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Trump administration 2024-2028

brihard said:
I was just reading this and came to post if it wasn’t already here. This is just… I don’t even know what to say. It’s such a ludicrous and flagrant breach of a lot of different and very serious laws and policies, that it would be hilarious and farcical if it wasn’t so awful. It’s such a ghastly and cavalier mishandling of classified information and war plans. I struggle to believe this is the kind of bush league bullshit running the most powerful country in the world.
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While the TS (likely SCI TK SI etc.) was bad, the complete shite and dismissive attitude against *any number of independent States is far darker than inept intel handling…
 
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Cloud Cover said:
I have never wished so hard for an alternate tragic outcome in a drunken boating accident in Ontario a few years ago.


The US of A is exactly where John Adams wrote about when he argued (successfully) for separation of powers (administration, legislature and judiciary) and where he was an early writer warning quite explicitly of a “tyranny of the majority” without these 3 powers being separate and balancing out. A few decades later, de Tocqueville came around to study American politics ( Democracy in America ) and he warned the American nation was evolving into a social construct where the executive and legislative branch was starting to act upon majority demands to the detriment of a sensible minority which the judiciary might not be able to hold sway. The result of a tyrannical majority, he wrote (along with John Stuart Mill sometime later) was pleasing to emotive politics “like sugar on the nipple” but not rational at all- a lack of utilitarian empathy replaced by demands not of the greater good but the greater self serving electoral strength.

Ideally, a President should not belong to any political party and the legislative majority need not operate beholden to a President.

Donald J Trump, the Republican caucus and the wilful ignorance of the US electorate have blown every safeguard to smithereens. There is no Abraham Lincoln on the foreseeable future. If the Trump family install themselves one way or another in 2028, the situation may not be recoverable.

That being said, we’ve got our own political governance problems here to also worry about. This is not a country without a history of rebellion caused by power imbalance.
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All empires must end.
 
Good2Golf said:
While the TS (likely SCI TK SI etc.) was bad, the complete shite and dismissive attitude against Amy number of independent States is far darker than inept intel handling…
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How about the fact that none of this is ‘track able’ or a matter of eventual public records in the future- it’s ALL dark info.
The NSA will have no info on any of this.
Also, just the way the entire thing went down 100% leads to the conclusion that this was NOT the first time that they had used this system in the past.
How many more times in the past had they used it?
Total bush league shit show over there.
A number of their heads should be on pikes.
 
Czech_pivo said:
How about the fact that none of this is ‘track able’ or a matter of eventual public records in the future- it’s ALL dark info.
The NSA will have no info on any of this.
Also, just the way the entire thing went down 100% leads to the conclusion that this was NOT the first time that they had used this system in the past.
How many more times in the past had they used it?
Total bush league shit show over there.
A number of their heads should be on pikes.
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The NSA will not admit to having any info on this.
 
Czech_pivo said:
How about the fact that none of this is ‘track able’ or a matter of eventual public records in the future- it’s ALL dark info.
The NSA will have no info on any of this.
Also, just the way the entire thing went down 100% leads to the conclusion that this was NOT the first time that they had used this system in the past.
How many more times in the past had they used it?
Total bush league shit show over there.
A number of their heads should be on pikes.
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Did anyone bring their devices outside the US in countries where they could have been compromised? You bet those phones were monitored.
 
Remius said:
Did anyone bring their devices outside the US in countries where they could have been compromised? You bet those phones were monitored.
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Lots of ways to get spyware onto a phone, especially with state backing. Doesn’t need to happen overseas. This is why you just don’t ever mix classified info with non-approved devices.
 
brihard said:
Lots of ways to get spyware onto a phone, especially with state backing. Doesn’t need to happen overseas. This is why you just don’t ever mix classified info with non-approved devices.
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This is secure comms.

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apnews.com

Trump administration invokes state secrets privilege in case over deportations under wartime law

The Trump administration has invoked a “state secrets privilege” and refused to give a federal judge any additional information about the deportation of Venezuelan migrants to El Salvador — a case that has become a flashpoint amid escalating tension with the federal courts.
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Trump administration taking a play out of the Trudeau playbook and declaring state secrets on things which would embarrass/incriminate them.
 
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