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Trump administration 2024-2028

brihard said:
As I’ve said before and will keep saying, we’re watching an oligarchy being built in real time. Which a lot of us probably to some extend anticipated- but the way Musk is diving in so blatantly and openly was a bit of a wild card.
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The irony is that, that side has cried to heaven and earth about George Soros is more than welcoming the current richest man in the world who is overtly influencing gvt…
 
Remius said:
The irony is that, that side has cried to heaven and earth about George Soros is more than welcoming the current richest man in the world who is overtly influencing gvt…
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Tit for tat is the most effective counter-strategy for unwanted behaviour. The political establishment had years to modify its behaviour and did not. Everyone who has overtly influenced government and politicized non-governmental institutions showed the way. Was it reasonable to expect the political right would remain so apathetic forever?

All Musk did was highlight the bill, and then a bunch of people crawled all over it and described what they found, and then a bunch of people let politicians know how they felt about that. Of course it was full of antagonistic provisions, and of course a crowd-sourced effort backed by modern communications spins up quickly. For every "what about the aid funding?" there is a "why was it necessary to hold that up until it could be packaged with a 40% raise for politicians?" The era of passing a bill to find out what's in it may be (at least partly) over.

A so-called "clean CR" should be possible in under 50 pages - maybe under 25 - instead of 1500+.
 
Brad Sallows said:
Tit for tat is the most effective counter-strategy for unwanted behaviour. The political establishment had years to modify its behaviour and did not. Everyone who has overtly influenced government and politicized non-governmental institutions showed the way. Was it reasonable to expect the political right would remain so apathetic forever?

All Musk did was highlight the bill, and then a bunch of people crawled all over it and described what they found, and then a bunch of people let politicians know how they felt about that. Of course it was full of antagonistic provisions, and of course a crowd-sourced effort backed by modern communications spins up quickly. For every "what about the aid funding?" there is a "why was it necessary to hold that up until it could be packaged with a 40% raise for politicians?" The era of passing a bill to find out what's in it may be (at least partly) over.

A so-called "clean CR" should be possible in under 50 pages - maybe under 25 - instead of 1500+.
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Fun fact I learned was that the US Govt hasn’t passed a spending bill in years. They’ve just limped along from CR to CR every 3-4 months. Also, the bill highlights every spending line item in the US govt - so prob not able to be cut to 25 pages.

But hey, Musk is being floated as Speaker to replace Johnson, so I’m sure it’ll all work out 🤣

 
dimsum said:
Fun fact I learned was that the US Govt hasn’t passed a spending bill in years. They’ve just limped along from CR to CR every 3-4 months. Also, the bill highlights every spending line item in the US govt - so prob not able to be cut to 25 pages.
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It has been years since the US passed all of its customary appropriations before the start of a fiscal year, but they do pass appropriations bills. They passed two this year.

I suppose length depends on what is being continued. This one was pretty short.
 
Remius said:
Looks like the latest vote to avert a shutdown just failed
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And, if they shut down, what will that look like?

This is a good summary....



National Defense

Uniformed personnel are exempt from furloughs and would continue to report for duty without pay. Most civilian Defense Department employees would be furloughed.

The Pentagon could continue many contracting activities to support service members under a Civil War-era law called the Feed and Forage Act. Burials and tours at Arlington National Cemetery would continue.

Spy agencies give scant details on how they would be impacted, but the Director of National Intelligence has provided guidance to employees that they’re not automatically exempt from the shutdown.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

What Actually Gets Shut Down When the Government Stops Spending

Federal government shutdowns can be disruptive, with thousands of workers furloughed and most of them not getting paid on time. Taxpayers won’t get calls returned, there may be longer lines at airports during one of the busiest travel weeks of the year and many national parks will close.
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The chief lines of criticism for failure to pass the large bill were: keep the government running (particularly, pay the military people who must remain on duty); pass disaster aid; pass farm aid.

The short bill had all of those, plus something amounting to a two-year pass on the debt ceiling. (The customary Democratic position is that the debt ceiling negotiations ought not be necessary since the spending has already been appropriated.)

So. All 3 criticisms addressed, plus something Democrats should not object to. Republican budget hawks are citing the debt ceiling holiday as their excuse for not supporting the bill. The Democratic spin, though, is going to be interesting, if any of them ever bother to try.
 
Blackadder1916 said:
It was not uncommon for some parents to deliberately expose their children to other children who were going through measles, mumps and chickenpox (the MM and V of MMRV vaccine
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My wife absolutely did that with our daughter when she learned a friend's son contracted measles (or chicken pox - I can't remember). she took her over so they could 'play together'.

Blackadder1916 said:
Not directly related to non-vaccination as the only Canadian jurisdictions that still have BCG vaccination on their schedule are NWT and Nunavut. You could always identify Newfoundlanders and Quebecois of a certain age because their Mantoux test (TB skin test) would be positive. Back in the day (1940s to 1970s) beside those two provinces and some communities in the Arctic, it was once routine for military medical and nursing personnel posted to northern areas to receive the BCG vaccine because of our secondary role of providing service to First Nations.
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We were tested in the late '70s when i worked on FNTs in northwestern Ontario. As I recall, there was a screening 'scratch' test and if you returned positive you went for the second, more definitive, test. My dad had TB in the 1930s. He spent several months in a sanitorium and it kept him out of WWII.
 
brihard said:
As I’ve said before and will keep saying, we’re watching an oligarchy being built in real time. Which a lot of us probably to some extend anticipated- but the way Musk is diving in so blatantly and openly was a bit of a wild card.
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And we think we have a problem with Katie Telford.
 
dimsum said:
As Tywin Lannister says to Joffrey in GOT:

Any man who must say “I am the King” is no true king.

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Though it’s consistent with what Musk has done to date: find something someone else has built that would be of value to him, and buy his way in. In this case it’s just that it’s an executive branch, and now he’s branching out into the legislative via threats of funded primary challenges.

What else would we expect the richest person in the world to do? More money stops being meaningful at a certain point, there’s no product or service he can’t buy. Why wouldn’t he work at buying a government to further advantage himself? We’re already seeing the immediate payoff in terms like pending deregulation of vehicle safety reporting and so on that tears down barriers and guardrails that Tesla is figuratively and even literally crashing into. We’ll see further federal cash dumped into SpaceX. Probably plenty of other stuff that advantages him too.
 
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