Teen Walmart worker found dead at store in mysterious oven incident - Halifax

This sounds horrible.

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A teenage Walmart employee was found dead at her Canadian superstore in a mystery reportedly involving a large baking oven.

The 19-year-old worker was found around 9:30 p.m. Saturday at a Walmart in Halifax, Nova Scotia, according to local police, who said Occupational Health and Safety was called in to help in the “sudden death” investigation.

While Halifax cops said Monday that “the cause and manner of death” were still under investigation, multiple sources told Global News that it involved a large baking oven that was still on when authorities arrived.

Global News identified the teenager as a member of the Sikh community.

 

[daftandbarmy]

@Jarnhamar - This is an excellent demonstration that makes is clear how she was murdered...

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[Fishbone Jones]

There's a video floating around from a Walmart employee showing how their ovens work. Looks virtually impossible to get lo ked inside by accident, someone has to close and lock the door from the outside.

They are still required to have an operable means of opening the door from the inside. There should be safe operating instructions and training. If there is any chance in the universe of someone getting stuck inside, there should be an emergency alarm/ shutdown button on the inside. This should be a relatively short investigation, then brief writing for legal and a myriad of other procedures. It'll likely be at least a year before it gets to court. The Health & Safety guys have to wait until the police determine there is no foul play involved before the case becomes theirs. If there was an indication of the make and model of oven, we might be able to look further. But as of now, it's just guessing and not really worth trying to figure out what happened. The investigation will hinge on the equipment, as well as policy and procedures, including training.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

@Jarnhamar - This is an excellent demonstration that makes is clear how she was murdered...

Noop Humor on Instagram: "Oven at Walmart bakery in California Do survey in bio, claim upto 1000$ coupons - @chrisbreezie559"

Not really. That store is in the states. This happened in Canada. Not necessarily the same equipment. Jumping to murder is a mugs game at this point.

 

[suffolkowner]

I would have thought the oven was a standard thing with all safety features included. Walmart isnt exactly a mum and pop operation running in the backwoods somewhere using some 1950s tech

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I would have thought the oven was a standard thing with all safety features included. Walmart isnt exactly a mum and pop operation running in the backwoods somewhere using some 1950s tech

One would think, but you'd be surprised the stuff I've seen.

 

[GR66]

I would have thought the oven was a standard thing with all safety features included. Walmart isnt exactly a mum and pop operation running in the backwoods somewhere using some 1950s tech

Walmart has been in operation since 1962 and has been expanding ever since. Not all stores opened at the same time so the same equipment might not have been available when different stores were opened. Also, even if Walmart had a particular model as "standard" for new stores that open at any given time it doesn't mean that they would have gone back and retrofitted older stores with the new models.

Keep in mind as well that Walmart is a multinational corporation with separate corporate structures in each country. Those different countries are likely to have different standards and regulatory requirements as well as different OEM vendors that supply various equipment types in each country (or even each region within a given country).

 

[suffolkowner]

Walmart has been in operation since 1962 and has been expanding ever since. Not all stores opened at the same time so the same equipment might not have been available when different stores were opened. Also, even if Walmart had a particular model as "standard" for new stores that open at any given time it doesn't mean that they would have gone back and retrofitted older stores with the new models.

Keep in mind as well that Walmart is a multinational corporation with separate corporate structures in each country. Those different countries are likely to have different standards and regulatory requirements as well as different OEM vendors that supply various equipment types in each country (or even each region within a given country).

Walmart has been in Canada since 1962?

It just seems odd to me

 

[GR66]

Walmart has been in Canada since 1962?

It just seems odd to me

No...Walmart was established in the US in 1962. They didn't come to Canada until 1994. That being said my comment remains the same...not all US Walmarts will have the same equipment just as all Canadian Walmarts will not have the same equipment.

 

[suffolkowner]

No...Walmart was established in the US in 1962. They didn't come to Canada until 1994. That being said my comment remains the same...not all US Walmarts will have the same equipment just as all Canadian Walmarts will not have the same equipment.

im not curious about US Walmarts.

How the equipment varies from store to store and province to province though is interesting. It will depend on their modernization approach I imagine. I wonder if they even have any of these ovens that would be 30 yrs old?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

im not curious about US Walmarts.

How the equipment varies from store to store and province to province though is interesting. It will depend on their modernization approach I imagine. I wonder if they even have any of these ovens that would be 30 yrs old?

Stores like Walmart operate on efficiency and bottom line. I,doubt they would still be using equipment 30 years old when there is better, less costly to operate, equipment available. Even if the store is an independent franchise, corporate would still dictate what equipment is acceptable.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

I've seen similar ovens as the one pictured above and they are used to keep food warm and a person could barely stand inside one. Also, if you look at the door there is that toggle which I think is a safety feature. If somehow looked inside you turn it and the outside lock falls off and you can push the door open

I think the oven involved in this incident is much larger, similar in size to walk-in freezers found in restaurants/large kitchens, etc.

Anyway, just my speculations until more details are available.

 

[NavyHopeful]

It may be important to everyone speculating here that this particular Walmart has been under renovations for quite some time now. There have been areas of the store cordonned off for repairs / upgrades, and the rest of the store was usually busy as all hell, based on the central location of the store and it's proximity to a major public transit hub.

Don't know if those facts will end up in whomever's investigation, but since I'm not a cop or an investigator, I won't worry about the details and I'll wait for the whole story to come out... eventually.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

It may be important to everyone speculating here that this particular Walmart has been under renovations for quite some time now. There have been areas of the store cordonned off for repairs / upgrades, and the rest of the store was usually busy as all hell, based on the central location of the store and it's proximity to a major public transit hub.

Don't know if those facts will end up in whomever's investigation, but since I'm not a cop or an investigator, I won't worry about the details and I'll wait for the whole story to come out... eventually.

Areas of the store under renovation or construction are still covered under the Safety Act the same as any other workspace.

It would've started out as a police investigation. Once the police decide there was no foul play the investigation would be handed to the Health and Safety Inspector.

 

[lenaitch]

Areas of the store under renovation or construction are still covered under the Safety Act the same as any other workspace.

It would've started out as a police investigation. Once the police decide there was no foul play the investigation would be handed to the Health and Safety Inspector.

It actually would have started out with the police assisting in a Coroner's investigation with a parallel criminal investigation. Once the police determine there is no foul play, it is still the coroner's investigation until s/he says otherwise. The Ministry of Labour has their own investigators to conduct their regulatory investigation.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

It actually would have started out with the police assisting in a Coroner's investigation with a parallel criminal investigation. Once the police determine there is no foul play, it is still the coroner's investigation until s/he says otherwise. The Ministry of Labour has their own investigators to conduct their regulatory investigation.

I'm a retired MOL OHS Inspector. Just trying to keep things simple.

 

[Good2Golf]

I'm a retired MOL OHS Inspector. Just trying to keep things simple.

FJ, aren’t you the guy that would ding construction workers for not using proper shoring during excavation?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

FJ, aren’t you the guy that would ding construction workers for not using proper shoring during excavation?

That's another side of the office. I was industrial and took care of everything that wasn't construction. Factories, stores, offices, tree cutters, greenhouses, controlled burns, etc. Construction does anything concerning construction sites and projects as well as roofers. It's a tad more involved but that’s a general description. The third party in the office is Employment Standards. They do worker hours, pay, dismissals, holiday disputes, disputes with comp, etc. Outside our office, but still MOL is WSIB.

 

[daftandbarmy]

That's another side of the office. I was industrial and took care of everything that wasn't construction. Factories, stores, offices, tree cutters, greenhouses, controlled burns, etc. Construction does anything concerning construction sites and projects as well as roofers. It's a tad more involved but that’s a general description. The third party in the office is Employment Standards. They do worker hours, pay, dismissals, holiday disputes, disputes with comp, etc. Outside our office, but still MOL is WSIB.

Waiting for your thoughts on all the collapsing and murderous cranes in Vancouver

Crane appears to drop load in Vancouver, triggering investigation - BC | Globalnews.ca

Police and WorkSafeBC watchdog were called to a job site on East Hastings Street near Glen Drive where the crane reportedly dropped a load of steel beams.

globalnews.ca

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Waiting for your thoughts on all the collapsing and murderous cranes in Vancouver

Crane appears to drop load in Vancouver, triggering investigation - BC | Globalnews.ca

Police and WorkSafeBC watchdog were called to a job site on East Hastings Street near Glen Drive where the crane reportedly dropped a load of steel beams.

globalnews.ca

I can spit that hook right now. That's construction. Give the case to them.
I'd need more information. Off the top of my head, what was the operator's training, are equipment inspections up to date, were operating procedures followed.

This link is for Ontario, most provinces are similar. It gives some of the requirements for operation of tower cranes. The Inspector would likely order the employer or constructor to produce documentation covering most of these points. Technical guideline on requirements for cranes at construction projects

I can't speculate what happened without more information. Two main points to start would be equipment failure or operator error.

 

[Good2Golf]

I can't speculate what happened without more information. Two main points to start would be equipment failure or operator error.

…or SOPs, if for instance nylon web asking was in use, where cable strops and metal clamps were more appropriate…