Halifax Tar
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Man; UK politics is getting close to what usually see in Greece or Italy, its bonkers.
U.K. General Election, 4 Jul 2024
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Exit poll only right now, but not looking good for the Tories (source) ....
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www.economist.com
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Live tracking by seats via The Guardian (still to fill in as of this post)
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Let's see how close the exit polling is to the final, final numbers ...
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Labour is on course for a huge victory in the British election
An exit poll points to a collapse in the Tory vote
Exit poll shows Keir Starmer on course for landslide UK election victory
Labour forecast to return to power, bringing to an end 14 years of Conservative rule
www.theguardian.com
Exit poll: Labour to win landslide in general election
The poll suggests Sir Keir Starmer's party has won with an estimated overall majority of 170 seats - while the Conservatives, led by Rishi Sunak, look likely to record their lowest seat tally in the party's history.
Live tracking by seats via The Guardian (still to fill in as of this post)
UK general election results 2024: live tracker
Results for the UK’s 650 constituencies will be announced soon. Track how the parties fared, live and in full
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Colin Parkinson
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I have to wonder about the logic of a snap election, was it meant as a way to suicide the current party leadership so they can spend a few years as opposition to sort their shit out or were they that self convinced of their awesomeness? Frankly he have just let the government run quietly for a bit and do just housekeeping stuff and given some time for voters to lose their anger.
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Probably just Hubris... they wanted to be able to enjoy their summer comfortable in the knowledge they'd have jobs to return to. NOT!
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Probably just Hubris... they wanted to be able to enjoy their summer comfortable in the knowledge they'd have jobs to return to. NOT!
And speaking of those who do not have a job to return to . . .
Lettuce have a look at one.
I like the way that UK constituencies announce the count, mostly for the entertainment value. While some have candidates with a deer in the headlights expression, the appearances of Count Binface, the well established Official Monster Raving Loony Party participants and many other odd characters standing next to (and hopefully embarrassing) the 'credible' candidates are a welcome addition to political theatre.
Binface, Beany and Elmo: How did the quirky election candidates fare?
From Count Binface and Captain Beany, to Elmo and a pub in Richmond – here is how the quirky General Election candidates have fared in the […]
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Not wildly out of sync.
| Exit Poll | Final Count | |
| Labour | 410 | 412 |
| Conservatives | 131 | 121 |
| Liberal Democrats | 61 | 71 (72 if Inverness, Skye and West Ross-shire is counted as per article below) |
| Reform | 13 | 5 |
| SNP | 10 | 9 |
| Plaid Cymru | 4 | 4 |
| Green | 2 | 4 |
| Other | 19 | 23 (Independents and the various Northern Ireland parties) |
That's with 649/650 seats declared. The one remaining is in the Highlands; Inverness, Skye and West Ross-shire.
Votes 'discrepancy' delays Highland result until Saturday
Candidates in Inverness, Skye and West Ross-shire have been asked to return for a second recount.
www.bbc.com
SNP concedes defeat in last UK seat to declare result
The Lib Dems are expected to gain Inverness, Skye and West Ross-shire, where a recount has been ordered.
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Wow. That’s some wild vote splitting.And yet, Labour had only 33.9% of the popular vote.
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It will probably be Reform UK (Nigel Farage) that will be most vocal with complaints.
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Large gap between vote share and MPs hits Reform and Greens
Labour's win is the most disproportionate on record, BBC Verify finds, as parties call for change.
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Kind of like…because it’s 2021!!Probably just Hubris... they wanted to be able to enjoy their summer comfortable in the knowledge they'd have jobs to return to. NOT!
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Or they didn't believe the general feeling that ten years, plus or minus a bit, tends to lead to a best-before date?Probably just Hubris... they wanted to be able to enjoy their summer comfortable in the knowledge they'd have jobs to return to. NOT!
Nigel Farange loudly complaining? That’s crazy talk.It will probably be Reform UK (Nigel Farage) that will be most vocal with complaints.
Large gap between vote share and MPs hits Reform and Greens
Labour's win is the most disproportionate on record, BBC Verify finds, as parties call for change.
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So many directions to take this...
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And yet, Labour had only 33.9% of the popular vote.
As I have been soundly told many times on this forum, that has absolutely nothing to do with fair and equitable elections, FPTP is the supreme electoral system.
Reform UK received 4,114,287 votes (3rd Most Votes) and received 5 seats. Lib Dems Received 3,501,040 and received 72 seats.
2024 United Kingdom general election - Wikipedia
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I think they just wanted to get it over with. Trying to move kids in the middle of term is a miserable business.Probably just Hubris... they wanted to be able to enjoy their summer comfortable in the knowledge they'd have jobs to return to. NOT!
They knew what was coming.
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Optimistic take: Labour won what a brief mention I saw today described as a "Potemkin landslide". They won a modest plurality of a low turnout while the conservative vote was split, and a lot of races were close. It's difficult for any party to hold enough voters past three or even two terms in a FPTP parliamentary system. Sunak may have done a great service - rather than drag things out to some statutory deadline, hand over the bag of problems right now and allow conservatives to work on reunifying in one party with an appealing platform with a view to turning out Labour after one term and governing for another two or three themselves. Expect Labour to contribute to an early turnover by doing what governments always do - misread the result, claim an overwhelming mandate, and push unpopular policies as if voters wanted them in rather than wanting the others out.
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What is the likelihood that the kids of UK MPs (particularly Conservative) are attending a public (private) school? Would they even consider changing jobs "mid-term" as a factor in changing their kids' school?
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The eight seats that show how divided Britain is
Labour will enter government with an overwhelming majority, but its success masked a complicated electoral scene
www.telegraph.co.uk
Revealed: The real extent of Reform’s damage to the Tories
Support for Nigel Farage’s party may have cost the Conservatives up to 80 seats, handing Labour a supermajority
www.telegraph.co.uk
Britain is a conservative country, and we let it down
The voters didn’t get it wrong. We did.
www.telegraph.co.uk
Labour won with fewer votes than at any time and with a lower turn out than any election since men were granted universal suffrage in the 1880s.
Starmer won his seat while losing 10,000 voters between 2019 and 2014.
Reform gained 4 million voters all across the UK.
Labour lost voters to the Right (Reform), to the Left (Corbynites), to the Pro-Palestinians, to the Greens and to the center (Liberal Democrats)
The Tories lost voters to the Right (Reform) and to the Left (Liberal Democrats).
Where did people vote for Reform?
Vote share by constituency
0-10%
10-20%
20-30%
30-40%
Reform is second choice many places, including Wales and Scotland.
I think the Tories and Reform are going to have an easier time finding a middle ground by 2029 than Starmer will trying to keep his mob together.
What does Reform need to overtake the Tories? Fewer than 340k voters
Nigel Farage’s party may only have five MPs to its name but, for them, this is only the beginning
www.telegraph.co.uk
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This anthem probably doesn't sit easily with the Red Flag secularists or the Pro-Palestinian faction.
And the green faction of Labour is going to be arguing over fossil fuel and nuclear jobs (including nuclear subs)
While electrical pylons aren't popular anywhere
Green MP opposes 100-mile corridor of wind farm pylons in his Suffolk constituency
Adrian Ramsay, the party’s co-leader, will go against the Government’s net zero plans
www.telegraph.co.uk
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And Starmer, like every British PM since WW2, will be off to Washington to be ratified. I wish him better luck than Liz Truss had.
I am reminded that for 700 years Roman Popes were ratified in Constantinople before the Franks and the Germans got into the battle.
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And finally
The Bann continues to be the border between the Unionists and the Republicans - Antrim and Down are different.
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