The War in Ukraine

[OldSolduer]

Likely not used to having live ammunition

Perhaps a deliberate act?

 

[KevinB]

same old same old from Biden though isnt it? tells Russia about new rules. Russia moves assets out

To be fair, the WH, Pentagon, nor the State Dept didn’t announce that.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Likely not used to having live ammunition

We had a couple of M79 NDs in the cuds in NI. One even went through the window of a local hotel and landed at the feet of some curious tourists.

In both cases the grenades were stopped by 1) a bale of hay and 2) curtains, within the arming distance, so didn't detonate.

This guy must have launched it from further than 15-20metres..

 

[KevinB]

This guy must have launched it from further than 15-20metres..

Well you’re making the mistake of assuming that Russian/Chinese/NK ammo safety systems work.

They had terrible issues with AGS-17’s for a while having detonations during chambering, and the belt’s sympathetic detonation thereafter.

 

[Maxman1]

Well you’re making the mistake of assuming that Russian/Chinese/NK ammo safety systems work.

They had terrible issues with AGS-17’s for a while having detonations during chambering, and the belt’s sympathetic detonation thereafter.

And assuming their grenades have arming safeties.

 

[Maxman1]

We had a couple of M79 NDs in the cuds in NI. One even went through the window of a local hotel and landed at the feet of some curious tourists.

In both cases the grenades were stopped by 1) a bale of hay and 2) curtains, within the arming distance, so didn't detonate.

This guy must have launched it from further than 15-20metres..

On my M72 range, the relay before me had someone fire into the ground less than 10 metres in front of the firing line, and his excuse was that all the training M72s he had used were missing the front sight, so he assumed he didn't need to use it.

 

[OldSolduer]

Well you’re making the mistake of assuming that Russian/Chinese/NK ammo safety systems work.

They had terrible issues with AGS-17’s for a while having detonations during chambering, and the belt’s sympathetic detonation thereafter.

During WW 2 factory workers in occupied territories would sabotage weapons and ammo.

 

[GK .Dundas]

During WW 2 factory workers in occupied territories would sabotage weapons and ammo.

I suspect that this has more to do with Russian/ Soviet quality control operating at it's usual high standards of efficiency....

 

[RangerRay]

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-lifts-ban-ukraine-using-us-arms-strike-inside-russia-2024-11-17/

About bloody time!

 

[daftandbarmy]

About bloody time!

Gee, I wonder what one of their first targets might be?

 

[Skysix]

Gee, I wonder what one of their first targets might be?

Out of range of promised NATO weapons but well within range of Ukrainian drones. But it would be imprudent and unwise to hit the Kremlin or St Basil's. Putins palaces? Sure, Go For It.

 

[OldSolduer]

Out of range of promised NATO weapons but well within range of Ukrainian drones. But it would be imprudent and unwise to hit the Kremlin or St Basil's. Putins palaces? Sure, Go For It.

The dachas of his supporters are fair game too

 

[KevinB]

It would have been nice if those was authorized several months ago.

Hundreds of Russian Military Objects Are in Range of ATACMS

This interactive tool allows users to inspect 225 known Russian military objects in Russia that are in range of Ukrainian ATACMS.

storymaps.arcgis.com

 

[Skysix]

ATACMS, Scalp and Storm Shadow. A lot of uneducated press release style media hype with no critical evaluation or analysis about essentially another minor, tactical level decision. Limited to the shortest range of the long range weapons and in Kursk only. Such a spineless action by the president of (allegedly) the defender of freedom and the worlds only superpower.

 

[MilEME09]

ATACMS, Scalp and Storm Shadow. A lot of uneducated press release style media hype with no critical evaluation or analysis about essentially another minor, tactical level decision. Limited to the shortest range of the long range weapons and in Kursk only. Such a spineless action by the president of (allegedly) the defender of freedom and the worlds only superpower.

limiting to kursk is rather useless as a lot of assets have been moved out of kursk, that said they can put the kursk airfield which has been used as a FOB for helicopters out of action, as well as rail bridges and other assets that actually go into belgorod which could cause major supply issues for the russian forces fighting in Kharkiv and northern Luhansk

 

[McG]

1000 days into a three day war.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1858601146325045285

 

[Czech_pivo]

It would have been nice if those was authorized several months ago.

Hundreds of Russian Military Objects Are in Range of ATACMS

This interactive tool allows users to inspect 225 known Russian military objects in Russia that are in range of Ukrainian ATACMS.

storymaps.arcgis.com

Its a bit like the Nazi's having the V2 in the fall of '44 instead of say spring of '42.

 

[OldSolduer]

I'm cautiously optimistic this will not escalate.....but it just might.

 

[MilEME09]

I'm cautiously optimistic this will not escalate.....but it just might.

Really given what russias done, anything short of direct western military engagement is a measured response.

 

[KevinB]

Really given what Russia has done, anything including direct western military engagement is a measured response.

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