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So all we have to do is blow smoke up trumps ass and the problem is solved?
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So all we have to do is blow smoke up trumps ass and the problem is solved?
For anyone thinking our border is the problem.
They seized 23 thousand pounds of fentanyl at the Mexican border this year.
The Canadian border? 43 pounds.
Yes - because Mexico definitely doesn’t have other non-govt…um…let’s call them “agencies” that have a huge say in the country, and control the border areas…Trump claims agreement with Mexico to effectively close border
Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum confirmed that she spoke with Trump, calling it an "excellent conversation."nationalpost.com
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See? That wasn't so hard, now was it?
Yes - because Mexico definitely doesn’t have other non-govt…um…let’s call them “agencies” that have a huge say in the country, and control the border areas…
Note that her comments have nothing to do with any further actions they will take, just stuff they’re doing now. So we can say what we’re doing now and he’s all good?
He probably will, once he realizes that Mexico isn’t changing their stance. And Mexico will put in retaliatory tariffs.Do you think if there are no changes in the current outcomes that Trump won't do anything?
Yes - because Mexico definitely doesn’t have other non-govt…um…let’s call them “agencies” that have a huge say in the country, and control the border areas…
Note that her comments have nothing to do with any further actions they will take, just stuff they’re doing now. So we can say what we’re doing now and he’s all good?
He probably will, once he realizes that Mexico isn’t changing their stance. And Mexico will put in retaliatory tariffs.
Anyways, to add to @Kirkhill’s previous post, more context on the conversation - turns out the Mexican President’s side isn’t as congratulatory.
Mexican President’s Harsh Takedown of Trump Exposes an Ugly MAGA Scam
Claudia Sheinbaum’s response to Trump’s threat of tariffs revealed truths that the president-elect doesn’t want Americans to know.www.yahoo.com
Exclusive: The US Government Fentanyl Case Against China, Canada, Mexico
Canada increasingly exploited by China for fentanyl production and export, with over 350 gang networks operating, Canadian Security Intelligence Service reports
WASHINGTON, D.C. — As the Trump Administration gears up to launch a comprehensive war on fentanyl trafficking, production, and money laundering, the United States is setting its sights on three nations it holds accountable: China, Mexico, and Canada. In an exclusive investigation, The Bureau delves into the U.S. government’s case, tracking the history of fentanyl networks infiltrating North America since the early 1990s, with over 350 organized crime groups now using Canada as a fentanyl production, transshipment, and export powerhouse linked to China, according to Canadian intelligence.
Drawing on documents and senior Drug Enforcement Administration sources—including a confidential brief from an enforcement and intelligence expert who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter—we unravel the evolution of this clandestine trade and its far-reaching implications, leading to the standoff that will ultimately pit President Donald Trump against China's Xi Jinping.
In a post Tuesday morning that followed his stunning threat of 25 percent tariffs against Mexico and Canada, President Trump wrote:
“I have had many talks with China about the massive amounts of drugs, in particular fentanyl, being sent into the United States—but to no avail. Representatives of China told me that they would institute their maximum penalty, that of death, for any drug dealers caught doing this but, unfortunately, they never followed through, and drugs are pouring into our country, mostly through Mexico, at levels never seen before.”
While Trump's announcements are harsh and jarring, the sentiment that China is either lacking motivation to crack down on profitable chemical precursor sales—or even intentionally leveraging fentanyl against North America—extends throughout Washington today.
And there is no debate on where the opioid overdose crisis originates.
At a November 8 symposium hosted by Georgetown University’s Initiative for U.S.-China Dialogue on Global Issues, David Luckey, a defense researcher at RAND Corporation, said: “The production, distribution, and use of illegally manufactured fentanyl should be thought of as an ecosystem, and the People’s Republic of China is at the beginning of the global fentanyl supply chain.”
The Bureau’s sources come from the hardline geopolitical camp on this matter. They believe Beijing is attempting to destabilize the U.S. with fentanyl, in what is technically called hybrid warfare. They explained how Canada and Mexico support the networks emanating from China’s economy and political leadership. In Canada, the story is about financial and port infiltration and control of the money laundering networks Mexican cartels use to repatriate cash from fentanyl sales on American streets.
And this didn’t start with deadly synthetic opioids, either.
“Where the drugs come from dictates control. If marijuana is coming from Canada, then control lies there,” the source explained. “Some of the biggest black market marijuana organizations were Chinese organized crime groups based in Brooklyn and Flushing, Queens, supplied from Canada.
“You had organizations getting seven or eight tons of marijuana a week from Canada, all controlled by Chinese groups,” the source said. “And we have seen black market marijuana money flowing back into Canadian banks alongside fentanyl money.”
Canada's legal framework currently contributes to its appeal for China-based criminal organizations. "Canada’s lenient laws make it an attractive market," the expert explained. "If someone gets caught with a couple of kilos of fentanyl in Canada, the likelihood of facing a 25-year sentence is very low."
The presence in Toronto and Vancouver of figures like Tse Chi Lop—a globally significant triad leader operating in Markham, Ontario, and with suspected links to Chinese Communist Party security networks—underscores Canada’s vulnerabilities.
"Tse is a major player exploiting systemic gaps in Canadian intelligence and law enforcement collaboration," the source asserted.
Tse Chi Lop was operating from Markham and locations across Asia prior to his arrest in the Netherlands and subsequent extradition to Australia. He is accused of being at the helm of a vast drug syndicate known as "The Company" or "Sam Gor," which is alleged to have laundered billions of dollars through casinos, property investments, and front companies across the globe.
Reporting by The Bureau has found that British Columbia, and specifically Vancouver’s port, are critical transshipment and production hubs for Triad fentanyl producers and money launderers working in alignment with Mexican cartels and Iranian-state-linked criminals. Documents that surfaced in Ottawa’s Hogue Commission—mandated to investigate China’s interference in Canada’s recent federal elections—demonstrate that BC Premier David Eby flagged his government’s growing awareness of the national security threats related to fentanyl with Justin Trudeau’s former national security advisor.
A confidential federal document, released through access to information, states, according to the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS): “Synthetic drugs are increasingly being produced in Canada using precursor chemicals largely sourced from China.”
“Preliminary reporting by the BC Coroner’s Service confirms that toxic, unregulated drugs claimed the lives of at least 2,511 people in British Columbia in 2023, the largest number of drug-related deaths ever reported to the agency,” the record says. “CSIS identifies more than 350 organized crime groups actively involved in the domestic illegal fentanyl market … which Premier Eby is particularly concerned about.”
A sanitized summary on Eby’s concerns from the Hogue Commission adds: “On fentanyl specifically, Canada, the United States, and Mexico are working on supply reduction, including as it relates to precursor chemicals and the prevention of commercial shipping exploitation. BC would be a critical partner in any supply reduction measures given that the Port of Vancouver is Canada's largest port.”
But before Beijing’s chemical narcotics kingpins took over fentanyl money laundering networks from Canada, the story begins in the early 1990s when fentanyl first appeared on American streets, according to a source with full access to DEA investigative files.
Stepping back - I’m no legal scholar but isn’t USMCA still in effect until 2026?
So if he imposes tariffs on Mexico or Canada, isn’t he breaking his own deal that he negotiated?
As others have pointed out, cI guess it comes back down to who does one believe?Trump claims agreement with Mexico to effectively close border
Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum confirmed that she spoke with Trump, calling it an "excellent conversation."nationalpost.com
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See? That wasn't so hard, now was it?
It looks like it could be - and I'm sure all the tribunals and appeal processes in place will lead to the same sterling victory and satisfying justice we've seen with U.S. tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber under both Red and Blue Canadian governments going through those same processes.Stepping back - I’m no legal scholar but isn’t USMCA still in effect until 2026?
So if he imposes tariffs on Mexico or Canada, isn’t he breaking his own deal that he negotiated?
Low hanging fruit question right there - we KNOW the answer to that one... Or is there room for lawyers to make a dollar?
Not sure about the first bit of your statement,,, Cartels spring to mind.Yes - because Mexico definitely doesn’t have other non-govt…um…let’s call them “agencies” that have a huge say in the country, and control the border areas…
Note that her comments have nothing to do with any further actions they will take, just stuff they’re doing now. So we can say what we’re doing now and he’s all good?
sure I think its hilarious. Does it have to be the PM or can any Canadian tweet out to the Trump that we've got it covered and we can move on to the next tantrumMayhap.
Do you want to find out?
Sam Cooper's take on Trump's interest in Canada on Fentanyl
Follow the money (and the safe havens).
Exclusive: The US Government Fentanyl Case Against China, Canada, Mexico
Canada increasingly exploited by China for fentanyl production and export, with over 350 gang networks operating, Canadian Security Intelligence Service reportswww.thebureau.news
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The Markham Connection.
There will be more.sure I think its hilarious. Does it have to be the PM or can any Canadian tweet out to the Trump that we've got it covered and we can move on to the next tantrum
If N America hadn’t outsourced much of its manufacturing capabilities to China….So…
Thousands of Trump Bibles were printed in China as he campaigned against trade practices
Thousands of copies of Donald Trump’s “God Bless the USA” Bible were printed in China, a country that the former president has repeatedly accused of stealing American jobs and engaging in unfair trade practices.www.pbs.org
These will get expensive under the tariffs on Chinese stuff…
In which case, maybe Justin should say that we’re going to build a wall and that the U.S. is going to pay for it.Hell, the complaint from the CAN / US border should be from the Canadian side, with the guns and people going north, not south.