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2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

I'm not sure if I'm getting accused of pushing a false narrative or anything here but I'll respond just incase.
Not at all. A comment on a twitter thread piqued your curiosity; you asked a simple question in case anyone knew, that’s all. You didn’t try to advance any sort of narrative on it, or share innuendo without fact checking. Once more info came in, clearly you considered and made sense of it. Nothing wrong with that.
 
I’ll break down what it’s about in case you’re truly confused.

For some reason Ghislaine Maxwell/Epstein entered the thread, but we’re hours into an election so I guess that was inevitable. Jarnhamar asked if Carney’s “buddies with Maxwel and her ex boyfriend”. You replied “pictures would suggest so” and posted a few photos of the two of them at the same event. You chose to insert yourself into advancing a “Carney’s associated with Epstein” narrative. MilEME09, having correctly anticipated that someone would try to get some traction with that dreck, posted the Blundell Twitter thread in which points out that that photo is suggestive of nothing more than they were at the same event once, years before her crimes were known. You immediately go into discrediting Blundell himself rather than addressing the material- a definitional hominem fallacy. So I simply asked if you actually read the thread in which the purported link between the two based on that photo is essentially discredited.

If you’re going to contribute to advancing false narratives, expect to be challenged on it. You either already had that picture, or you went looking for it; at absolute best you just didn’t care about veracity or context. Worst case you’re good with spreading misinformation if it helps your side. I’ll assume the former, but if it turns into a pattern it starts to look like the latter awful quickly. Elections are a time for skepticism and critical thinking, especially when something is more outrageous or sensational than usual.

Whatever helps you float your boat buddy.

I don't care about your recriminations. You got the wrong read, but I can't be bothered getting into another back and forth with you over your conspiracy theories.
 
Whatever helps you float your boat buddy.

I don't care about your recriminations. You got the wrong read, but I can't be bothered getting into another back and forth with you over your conspiracy theories.
Nonsense. You saw a chance to hop on a “let’s link Carney with Epstein” train and you got right to it, despite there being source material immediately at hand that cleared it up. I didn’t even go after you at that point; I literally just asked if you read the thread. That’s it. You chose to get your back up at the question, you asked me what I was asking about, and I answered in detail based on what happened in the thread. I note that you don’t actually have any real response to the facts, just a dismissive hand wave.

If you want to be part of the misinformation problem, wittingly or unwittingly, you’ll probably have it pointed out to you from time to time. It might make for a long 37 days.
 
Something I'm confused about.

Several people here, and many more on other SM platforms, have claimed that Carney was Trudeau's "shadow economic advisor" for neigh on 5 years or so, and therefore the economy of Canada will suffer the same under Carney as it did under Trudeau.

However, those people claiming such are also the same ones complaining that Trudeau is an egotistical narcissist who consolidated power within the PMO and ran it like his own little authoritarian dictatorship.

So which is it? Was Trudeau calling all the shots, and Carney will be fresh air (or at least, new air)? Or was Trudeau not entirely to blame for the economy?
JT was a narcissist and liked power, but he was allowed to do that as long as the power faction in the Liberal Party benefitted. As soon as he threatened their power, he was gone. Carney is a more loyal and less flamboyant court prince who will do as he is told.
 
Lets not be too hard on MilEME, he probably just likes planes (and didn't pay attention to the comments) 😄


Of course.

I'm not sure if I'm getting accused of pushing a false narrative or anything here but I'll respond just incase.
A world leader and former jet setting banker CEO being photographed rubbing shoulders with an underaged girl - sex traffickers long time girlfriend isn't nothing to see here. It's a story. We've had 10 years of "nothing to see here" whether it was nothing, or millions of missing dollars, foreign interference being hidden away, reporter being groped, and so on.

Chances are Carney is one of the thousands of others that rubbed shoulders with either one of that POS couple and had no idea children were being sexually assaulted. In the context of a public official running for office it's not crazy to see that picture and ask questions. It comes back to transparency and letting Canadians make informed decisions (I for one would like to know if my party candidate took a trip to Epstein's island).

We're all judged by the company we keep and Conservatives have had to eat some shit sandwiches over photo-ops and handshakes. The explanation from the link Remius posted explains the connection well. Team Carney whining about it is weak because they would do the exact same thing - they should have just left it with the facts, which appear exonerating.

In the last 20 years Poilievre hasn't had many scandals or oh shit moments. Chances of skeletons crawling out of Carney's closet going forward are going to be much higher than Poilievre.

No, you're not guilty of asking, I'm guilty for answering.

I agree 100% with the rest of your post though.

The Carney snowjob the liberals are pushing is obviously having the effect they want. People have short memories. Not even two weeks in and the party that gaslit Canadians for 10 years, has got some people convinced Carney is the messiah.
 
Nonsense. You saw a chance to hop on a “let’s link Carney with Epstein” train and you got right to it, despite there being source material immediately at hand that cleared it up. I didn’t even go after you at that point; I literally just asked if you read the thread. That’s it. You chose to get your back up at the question, you asked me what I was asking about, and I answered in detail based on what happened in the thread. I note that you don’t actually have any real response to the facts, just a dismissive hand wave.

If you want to be part of the misinformation problem, wittingly or unwittingly, you’ll probably have it pointed out to you from time to time. It might make for a long 37 days.


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So socks + hair + social media is all it takes to win these days? Oh yea and printing money so you can promise the world to people.
 
Something I'm confused about.

Several people here, and many more on other SM platforms, have claimed that Carney was Trudeau's "shadow economic advisor" for neigh on 5 years or so, and therefore the economy of Canada will suffer the same under Carney as it did under Trudeau.

However, those people claiming such are also the same ones complaining that Trudeau is an egotistical narcissist who consolidated power within the PMO and ran it like his own little authoritarian dictatorship.

So which is it? Was Trudeau calling all the shots, and Carney will be fresh air (or at least, new air)? Or was Trudeau not entirely to blame for the economy?

Trudeau was the PM and that person drives their government policies, and they remain ultimately responsible for the actions of their government.

Carney was an economic advisor to JT for some time.

One has can reliably assume that JTs economic actions were influenced by the advisory role that Carney gave.
 
So socks + hair + social media is all it takes to win these days? Oh yea and printing money so you can promise the world to people.
In part, yes. Also remember, though, that a shit ton of money spent on ads showing a party leader as not so bad led to a big boost in the polls for a while, so welcome to the wacky world of political info-machinery.

That said, in spite of the looks/soc media combo, a lot can happen between now & Election Day to make all that investment $ down the toilet, too.
 
Trudeau was the PM and that person drives their government policies, and they remain ultimately responsible for the actions of their government.

Carney was an economic advisor to JT for some time.

One has can reliably assume that JTs economic actions were influenced by the advisory role that Carney gave.
ZERO question the buck has to stop with The Guy With The Socks.

To be scrupulously fair to the new guy, do we know JT followed all the advice he was given? If someone like Harper was ok with the guy as governor of the BoC (yeah, I know, different job), he may have had some good ideas. Then again, Harper has refined his take on MC, too.

We’ll see how long MC can play Sorta-Martin-Style Liberal.
 
ZERO question the buck has to stop with The Guy With The Socks.

To be scrupulously fair to the new guy, do we know JT followed all the advice he was given? If someone like Harper was ok with the guy as governor of the BoC (yeah, I know, different job), he may have had some good ideas. Then again, Harper has refined his take on MC, too.

We’ll see how long MC can play Sorta-Martin-Style Liberal.

Would JT have kept MC around if he felt they were at odds in their positions on the country's financial management ?

What is JTs track record on is openness to people in his party disagreeing with him ?

But who knows, this could all be a big nothing burger.
 
I'm sure the people who have their panties in a twist about Carney appearing in photos with epstein are just as incensed about photos of trump and epstein together.
Likely not, but the hypocrisy doesn’t even figure. It’s not about the ‘gotcha’, it’s about wilfully peddling BS in order to smear and mislead.
 
Carney being a photo with Maxell isn't a good look. No one wants to be seen to be adjacent to that monster or her former BF.

Having said that unless someone can show me that MC and the Epstein crew were interactive I will continue to ignore this.

Just like I ignored this one, because its a back ground gotcha moment that feeds people personal biases.

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I'm sure the people who have their panties in a twist about Carney appearing in photos with epstein are just as incensed about photos of trump and epstein together.
When I was a boy, I had my picture taken with Bill Vander Zalm.

I didn’t know any better. I hope people will understand.
 
I'm sure the people who have their panties in a twist about Carney appearing in photos with epstein are just as incensed about photos of trump and epstein together.

Or more relevant to Canada, the whole Dialogon affair.

 
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