Tears of the Sun

[Enzo]

Nick Chinlund‘s character, "Slo" was carrying a laptop. It was used to locate and track the positions of the Nigerian troops who were pursuing the SEAL team.

I‘m assuming that this was a piece of equipment that was receiving telemetry from a satellite. Does anyone know if this is the case? If so, what is this equipment and what are it‘s capabilities? Or is this just wishful thinking by the producers?

 

[Infanteer]

Didn‘t they have that in the Millenium Falcon?

 

[Korus]

Well, first it involved implanting GPS in each and every one of their enemies, so the sattelites could track them. (That‘s why I line my helmet with tinfoil.. so the sattelites can‘t read my mind)

That‘s the only way the F/A-18s could fire their napalm tipped AIM-120 AMRAAMS at the ground troops.

 

[stukirkpatrick]

However those F18s were quite advanced...

How else would they be able to dock with an in-flight ammo plane to load these amazing missiles that they neglected to take off with? :evil:

 

[Enzo]

I‘m going to assume that there isn‘t anything like that then eh? Thanks for answering my question.

PS

You forgot to mention the shot of Willis with his aimpoint on backwards.

 

[Slim]

I still enjoyed the movie...Even though I really doubt whether the Seals would have been picked up by two helicopters configured for ASW ops...Still a good flick.

And you gotta remember when Harry Humphries ( the tech advisor) was a Seal they didn‘t have all the jammie kit.

 

[Korus]

Well, they where operating off a carrier, and carriers have seahawks.. I don‘t know about the seahawk‘s troop carrying capabilities.

But yeah, I actually liked that movie too. Another movie I liked was "Behind Enemy Lines".. It‘s got good special effects, but I really have to look beyond all the inaccuracies.

 

[Enzo]

Really Korus? Sounds like you should be in the Mary Jane forum then

 

[East Side Soprano]

Originally posted by Korus:
[qb]That‘s the only way the F/A-18s could fire their napalm tipped AIM-120 AMRAAMS at the ground troops. [/qb]

Korus, the AIM-120 AMRAAM is an AIR TO AIR missile. No way the F/A-18‘s were shooting AMRAAMS at ground targets. Those were more likely to be some type of other miscellaneous weaponry (most likely something made up for the movie), but definitely not AMRAAMS.

 

[Infanteer]

I think that was the point of joke, Einstein...we all watch TLC

 

[GrahamD]

Tears of the Sun?

Wasn‘t that a documentary filmed by imbedded journalists?

 

[gate_guard]

Korus,
"Behind Enemy Lines"? I‘m sorry but I‘ve got to disagree w/ you there. Yeah, it went a little beyond small "inaccuracies" when the pilot "dude" made it through a field of bouncing betty‘s with nary a scratch. I loved how they portrayed the Marines too, since when is a mission voluntary? And etc, etc, etc, explosions are a dime a dozen these days, what impresses me is when a military based movie actually tries to make things realistic without falling into the Hollywood action-movie type crap. Whatever, just my opinion.

 

[Korus]

hah, yeah, but I try not to consider movies like that as ‘war‘ movies.. just action movies with lots of military kit...

 

[Slim]

Originally posted by Korus:
[qb] Well, they where operating off a carrier, and carriers have seahawks.. I don‘t know about the seahawk‘s troop carrying capabilities.
[/qb]

A seahawk can carry 12 to 15 Crunchies ( Infantry) inside them...That‘s not what I was getting at.

The ASW kit is a tad expensive and I don‘t think they would risk exposing that stuff to ground fire or letting a third world nation unfriendly to the U.S. get their hands on it. Thats all.

Also as I understand it the ASW kit has to be put in by the factory on shore so to speak. Its not 2 sailors and a couple of different size sockets rigging the thing up...

Cheers
Slim :crybaby:

 

[EX-STRAT]

It‘s Hollywood boys, sit back eat popcorn and take it in. 99% of viewers are civilians who just like the action and thats what sells tickets!

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

With regard to carrier based Seahawks...not all are fitted for ASW. A carrier operates with escorts and those helos on the escorts are predominately for ASW. The Seahawks in Tears of the Sun , I didn‘t see evidence of sonobuoy launchers, dipping sonar or rails for torpedoes so that leads me to believe they were your standard ‘Hawk.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

I will never forget my partner at work saying he did‘nt like Saving Private Ryan because they ruined a good war story with all the gory stuff at the begining. It‘s moments like that when you realize a lot of people really don‘t know anything different than what they watch in films. CHEERS

 

[Enzo]

EX-STRAT great pic.

Monkhouse, walking out of Natural Born Killers years ago I overheard this, "I didn‘t like it when they were shooting people with those shotguns, was all that blood really necessary?"

Sums it up eh.

 

[Slim]

Originally posted by Ex-Dragoon:
[qb] With regard to carrier based Seahawks...not all are fitted for ASW. [/qb]

TND

Before I even start please let me say that I realize full well that an army guy taking on a navy guy about navy kit is really, REALLY asking for it. With that in mind, here I go. ( please don‘t be hard on me when you prove me wrong.)

I believe that the two Seahawks in that movie have a surface search radar dome mounted underneath the main body of the aircraft. I think that the aircraft themselves were from a reserve Sqn in Hawaii. I did look the kit up in a Janes book but readily admit I am no expert.

I am however somewhat curious as to what those large domes are for as I thought they were ASW mounted something-or-others.

Cheerfully asking for it.
Slim

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Geez Slim now I will have to go see the movie again as I don‘t recall the dome.