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U.S. 2012 Election

On Nov 6 Who Will Win President Obama or Mitt Romney ?

  • President Obama

    Votes: 39 61.9%
  • Mitt Romney

    Votes: 24 38.1%

  • Total voters
    63
  • Poll closed .
What really counts in elections (as in war) is money. This direct comparison article does not tell the entire story, of course. Much of the PAC money will go to downline races, and there are various non monetary assets in play as well. The Legacy Media will be heavily tilted towards the incumbent, while the TEA Party movement provides millions of "ground troops" to spread the message and provide help in the "GOTV" efforts. Both sides are heavily invested in social media, but I think the rules are still evolving so neither side could claim to know how to utilize it to the maximum effect (in fact no one does as of now).

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/01/obama-money-advantage-disappearing/comment-page-2/#comments

Obama money advantage disappearing
posted at 10:25 am on February 1, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

For a year, Republicans have worried about having to face a billion-dollar Re-Elect Obama machine in the fall.  Most have just assumed that whoever wins the GOP nomination will have to contend with being outfunded and outgunned, even apart from the usual Democratic advantages of the news media and entertainment industry.  National Journal punctures this expectation by looking at the pace of fundraising for Barack Obama’s campaign and the outside groups expected to boost him into orbit:

    This year, it’s the Republicans’ adept and aggressive use of super PACs to even the financial playing field, blunting the often-massive money advantages that an incumbent president has at his disposal. With the emergence of American Crossroads, Crossroads GPS and Restore Our Future, a well-stocked Romney super PAC, the Obama fundraising juggernaut no longer looks so imposing.  If Romney is the Republican nominee, he won’t be overwhelmed with a wave of negative advertising, and will have the resources to fight back.

    Take a look at the end-of-year numbers.  The Obama campaign ended the year with $81.8 million cash-on hand – a very strong total.  But the outside Democratic groups, especially the party’s newly-created super PACs, haven’t given him much assistance in the way of reinforcements.  The Democratic National Committee has $12.6 million cash-on-hand to assist. But Priorities USA banked a meager $1.5 million, receiving money from just 42 individual donors in the last six months.  The party’s Congressional super PACs – Majority PAC and House Majority PAC — also didn’t bank much, $1.3 million and $1.17 million, respectively.

    Meanwhile, the Romney campaign ended the year with $19.9 million in the bank, far less than the president’s cash haul.  But when you add in the outside groups, he’s about at even strength.  Romney’s super PAC, Restore Our Future, banked $23.6 million at the end of the year, thanks to funding from venture capitalists aligned with Romney.  American Crossroads, which is poised to play an outsized role in the presidential race, ended the year with $15.6 million cash-on-hand.  And the RNC ended the year with more cash-on-hand than the DNC, banking $20 million.  All told, that adds up to $79.1 million – and it doesn’t include the cash-on-hand from Crossroads GPS, which doesn’t file with the Federal Election Commission.  But based on Crossroads’ announced fundraising totals, it’s logical to assume that they have around $15 million on-hand.

    That brings the combined Obama + Democratic outside group totals to $98.3 million cash-on-hand, with the GOP groups tallying $94.1 million.  Take out the Democratic groups strictly devoted to Congressional activities, and it’s a virtual financial tie.  With labor and environmental groups poised to help Obama’s re-election, Democrats still could hold a narrow edge.  But it’s hardly the cash advantage that would allow Team Obama to run negative advertising uncontested against Romney, without an aggressive response.

The fundraising pace for Obama’s campaign itself, and not the total with the DNC, has actually lagged slightly behind that of George W. Bush in 2004.  The amounts  have also fallen a bit each time in the last two quarters.  I’ve noted that at each disclosure point in 2011 and projected the eventual total to somewhere around $250 million — a substantial number and certainly good enough for a three-month general election campaign, but the billion-dollar behemoth is as likely as a the Loch Ness monster giving an interview over the summer.

That’s not the only advantage disappearing, either.  Gallup released Obama’s job-approval ratings in 2011 by state yesterday, and he only tops 50% in ten plus the District of Columbia:

    In 10 states plus the District of Columbia, a majority of residents approved of the job Barack Obama was doing as president last year, according to aggregated data from 2011. His greatest support came from District of Columbia, Maryland, and Hawaii residents, while Utah and Idaho residents gave him his lowest levels of support — below 30%. …

    With the average state showing a 3.2-point drop in approval between 2010 and 2011, the number of states showing majority approval of Obama did not change much between the two years, moving from 12 states and the District of Columbia in 2010 to 10 states plus D.C. in 2011. Washington state and Rhode Island were the two states that dropped below 50% approval last year.

    However, Obama was on pace to show an increase in majority approval states — to 16 plus the District of Columbia – midway through 2011. But his lower approval ratings in the third and fourth quarters of the year resulted in a net decline in the number of states above 50% approval by the time the year was complete.

The news was actually worse when comparing 2011 to 2010, which wasn’t exactly a banner year for Obama and Democrats anyway.  Obama’s job approval rose between 2010 and 2011 in only three states — Wyoming (where it could barely have gone lower anyway), Connecticut, and Maine.  In key states for the 2012 election in either the Presidential or Senate races, Obama dropped significantly:

    * Nebraska: -6.9%
    * New Mexico: -6.9%
    * Nevada: -5.7%
    * Montana: -5.3%
    * Ohio: -5.3%
    * Colorado: -4.8%
    * North Carolina: -3.2%
    * Florida: -2.2%

The two trends are probably not unrelated, either.
 
I think the 2012 election is pivotal for America, and in a way I am echoing Newt Gingrich.  ::)  I believe that four more years of Obama, most likely saddled with an opposition Congress, can set America back nearly five years - to summer 2008 and another, even deeper Great Recession which can turn into a full blown depression.

Here, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from the National Post is an article that explains the problem:

http://business.financialpost.com/2012/02/02/fed-urges-washington-to-get-grip-on-debt/
U.S. must get grip on debt: Bernanke

Bloomberg News

Feb 2, 2012

By Joshua Zumbrun


Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said the economy has shown signs of improvement while remaining vulnerable to shocks, and he called on lawmakers to reduce the long-term U.S. budget deficit.

“Fortunately, over the past few months, indicators of spending, production, and job-market activity have shown some signs of improvement,” Bernanke said Thursday, according to prepared testimony to the House Budget Committee in Washington. “The outlook remains uncertain, however, and close monitoring of economic developments will remain necessary.”

Bernanke repeated the Federal Open Market Committee’s Jan. 25 statement that the outlook for the economy would likely warrant near-zero interest rates through at least late 2014. The FOMC also established an inflation goal of 2%, achieving Bernanke’s longstanding aim to reduce “public uncertainty” about monetary policy.

“In an environment of well-anchored inflation expectations, more-stable commodity prices, and substantial slack in labour and product markets, we expect inflation to remain subdued,” Bernanke said Thursday.

Reports indicating strength in the labour market, manufacturing and construction spending helped drive the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index up 4.4% last month for the best January since a 6.1% increase in 1997, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The yield on the 10-year Treasury note was little changed at 1.83% Thursday.

‘Frustratingly Slow’

Even so, “the pace of the recovery has been frustratingly slow, particularly from the perspective of the millions of workers who remain unemployed or underemployed,” Bernanke said. “Moreover, the sluggish expansion has left the economy vulnerable to shocks.”

Bernanke devoted half of his speech to discussion of the U.S. budget deficit.

“To achieve economic and financial stability, U.S. fiscal policy must be placed on a sustainable path that ensures that debt relative to national income is at least stable or, preferably, declining over time,” Bernanke said. “Achieving this goal should be a top priority.”

At the same time, Congress should “take care not to unnecessarily impede the current economic recovery,” Bernanke said.

The Fed chairman said progress in payroll growth will be an important determinant to household spending in coming quarters, which in turn will influence the pace of the expansion.

Non-Farm Payrolls

Bernanke noted that the labour market “improved modestly” over the past year. Total non-farm payrolls are forecast to rise by 145,000 jobs tomorrow, when the labour Department releases its January report. The unemployment rate is likely to remain at 8.5%, economists predict, where it was in December, down from 8.7% the previous month.

“We still have a long way to go before the labour market can be said to be operating normally,” Bernanke told the committee. “Particularly troubling is the unusually high level of long-term unemployment: More than 40% of the unemployed have been jobless for more than six months, roughly double the fraction during the economic expansion of the previous decade.”

Manufacturing in the U.S. grew in January at the fastest pace in seven months, according to a report from the Institute for Supply Management. The Tempe, Arizona-based group’s manufacturing index rose to 54.1, from 53.1 in December. Figures exceeding 50 signal expansion.

United Parcel Service Inc., the world’s largest package- delivery company, forecast a 2012 profit that exceeded analysts’ estimates as shipping demand increases.

No Double-Dip

“We certainly are seeing a better U.S. economy than we would have thought back in probably August, September,” said UPS Chief Executive Officer Scott Davis in a Jan. 31 call with investors and analysts. “Back in that timeframe, people were talking about a chance for a second recession. You don’t hear that anymore.”

Still, consumer confidence unexpectedly dropped in January and a gauge of business activity fell. The Conference Board said this week that its confidence index decreased to 61.1, lower than the most pessimistic forecast in a Bloomberg News survey of economists, from a revised 64.8 reading the prior month.

Bernanke noted that consumer confidence “remains at levels that are quite low by historical standards” and that the “pace of growth in business investment has slowed, likely reflecting concerns about the domestic outlook and developments in Europe.”

“There are signs that these concerns are abating somewhat,” he said, “if business confidence continues to improve, U.S. firms should be well positioned to increase both capital spending and hiring.”

The 58-year-old Fed chief said in a press conference last week that a third round of large-scale asset purchases is “an option that is certainly on the table.”

Bernanke’s views were echoed in a Jan. 27 speech by Federal Reserve Bank of New York President William C. Dudley, who said the economy will probably slow this year due to “significant impediments,” and that the central bank “will continue to do its part in supporting the recovery.”

The Fed’s second round of bond buying, or quantitative easing, drew fire from Republican lawmakers when it was announced in November 2010. Among the critics was Republican Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, chairman of the House Budget Committee, who said the purchases risked creating asset-price bubbles and fueling inflation.

Ryan has also called for government spending cuts. He proposed a plan last year to reduce deficits by slicing $6.2 trillion over 10 years from Medicare and scores of other programs including Medicaid, food stamps, farm subsidies and Pell college tuition grants.

Criticism of Bernanke has also flared in the race for the Republican nomination for president, with candidates Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich saying they wouldn’t keep Bernanke as Fed chief. His four-year term as chairman expires on Jan. 31, 2014.

Bloomberg.com


There is nothing to suggest that President Obama has any interest at all in balancing the budget; there is plenty of reason to suspect that he wants to continue to borrow and spend like a drunken sailor - apologoes to the denizens of Navy,ca.  :-*

There is nothing to suggest that there will be major changes in the makeup of the US Congress - the Republicans are almost certain to retain control of the House, they might also get control of the Senate - in which case the GOP could produce a budget which President Obama would likely veto. In the event that we have the same situation as now then:

1. The Senate will not vote a budget for 50 more months;

2. The House will overturn some of Obama's spending plans;

3. There will be a full blown government shut down; and

4. The US will default on some of its debt.

The overall effect will be to shatter the world's faith in America's ability to govern itself and the US will sink into another deep, difficult, socially dangerous recession - this time there will be real riots in the streets: not by children but by unemployed workers and newly homeless people.

In my opinion it is imperative that Americans "suck it up" and elect a Republican team - President and Congress - and get ready for eight to twelve years of austerity and reconstruction. I am not sure the people of the USA have either guts or the brains to do that.

Both Gingrich and Romney are wrong to blame Bernanke for being the messenger; the problem is not the Federal Reserve: it is the people of the USA - the ones who elected Barack Obama and Harry Reid and the Tea Party folks and, and, and ...



 
E.R. Campbell said:
I think the 2012 election is pivotal for America, and in a way I am echoing Newt Gingrich.  ::)  I believe that four more years of Obama, most likely saddled with an opposition Congress, can set America back nearly five years - to summer 2008 and another, even deeper Great Recession which can turn into a full blown depression.

Here, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from the National Post is an article that explains the problem:

http://business.financialpost.com/2012/02/02/fed-urges-washington-to-get-grip-on-debt/

There is nothing to suggest that President Obama has any interest at all in balancing the budget; there is plenty of reason to suspect that he wants to continue to borrow and spend like a drunken sailor - apologoes to the denizens of Navy,ca.  :-*

There is nothing to suggest that there will be major changes in the makeup of the US Congress - the Republicans are almost certain to retain control of the House, they might also get control of the Senate - in which case the GOP could produce a budget which President Obama would likely veto. In the event that we have the same situation as now then:

1. The Senate will not vote a budget for 50 more months;

2. The House will overturn some of Obama's spending plans;

3. There will be a full blown government shut down; and

4. The US will default on some of its debt.

The overall effect will be to shatter the world's faith in America's ability to govern itself and the US will sink into another deep, difficult, socially dangerous recession - this time there will be real riots in the streets: not by children but by unemployed workers and newly homeless people.

In my opinion it is imperative that Americans "suck it up" and elect a Republican team - President and Congress - and get ready for eight to twelve years of austerity and reconstruction. I am not sure the people of the USA have either guts or the brains to do that.

Both Gingrich and Romney are wrong to blame Bernanke for being the messenger; the problem is not the Federal Reserve: it is the people of the USA - the ones who elected Barack Obama and Harry Reid and the Tea Party folks and, and, and ...

Agreed.  The problem is the entire concept of spending money you simply do not have.  Unfortunately, I have serious doubts that the US electorate would be able to handle the sort of austerity measures needed to bring back balanced budgets.  Guts they have plenty, brains... not so much.  This problem requires long term vision and as such, is well beyond anything their current government can handle. 

I can't see any default in their future since their debt (luckily for them) is in the same currency that they seemingly print at will, but Canada will suffer greatly over this unless we can get our oil production significantly improved (working on it!) and shipped to markets other than the US where it can be sold at Brent rather than West Texas rates.

As the US finds more and more of its revenue dedicated to debt interest payments, a dip back into recession seems inevitable and of course drags parts of Canada down with it.  Access to offshore oil revenue may be just what we need to soften the inevitable blow in my opinion.
 
I curious as to how much damage Mitt's faux pas and dismissing the poor will cost him.  I'm sure to Newt it must have been manna from heaven to see Mitt (or Twit) stomp on his gear with golf shoes like that.  From the mouths of knaves...
 
Of course there will be winers and losers if the current administration is reelected as well:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2012/02/02/who-stands-the-most-to-win-and-lose-from-a-second-obama-term/print/

Who Stands The Most To Win - And Lose - From A Second Obama Term

As the probability of President Barack Obama’s reelection grows, state and local officials across the country are tallying up the potential ramifications of a second term. For the most part, the biggest concerns lie with energy-producing states, which fear stricter environmental regulations, and those places most dependent on military or space spending, which are both likely to decrease under a second Obama administration.

On the other hand, several states, and particularly the District of Columbia, have reasons to look forward to another four years. Under Obama the federal workforce has expanded — even as state and localities have cut their government jobs. The growing concentration of power has also swelled the ranks of Washington‘s parasitical enablers, from high-end lobbyists to expense-account restaurants. While much of urban America is struggling, currently Washington is experiencing something of a golden age.

So what states have the most to lose from a second Obama term? The most obvious is Texas, the fastest-growing of the nation’s big states. Used to owning the inside track in Washington during the long years of Bush family rule, the Lone Star state now has less clout in Congress and the White House than in recent memory. Texans are particularly worried about restrictions on fossil fuel energy development, which is largely responsible for robust growth throughout the state.

“Obama now wants to take credit for the increased production that has happened, but [increased production] has been opposed in every corner by the administration,” says John Hofmeister, founder of the Houston-based Citizens for Affordable Energy and former CEO of Shell USA. Hofmeister fears that in a second term, with no concern for reelection, Obama could exert even greater controls on fossil fuel development. This would have dramatic, negative implications not only for Texas but for the entire national energy grid, which includes North Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Alaska and Louisiana. These states fear that the nation’s recent energy boom, which has generated some of the nation’s strongest job and income growth, could implode in Obama’s second term.

Take Louisiana, which is still recovering from Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and the BP oil spill in 2010. The administration’s moratorium on offshore drilling, sparked by the spill, has had a deleterious effect on the state’s energy economy, according to a recent study, with half offshore oil and service companies  shifting their operations to other regions and laying off employees.

Once the moratorium was lifted in 2010, companies have faced long delays for new wells, growing from 60-day delays in 2008 to more than 109 last year  .  “The energy states feel they are being persecuted for their good deeds,” says Eric Smith, director of the Tulane Energy Institute in New Orleans. “There is a sense there are people in the administration who would like this whole industry to go away.”

Many of these same states also worry about the administration’s proposed downsizing of the military. Obama’s move to cut roughly towards $500 billion in defense spending may make sense, but it  threatens places with large military presences such as Texas, Florida, Oklahoma, Virginia, Georgia, South Carolina and New Mexico.

The D.C. metro area might also be hit by defense cuts, but overall the it has many reasons to genuflect toward the Obama Administration. Federal wages, salaries and procurement account for 40% of the district’s economic activity, roughly four times the percentage of any state. Expanding regulation on energy, health care and financial services has sparked a steady job boom in lobbying, think tanks and other facets of the persuasion industry — including among Republicans –at a time when employment growth has been sluggish elsewhere.

D.C. partisans hail their city as the leader of a national urban boom. The district clearly benefits from diminished job opportunities in more market-based economies, particularly for educated 20-somethings.

No place has flourished as much as the capital, but a second term would be favorable to states such as Maryland, which depend heavily on research spending directed from Washington and where federal spending accounts for fifteen percent of the local economy, over seven times the national average. Maryland agencies such as the National Institutes for Health will likely expand under an increasingly federalized health care system — particularly if Democrats gain more seats in Congress with an Obama win.

Other big states that may benefit from a second term include New York, California and Illinois. New York benefits largely from the administration’s Wall Street leanings, despite the president’s recent attacks on financial elite. Even for the non-conspiracy theorists, the administration’s ties to Goldman Sachs appear unusually intimate. Powerful allies like Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer, D.C.’s greatest Wall Street booster, suggest big money has little to fear from a second term.

Overall the administration’s basic policy approach has favored the financial giants. Support for bailouts, seemingly permanent low interest rates, few prosecutions for miscreant investment bankers, the institutionalization of “too big to fail” and easy loans for renewable fuel firms all have benefited the big Wall Street players.

Of course, a Republican victory would not be a disaster for these worthies. Companies like Goldman Sachs are hedging their bets by sending loads of cash to the likely Republican choice, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

But other New York interests, such as mass transit funding, would benefit from the current administration’s  generally pro-urban, green sensibilities. Tight regulations on carbon emissions — increasing the price of fossil fuels — may help the competitive position of New York City, which has little industry left and relatively low carbon emissions per capita, in part due to a greater reliance on hydroelectric and nuclear power.

California also has reasons to root for an Obama victory. Although among the richest states in fossil fuels, particularly oil, the Golden State has become a bastion of both climate change alarmism and renewable energy subsidization. It adamantly won’t develop traditional its energy resources — which would help boost the state’s still weak economy — and Silicon Valley venture firms have eagerly grabbed subsidies and loans for start-ups from Energy Secretary Steven Chu’s seemingly bottomless cornucopia.

Furthermore,  more powerful EPA would make California’s current “go it alone” energy and environmental problems less disadvantageous compared to more fossil-fuel-friendly states, leveling what is now a tortuous economic playing field.

Similarly, attempts to push the state’s troubled high-speed rail line — recently described in Mother Jones as “jaw-droppingly shameless” –  will succeed only with strong backing by the federal government. Under a Republican administration and Congress, Brown’s beloved high-speed line would depend entirely on state and private funding, likely terminating the project.

But no state needs an Obama victory more than his adopted home state of Illinois. To be sure, having a native son in the White House has not prevented the Land of Lincoln from suffering one of the weakest economies in the nation. The state has one of the highest rates of out-migration in the country, according to recent United Van Lines data and Census results.

Even worse, the Land of Lincoln faces a fiscal crisis so great that it makes California look well-managed.  Without a good friend in the White House, and allies in Congress, Illinois could end up replacing long-struggling, now-improving Michigan as the Great Lakes’ new leading basket case. Count Illinois 20 electoral votes in the Obama column.
 
Another news outlet investigates:

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/16662854/2012/02/02/nbc2-investigates-voter-fraud

NBC2 Investigates: Voter fraud
Posted: Feb 02, 2012 2:34 PM EST
Updated: Feb 02, 2012 6:32 PM EST
By Andy Pierrotti, NBC2 Investigator - bio | email

Two elections supervisors are taking action after an NBC2 investigation uncovers flawed record keeping and human error allowing people who are not citizens of the United States to vote.

No one knows how widespread this problem is, because county election supervisors have no way to track non-citizens who live here.

So NBC2 did something election officials never thought to do, and found them on our own.

"I vote every year," Hinako Dennett told NBC2.

The Cape Coral resident is not a US citizen, yet she's registered to vote.

NBC2 found Dennett after reviewing her jury excusal form. She told the Clerk of Court she couldn't serve as a juror because she wasn't a U.S. citizen.

We found her name, and nearly a hundred others like her, in the database of Florida registered voters.

Naples resident Yvonne Wigglesworth is also a not a citizen, but is registered to vote. She claims she doesn't know how she got registered.

"I have no idea. I mean, how am I supposed to know."

Records show Wigglesworth voted six times in elections dating back eleven years.

"I know you cannot vote before you become a citizen, so I never tried to do anything like that," Samuel Lincoln said.

He isn't a U.S. citizen either, but the Jamaican national says he doesn't know how he ended up registered to vote.

"It's their mistake, not mine," said Lincoln.

We obtained a copy of his 2007 voter registration application. It's clearly shows he marked U.S. citizen.

"This is under oath, that document, they are attesting that it is true and by falsifying, it's a third degree felony," said Tim Durham, Collier County's chief elections supervisor.

County supervisors of elections tell me they have no way to verify citizenship. Under the 1992 Motor Voter Law, they're not required to ask for proof.

"We have no policing authority. We don't have any way of bouncing that information off any other database that would give us that information," said Lee County Supervisor of Elections Sharon Harrington.

NBC2: Does that need to change??
Harrington: "I think it needs to be looked at."

Until that happens, the only way supervisors of elections can investigate voter fraud is if they get a tip.

So that's what our list became. After showing them the nearly 100 names we compiled, both county election offices sent letters to each voter, asking them verify citizenship.

"It could be very serious. It could change the whole complexion of an election," said Harrington.
It's important we don't know we know if these folks are here illegal or not, just they are potentially not U.S. citizens who registered to vote.

Voters who received letters have 30 days to show proof of citizenship, or they'll be taken off the registration rolls.

Based on our investigation, both election offices say they'll now request a copy of every jury excusal form where residents say they can't serve because they're not a citizen.
 
If this is true, it is a powerful confirmation of both the "Local Knowledge Problem' and the "Efficient Market Hypothesis". We will see in November...

http://news.ptest.investors.com/Article/600150/201202040805/january-stock-market-indicates-obama-loss.htm

Stock Market Predicts Defeat For President Obama
By PAUL WHITFIELD, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Posted 02/04/2012 08:05 AM ET

It's happened 13 times since 1936. Call it the IBD January Incumbent Barometer.

An incumbent president faces a challenger ... and 13 out of 13 times the stock market picks the winner in January.

Say again?

Here's how it works: When the stock market scores a big gain in January — about 6% or more — the challenger beats the incumbent president every time, or as we shall see, almost every time. When the stock market goes up or down modestly in January — 4% or less in either direction — the incumbent wins almost every time.

This January the Nasdaq rose 8%, signaling a loss for President Obama, according to the IBD JIB.

You can write this off as wishful thinking by Obama's critics, fearful thinking by his supporters, a silly ham-on-wry exercise, or just a coincidence emerging from data mining.

But just as the January barometer for stocks supposedly signals the market's direction for the year, this political January barometer does the same for incumbent presidents with one catch.

The January barometer for stocks has sometimes been wrong. The last time the JIB missed was 1932. Since then, the JIB has been on a roll. Consider the record:

Nasdaq up 5.8% in January 1992, and challenger Clinton wins in November.

Nasdaq up 7% in January 1980, and challenger Reagan wins.

S&P 500 up 11.8% in January 1976, and challenger Carter wins.

In all three cases, the electorate was pining for a change, whether the aftermath of Watergate, the dismal economy of the late 1970s or President George H.W. Bush's failure to keep his "read my lips, no new taxes" promise.

Indeed, the stock market typically looks ahead and reacts before headlines become reality. So there may be more at work than an uncanny streak.

The JIB has been just as good with incumbent victories. In January 2004, the Nasdaq rose 3.1% and Bush won in November. (See table for the complete tally.)

The more modest moves in January signaled an incumbent victory. The big up moves in January signaled a challenger victory.

The exception was 1932. The Dow fell 1.7%, a modest move which should've been good for incumbent Herbert Hoover, according to the JIB. But FDR, the challenger, won.

If Obama is re-elected, he will be the first to beat the JIB since that Great Depression election. But if the JIB performs in its usual near-perfect fashion, look for a Republican victory in November.
 
The legacy media is trying to maintain control of the narrative. Magazine covers of Obama riding unicorns is not likely going to cut it this election cycle, so careful editing of information (how many stories about labour force participation and the U3 unemployment number have you read lately in the lagacy media?) is going to be the name of the game now:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/06/wapoabc-ends-sample-transparency-in-national-polling/

WaPo/ABC ends sample transparency in national polling
POSTED AT 9:50 AM ON FEBRUARY 6, 2012 BY ED MORRISSEY
   
The Washington Post and ABC News has a new national poll out today.  It purports to show that Barack Obama has a 50% approval rating and that he would beat Mitt Romney in a head-to-head matchup.  And heck, that might even be true, except for a couple of problems.  First, this is a poll of general population adults rather than registered or likely voters, so it’s not even a proper polling type for the predictive outcome they claim.

More importantly, though, the poll series has dropped its reporting of partisan identification within their samples.  It’s the second time that the poll has not included the D/R/I split in its sample report, and now it looks as though this will be policy from this point forward.  Since this is a poll series that has handed double-digit partisan advantages to Democrats in the past (for instance, this poll from April 2011 where the sample only had 22% Republicans), it’s not enough to just hear “trust us” on sample integrity from the Washington Post or ABC.

One cannot determine whether Obama’s improvement in this series is a result of the State of the Union speech, as Dan Balz and Jon Cohen suggest, or whether it’s due to shifting the sample to favor Democrats more so than in previous samples.  The same is true for the Post’s report that Obama “for the first time has a clear edge” over Romney head-to-head.  One would need a poll of registered or likely voters to actually make that claim (one has to register to cast a vote, after all), and one would need to see the difference in partisan splits between this and other surveys in the series to determine whether the movement actually exists or got manufactured by the pollster.

Essentially, the overall poll is worthless, and given the track record of this poll series, it’s easy to assume that the reason that the Post has ended its sample transparency is because they have something to hide.

Among the Republicans and independents the Post did survey, Romney has a big lead over the rest of the field, 39/23 over Gingrich, with Santorum coming in at 16% and Paul at 15%.  Since we don’t know the mix between Republicans and independents here, either, and we’re still dealing with adults in the middle of the primaries when the likely voter model should be used, this is also a worthless result.

Update: The description in their news reports show 879 registered voters as a subsample.  However, their sample report only mentions the 1,000 adults of the overall sample, from which Obama’s 50% approval rating is taken, as well as their approval rating for the GOP rhetoric, which is prominently mentioned in the news report.  They do, however, report on both general population and registered voters for the Obama-Romney head-to-head — but again without any indication of the sample composition at all.

And once again, why anyone is polling adults in the middle of an ongoing primary is a complete mystery.  That should be likely voters.
 
Thucydides said:
If this is true, it is a powerful confirmation of both the "Local Knowledge Problem' and the "Efficient Market Hypothesis". We will see in November...

http://news.ptest.investors.com/Article/600150/201202040805/january-stock-market-indicates-obama-loss.htm

VStock Market Predicts Defeat For President Obama
By PAUL WHITFIELD, INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Posted 02/04/2012 08:05 AM ET

It's happened 13 times since 1936. Call it the IBD January Incumbent Barometer.

An incumbent president faces a challenger ... and 13 out of 13 times the stock market picks the winner in January.

Say again?

Here's how it works: When the stock market scores a big gain in January — about 6% or more — the challenger beats the incumbent president every time, or as we shall see, almost every time. When the stock market goes up or down modestly in January — 4% or less in either direction — the incumbent wins almost every time.

This January the Nasdaq rose 8%, signaling a loss for President Obama, according to the IBD JIB.

You can write this off as wishful thinking by Obama's critics, fearful thinking by his supporters, a silly ham-on-wry exercise, or just a coincidence emerging from data mining.

But just as the January barometer for stocks supposedly signals the market's direction for the year, this political January barometer does the same for incumbent presidents with one catch.

The January barometer for stocks has sometimes been wrong. The last time the JIB missed was 1932. Since then, the JIB has been on a roll. Consider the record:

Nasdaq up 5.8% in January 1992, and challenger Clinton wins in November.

Nasdaq up 7% in January 1980, and challenger Reagan wins.

S&P 500 up 11.8% in January 1976, and challenger Carter wins.

In all three cases, the electorate was pining for a change, whether the aftermath of Watergate, the dismal economy of the late 1970s or President George H.W. Bush's failure to keep his "read my lips, no new taxes" promise.

Indeed, the stock market typically looks ahead and reacts before headlines become reality. So there may be more at work than an uncanny streak.

The JIB has been just as good with incumbent victories. In January 2004, the Nasdaq rose 3.1% and Bush won in November. (See table for the complete tally.)

The more modest moves in January signaled an incumbent victory. The big up moves in January signaled a challenger victory.

The exception was 1932. The Dow fell 1.7%, a modest move which should've been good for incumbent Herbert Hoover, according to the JIB. But FDR, the challenger, won.

If Obama is re-elected, he will be the first to beat the JIB since that Great Depression election. But if the JIB performs in its usual near-perfect fashion, look for a Republican victory in November.

Interesting. It's happened 13 times, but the only examples provided are Carter, Reagan and Clinton, where dissatisfaction of the electorate played the big picture issue.

You may as well cut open a goat and sift through the entrails, you'd get as accurate an opinion.
 
Apparently the conservative media and GOP mouthpieces have a new whipping boy.

http://youtu.be/_PE5V4Uzobc

Most of the conservative news outlets had pundits on today slamming the Chrysler Superbowl Ad, crying foul at the attempt to give hope and asking Americans to rally together and pull themselves out of the current economic situation.
 
The reason is simple enough. The fact that bailing out the auto sector saved thousands of jobs and enabled them to restructure themselves into profitability takes away the GOP's ability to factually slog the Obama Adminstration about it. However, I'm sure we haven't heard anything near the last of it, though, since politicians (especially conservatives, it often seems) are loath to let facts get in the way of a good argument. They cannot stand the idea of someone saying "Hey, government intervention, despite being unpalatable, seems to have worked to stabilize the system..."

cupper said:
Apparently the conservative media and GOP mouthpieces have a new whipping boy.

http://youtu.be/_PE5V4Uzobc

Most of the conservative news outlets had pundits on today slamming the Chrysler Superbowl Ad, crying foul at the attempt to give hope and asking Americans to rally together and pull themselves out of the current economic situation.
 
Redeye said:
The reason is simple enough. The fact that bailing out the auto sector saved thousands of jobs and enabled them to restructure themselves into profitability takes away the GOP's ability to factually slog the Obama Adminstration about it. However, I'm sure we haven't heard anything near the last of it, though, since politicians (especially conservatives, it often seems) are loath to let facts get in the way of a good argument. They cannot stand the idea of someone saying "Hey, government intervention, despite being unpalatable, seems to have worked to stabilize the system..."

Do you really believe this Redeye? Or are you just kidding around?
 
Redeye,

How do you know that letting the companies go into receivership, get bought out and restructed (or open the market for upstarts to take their place) would not have worked better?
 
SeaKingTacco said:
Redeye,

How do you know that letting the companies go into receivership, get bought out and restructed (or open the market for upstarts to take their place) would not have worked better?

He knows, because it favours Obama.  So, the answer to the age-old question is this: it is good because Obama did it; Obama didn't do it because it was good.

 
Liberal or Conservative, Democrat or Republican, you have to like this:

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SeaKingTacco said:
Redeye,

How do you know that letting the companies go into receivership, get bought out and restructed (or open the market for upstarts to take their place) would not have worked better?

I don't. However, there's no good historical precedent to suggest it would work. GM, for example, tried to sell its Saturn brand off, and couldn't. Neither have they had much luck with SAAB Auto. I hate the phrase "too big to fail", but the reality is that the scale of the auto industry is such that it'd be hard to break it up, because the whole is worth orders of magnitude more than the sum of its parts. In an economically challenged area like the Rust Belt where the automotive industry is concentrated, the knock-on effects of shuttering the industry would have been absolutely devastating. Perhaps in the long run it might have been better, but throwing what, a half of million people out of work, couldn't be a good thing.

As far as opening the market to upstarts go, this is where that reverence for the free market and perfect competition breaks down. Perfect competition is extremely rare outside of the widget industry in an economics textbook. The idea of upstarts coming into the auto industry is almost laughable. The barriers to entry are staggering, because an upstart won't have the economies of scale or likely the capital necessary to start production, establish a dealer network, and actually compete with established brands. Look at companies like Tesla that have a good product concept, but they simply cannot enter the market effectively. This is the same reason governments offer incentives for things like plug-in hybrids (to bring down the cost to consumers thus stimulating more sales), and why the US Navy and Virgin Atlantic both paid large amounts of money for biofuels - because when the concept is proven to work, demand should eventually trigger those economies of scale.
 
Technoviking said:
Liberal or Conservative, Democrat or Republican, you have to like this:

That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.
 
If you are looking for facts and figures WRT how the auto industry is doing now (especially metrics like cash flow, share prices, car sales etc.) try here.

Killing Saturn made no rational sense; given it was one of the few profitable divisions within GM. OTOH Saturn was upsetting quite a few apple carts in Detroit, so killing it off was probably a political favour (think of the UAW settling some scores while saying "thanks for the $50 billion"). SAAB, despite its cult car status, was pretty much dead (and I'll mourn it, being the once owner of a SAAB 99 Turbo) after GM took it over and made it essentially a rebadge operation for Opal and GM SUV's (the SAAB 93, previous generation 95 and 97). People who valued SAAB for its out of the box thinking were essentially told to get in the box or leave, so they left.

In all probability, a restructured (as opposed to bailed out) GM and Chrysler would be far smaller, leaner and more flexible operations with far healthier balance sheets and products. There were also 10 US automakers in 2008 with products in the advanced prototype stage or limited production, reorganization would have freed billions of dollars in assets that some or all could have bought at bargain prices (along with skilled workers), we could be talking about a "Big 4" or "Big 5" today without a bailout.
 
Thucydides said:
we could be talking about a "Big 4" or "Big 5" today without a bailout.

..or we could be talking every car sold in North America is now made outside our borders, along with those jobs.

I'm not a big fan of President Obama but some of you people are friggin outrageous in your hatred..........smacks of a lot more than just policy to me.
 
Thucydides said:
Killing Saturn made no rational sense; given it was one of the few profitable divisions within GM. OTOH Saturn was upsetting quite a few apple carts in Detroit, so killing it off was probably a political favour (think of the UAW settling some scores while saying "thanks for the $50 billion"). SAAB, despite its cult car status, was pretty much dead (and I'll mourn it, being the once owner of a SAAB 99 Turbo) after GM took it over and made it essentially a rebadge operation for Opal and GM SUV's (the SAAB 93, previous generation 95 and 97). People who valued SAAB for its out of the box thinking were essentially told to get in the box or leave, so they left.

If Saturn was profitable, why were there no takers for it? As I understand it, it was one of their least profitable brands. Despite its intensely loyal customers, it was being folded into the rest of GM. Its "revolutionary" Spring Hill, TN plant was converted into a more conventional plant, and flagging sales led them to start importing Opel Astras to save the brand.

Thucydides said:
In all probability, a restructured (as opposed to bailed out) GM and Chrysler would be far smaller, leaner and more flexible operations with far healthier balance sheets and products. There were also 10 US automakers in 2008 with products in the advanced prototype stage or limited production, reorganization would have freed billions of dollars in assets that some or all could have bought at bargain prices (along with skilled workers), we could be talking about a "Big 4" or "Big 5" today without a bailout.

Gee, that's funny. Smaller, leaner, and more flexible operations with healthier balance sheets sounds pretty much exactly like what's going on right now.

Bought by whom exactly? Again, the bailout effort seemed to stem at the time from the belief that there wasn't likely to be any takers, as I recall.
 
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