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This gets a new thread because I think the topic should be seperate from the usual Mid-East scrum.
Ahh...but is this necessarily true? I used to believe the same thing, but now that thesis just doesn't make sense, especially in light of the conflicts we find ourselves in today. Martin van Crevald believes this statement to be untrue; this passage is from one of his best works which, although 15 years old now, seems to be bang on with regards to the way conflict is unfolding.
Retired British General Sir Rupert Smith's new book The Utility of Force, which begins with the bold statement that "War no longer exists", is an update of sorts to van Crevald's theory.
Discuss.
Cheers,
Infanteer
paracowboy said:religion is nothing more than a means whereby a select few use the gullibility of the many to enforce their own agenda on others - which inevitably becomes "how do I get more power?" resulting in war.
Religion is nothing but a mask for politics.
Ahh...but is this necessarily true? I used to believe the same thing, but now that thesis just doesn't make sense, especially in light of the conflicts we find ourselves in today. Martin van Crevald believes this statement to be untrue; this passage is from one of his best works which, although 15 years old now, seems to be bang on with regards to the way conflict is unfolding.
No doubt cynics will argue that goals such as justice and religion are mere pious smokescreens, since, once the verbiage is stripped away, always and everywhere selfish considerations pertaining to the community's interest may raise their ugly head. This charge in is neither original nor unfounded: all too often right merely serves as a cover for might. However, it can also be put upside down. If modern strategic thought views rationality in terms of reducing justice and religion to the underlying interest, then the same intellectual meat-grinder is capable of reducing interest to underlying religious or legal principles. For example, was it American economic and political interest that led to "Manifest Destiny" and the subjugation of a continent? Or was it the quasi-religious idea of "Manifest Destiny" that translated itself into economic and political interests? We may turn the question over and over, sprinkling it with footnotes as we go along; any answer that does not take both sides into account will do an injustice to human nature.
To conclude, the contemporary strategic premise that sees wars as making sense only when they are fought for reasons of policy or interest represents a point of view that is both Eurocentric and modern. At best it is applicable only to the period since 1648, when war was conducted predominately by sovereign states that in turn were supposed to base their relations on power rather than on religion, or law, or - as in numerous primitive societies - kinship. As an explanation of the more remote past, the premise is either meaningless or much too narrow. As a guide to the future, it is almost certainly misleading. To apply it to the wrong conflict can be positively dangerous. As recent events have shown time and again, to believe that justice and religion are less capable of inspiring people to fight and die than is interest is not realism but stupidity.
Worse still, ordinary Clausewitzian thought is incapable of coming to grips with what in some ways is the most important form of war, namely, one whose purpose is existence. Confronted with such a war the entire strategic structure begins to show cracks. The very idea of policy, implying as it does calculations of the cost-benefit type, becomes inappropriate, the proof being any number of cases when modern states, from the Americans in Vietnam to the Israelies in Lebanon, lost heavily because they went to war with strategic consideration in mind. All of which boils down to saying that policy and interest, even rationality itself, change from place to place and from time to time. They themselves form part of the war convention: neither eternal nor to be taken for granted, and far from capable of providing self-evident clues for the conduct of war.
Martin van Crevald
The Transformation of War, pp. 155-156
Retired British General Sir Rupert Smith's new book The Utility of Force, which begins with the bold statement that "War no longer exists", is an update of sorts to van Crevald's theory.
Discuss.
Cheers,
Infanteer