don’t know if it happened, from the outside looking in, how different would it look than Arya?
Carney ‘not privy to exact information’ on why former MP Chandra Arya no longer running as a Liberal | Watch News Videos Online
Watch Carney ‘not privy to exact information’ on why former MP Chandra Arya no longer running as a Liberal Video Online, on GlobalNews.ca
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Assuming we know the non-conversation-conversation hapoened, cool enough. If we don’t know if it happened, from the outside looking in, how different would it look than Arya?
It would come down to how much one trusts the speaker.Carney ‘not privy to exact information’ on why former MP Chandra Arya no longer running as a Liberal | Watch News Videos Online
Watch Carney ‘not privy to exact information’ on why former MP Chandra Arya no longer running as a Liberal Video Online, on GlobalNews.ca
I wouldn’t bet your money on the truth of that statement. Carney has been caught lying on a number of occasions already. Everything he says needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
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Sure but let's put Pierre's India ties on the table too and let Canadians decide. Right now Pierre has more direct links to India while a lot of the accusations against Carney and China are here say at best.It's about time someone put the Carney/Brookefield/ China marriage on the table.
Poilievre calls out Carney's China ties after Liberals allege India interference
The Conservative leader said Carney should explain a $276 million loan Brookfield Asset Management secured from the Bank of China
Poilievre calls out Carney's China ties after Liberals allege India interference
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said on Tuesday that they should be .worried about Liberal Leader Mark Carney's ties to China.
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See what I mean about how much you trust the speaker or not?
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You'll have to put up some links to explain your accusations. Or are you hinging your statement on the single G&M story which can also be considered hearsay?
You should also know that Carney/Brookefield/ China connection is not new. They've been thick as thieves for some years now.
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The Hogue Report
foreigninterferencecommission.ca
The first observation I would like to make from the evidence is that it is true that some foreign states are trying to interfere in our democratic institutions, including electoral processes. This is nothing new and comes as no surprise – states have been trying to interfere with each other’s business since time immemorial. What is new, however, is the means deployed by these states, the apparent scale of the issue and the public discourse on the topic.
I have also noted that our democratic institutions have thus far remained robust:
• Although there are a very small number of isolated cases where foreign interference may have had some impact on the outcome of a nomination contest or the result of an election in a given riding, there is no evidence to suggest that our institutions have been seriously affected by such interference or that parliamentarians owe their successful election to foreign entities. While any attempted interference is troubling, I am reassured by the minimal impact such efforts have had to date.
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The Hogue Report also addressed leaks, like the G&M one.
Greater transparency would ensure that Canadians are not entirely dependent on media reports and leaked information (which can easily be misleading or be misunderstood) to learn about attempts or acts of foreign interference. Leaks are illegal, ill-advised, and must undoubtedly be denounced. The risk of leaks increases if government agencies keep such incidents almost entirely secret, and the dependency on investigative reporting will persist. Of course sometimes the government is justified in keeping its operations secret, and in matters of national security sometimes it is vital to do so. But the national security and intelligence community must work hard to find ways to keep Canadians informed. Properly informed, I have no doubt that Canadians will be able to understand what foreign interference is and help defend Canadian democracy against this threat.
foreigninterferencecommission.ca
The first observation I would like to make from the evidence is that it is true that some foreign states are trying to interfere in our democratic institutions, including electoral processes. This is nothing new and comes as no surprise – states have been trying to interfere with each other’s business since time immemorial. What is new, however, is the means deployed by these states, the apparent scale of the issue and the public discourse on the topic.
I have also noted that our democratic institutions have thus far remained robust:
• Although there are a very small number of isolated cases where foreign interference may have had some impact on the outcome of a nomination contest or the result of an election in a given riding, there is no evidence to suggest that our institutions have been seriously affected by such interference or that parliamentarians owe their successful election to foreign entities. While any attempted interference is troubling, I am reassured by the minimal impact such efforts have had to date.
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The Hogue Report also addressed leaks, like the G&M one.
Greater transparency would ensure that Canadians are not entirely dependent on media reports and leaked information (which can easily be misleading or be misunderstood) to learn about attempts or acts of foreign interference. Leaks are illegal, ill-advised, and must undoubtedly be denounced. The risk of leaks increases if government agencies keep such incidents almost entirely secret, and the dependency on investigative reporting will persist. Of course sometimes the government is justified in keeping its operations secret, and in matters of national security sometimes it is vital to do so. But the national security and intelligence community must work hard to find ways to keep Canadians informed. Properly informed, I have no doubt that Canadians will be able to understand what foreign interference is and help defend Canadian democracy against this threat.
Jarnhamar
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It's not, I'm just being facetious.
I think the people (in general) making the most noise about Poilievres security clearance are also the same ones who said 'nothing to see here' when CSIS first brought the foreign interference allegations forward against the government. For some reason Liberal supporters thought it was waste of time.
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I can't speak for MilEME09, but I'll see your Hogue Report and raise you with the March 2024 NSICOP references (pg 32 here) ...
More hearsay, or less, than these stories, also attributed to unnamed sources in the intelligence community? Especially since I don't see a whoooooooole lot of posts here calling accusations against Team Red "hearsay" because they came from unnamed sources.
A timeline of events that led to the public inquiry into foreign interference
As the inquiry continues with its public hearings in April, a look back at how we got here
www.theglobeandmail.com
The revelations and events that led to the foreign-interference inquiry
As hearings begin on Monday, a look back at the revelations and events that led to the commission
www.theglobeandmail.com
A guide to foreign interference and China’s suspected influence in Canada
What is foreign interference and why is it important? What have we learned from CSIS documents, national-security sources and politicians about Chinese meddling in Canadian affairs? Here’s what you need to know
www.theglobeandmail.com
Again, in the (to steal a term from someone way smarter than me) political Rorschach game, the same shit can look like a very different pile in the partisan eyes of the various beholders, no matter what team jersey they like.
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MilEME09
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Would you prefer the new york times?
India Said to Have Meddled in Canada Party Election
Indian agents and proxies raised money and helped organize support in 2022 for Pierre Poilievre, the Conservative leader who is the main challenger to Prime Minister Mark Carney.
Cbc?
Agents of Indian government interfered in Patrick Brown’s Conservative leadership campaign: sources | RCI
Poilievre's office says it knows nothing about alleged foreign interference
ici.radio-canada.ca
National observer?
Pierre Poilievre gives India’s interference the silent treatment
Canadian Sikh groups point out Conservative Party’s reluctance to ask questions about foreign interference by India
Pierre Poilievre is the only remaining federal party leader who has not gotten security clearance to view evidence on India.
pressprogress.ca
Patrick Brown admits succumbing to foreign interference, after years of being groomed by Indian officials
Patrick Brown admits succumbing to foreign interference, after years of being groomed by Indian officials
thepointer.com
Would you like more?
FSTO
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The 1963 general election was the most egregious act of foreign interference. But it’s fine because it was JFK and the Democrats who pulled out all stops to help Pearson get elected. Though he only got a minority even with all the yankee dirty tricks on his side.
www.theglobeandmail.com
How John F. Kennedy helped Diefenbaker lose an election
Fifty years ago, the U.S. government helped elect the Liberals and Lester B. Pearson
www.theglobeandmail.com
Jarnhamar
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First he misgenders Mr Pants on Fire and now this:
Carney names wrong school when talking about Montreal massacre
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Ouch - especially considering a survivor appears to be running for Team Red.
Not huge, but more than just a few “not huge’ things can pile up into “looky here.”
daftandbarmy
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Shall be known as "Flubber"
Carney says he knows his new riding well, but flubs reference to local neighbourhoods
'Did you bother looking at a map of your riding? Bells Corners is not in your riding'
Carney says he knows his new riding well, but flubs reference to local neighbourhoods
Prime Minister Mark Carney says he knows his suburban Ottawa riding well but could evidently use some brushing up on its geography.
nationalpost.com
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