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Sacrifice Medal Mega Thread

Which do you prefer


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well here it is,  it's truly official now, included both the english and french text for my franco bretheren.  I'll check tommorrow about the wear of medals,  it has been my understanding that medals "shall" be worn,  but I like to check the book on these things, I have been wrong before.



FROM: NDHQ CMP OTTAWA
DTG: R 291437Z AUG 08
SUBJ: 291437Z AUG  08  RR CANFORGEN 163/08 SACRIFICE MEDAL
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RCWMFYS RCWMHBS RCWMHVS RCWMMFS RCWMMGA RCWMNHS RCWMNMS RCWMPCA
RCWMPJA RCWMRGS RCWMTRS RCWMWGS RCWMWIS RCWMWVA RCWMYKS.
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R 291437Z AUG 08
FM NDHQ CMP OTTAWA
TO CANFORGEN
BT
UNCLAS CANFORGEN 163/08 CMP 072/08
SIC WAK
SECTION 1 OF 2
SUBJ: 291437Z AUG  08  RR CANFORGEN 163/08 SACRIFICE MEDAL
BILINGUAL MESSAGE/MESSAGE BILINGUE
REFS: A. PC 2008-415, 29 AUG 2008
B. CANFORGEN 106/00 ADMHRMIL 064 081930Z SEP 00
1. HER EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR GENERAL AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF
CANADA HAS ANNOUNCED THAT HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN HAS APPROVED THE
CREATION OF THE SACRIFICE MEDAL (SM) AT REF A
2. THE SM WILL BE AWARDED TO CF PERSONNEL, PERSONNEL OF ALLIED
FORCES ON EXCHANGE WITH THE CF AND CANADIAN CIVILIANS WORKING UNDER
THE AUTHORITY OF THE CF WHO, ON OR AFTER 7 OCT 01, DIED OR WERE
WOUNDED UNDER HONOURABLE CIRCUMSTANCES AS A DIRECT RESULT OF HOSTILE
OR PERCEIVED HOSTILE ACTION PROVIDED THE WOUNDS REQUIRED TREATMENT
BY A PHYSICIAN (MO) AND THE TREATMENT IS RECORDED
PAGE 2 RCCLHAV6006 UNCLAS CANFORGEN 163/08
3. ELIGIBLE CASES INCLUDE:
A. DEATH OR WOUNDS DUE TO A TERRORIST ATTACK, MINE OR BOMB DISPOSAL
DUTY, DIRECT OR INDIRECT FIRE, RESCUE DUTY, COLLISION OF AN
AIRCRAFT, VEHICLE OR VESSEL, ON THE CONDITION THAT THE OCCURRENCE IS
DIRECTLY RELATED TO A HOSTILE ACTION
B. DEATH OR WOUNDS AS A DIRECT RESULT OF FRIENDLY FIRE AIMED AT A
HOSTILE FORCE OR WHAT IS OR WAS THOUGHT TO BE A HOSTILE FORCE
C. WOUNDS THAT REQUIRE NOT LESS THAN SEVEN DAYS OF TREATMENT IN
HOSPITAL, OR AN EQUIVALENT COURSE OF TREATMENT, AND THAT WERE CAUSED
BY
(1) EXPOSURE TO THE ELEMENTS AS A CONSEQUENCE OF AN AIRCRAFT,
VEHICLE OR VESSEL BEING DESTROYED OR DISABLED BY A HOSTILE ACTION,
(2) HARSH TREATMENT OR NEGLECT WHILE A CAPTIVE OF A HOSTILE FORCE,
OR
(3) USE OF NUCLEAR, BIOLOGICAL OR CHEMICAL AGENTS BY A HOSTILE FORCE
D. DEATH CAUSED BY
(1) EXPOSURE TO THE ELEMENTS AS A CONSEQUENCE OF AN AIRCRAFT,
VEHICLE OR VESSEL BEING DESTROYED OR DISABLED BY A HOSTILE ACTION
(2) HARSH TREATMENT OR NEGLECT WHILE A CAPTIVE OF A HOSTILE FORCE,
OR
PAGE 3 RCCLHAV6006 UNCLAS CANFORGEN 163/08
(3) USE OF NUCLEAR, BIOLOGICAL OR CHEMICAL AGENTS BY A HOSTILE
FORCE, OR
E. MENTAL DISORDERS THAT ARE DIAGNOSED ACCORDING TO THE CRITERIA SET
OUT IN THE QUOTE DIAGNOSTIC AND STATISTICAL MANUAL OF MENTAL
DISORDERS UNQUOTE, PUBLISHED BY THE AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC
ASSOCIATION, AND BASED ON A REVIEW BY A QUALIFIED MENTAL HEALTH CARE
PRACTITIONER, ARE DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTABLE TO A HOSTILE OR PERCEIVED
HOSTILE ACTION
4. INELIGIBLE CASES INCLUDE:
A. DEATH OR WOUNDS DUE TO EXPOSURE TO THE ELEMENTS, OR CAUSED BY
ACTS OF GOD
B. DEATH OR WOUNDS CAUSED BY AN ACCIDENT ARISING FROM THEIR
EMPLOYMENT IN A THEATRE OF OPERATIONS BUT WERE NOT DIRECTLY
ATTRIBUTABLE TO A HOSTILE ACTION
C. DEATH OR WOUNDS CAUSED BY DISEASE,OR
D. DEATH OR WOUNDS THAT WERE SELF-INFLICTED OR CAUSED BY THE VICTIM
S NEGLIGENCE
5. A RECIPIENT OF THE MEDAL WHO SUBSEQUENTLY MEETS THE CRITERIA OF
THE MEDAL AGAIN IS AWARDED A BAR TO THE MEDAL
6. THE MEDAL OR BAR REPRESENT EACH OCCASION A PERSON IS WOUNDED BUT
PAGE 4 RCCLHAV6006 UNCLAS CANFORGEN 163/08
NOT THE NUMBER OF WOUNDS SUSTAINED ON ANY ONE OCCASION
7. THE SM IS A SILVER CIRCULAR MEDAL 36 MM IN DIAMETER WITH A
STRAIGHT SUSPENSION BAR ORNAMENTED WITH THE ROYAL CROWN AND BEARS ON
THE OBVERSE A CONTEMPORARY EFFIGY OF HM THE QUEEN WITH THE
INSCRIPTIONS QUOTE ELIZABETH II DEI GRATIA REGINA UNQUOTE AND QUOTE
CANADA UNQUOTE SEPARATED BY SMALL MAPLE LEAVES. THE REVERSE BEARS A
REPRESENTATION OF THE STATUE CALLED CANADA FROM THE CDN NATIONAL
VIMY MEMORIAL AND THE INSCRIPTION QUOTE SACRIFICE UNQUOTE
8. THE BAR IS SILVER WITH RAISED EDGES AND BEARS A SINGLE MAPLE LEAF
9. THE RIBBON IS WATERED, 32 MM WIDE WITH A BLACK STRIPE IN THE
MIDDLE (10 MM), ON EITHER SIDE OF WHICH ARE RED STRIPES (11 MM) ON
WHICH ARE CENTRED WHITE STRIPES (1 MM)
10. THE SM WILL BE ENGRAVED WITH THE SN, ABBREVIATED SUBSTANTIVE
RANK AT TIME OF INCIDENT, INITIALS AND SURNAME OF MIL RECIPIENTS AND
WITH THE FORENAMES AND SURNAME OF CIVILIAN RECIPIENTS. IT IS
THEREFORE IMPORTANT THAT WHEN MAKING APPLICATIONS, UNITS ENSURE THE
INFO PROVIDED IS ACCURATE AND THAT RANK REFLECTS THE SUBSTANTIVE
RANK HELD ON DATE OF QUALIFICATION FOR MEDAL AND NOT AT TIME OF
APPLICATION. THE UNIT WILL HAVE 30 DAYS AFTER RECEIPT OF THE AWARDS
TO INSPECT THEM AND REPORT ANY ERROR TO DH R. IF THE UNIT MADE THE
PAGE 5 RCCLHAV6006 UNCLAS CANFORGEN 163/08
ERROR, A FIN CODE WILL BE REQUIRED TO COVER THE COST OF REPLACEMENT
AND DELAYS ARE TO BE EXPECTED. IF THE ERROR WAS MADE BY DH R, DH R
WILL ASSUME FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE REPLACEMENT
11. THE SM FOLLOWS ORDERS AND DECORATIONS AND PRECEDES ALL CAMPAIGN
AND SERVICE MEDALS IN THE ORDER OF PRECEDENCE (IE AFTER THE RVM AND
BEFORE THE GKM). A BAR IS WORN CENTERED ON THE RIBBON. WHEN MORE
THAN ONE BAR HAS BEEN AWARDED, THEY SHALL BE EQUALLY SPACED ON THE
RIBBON. A SILVER MAPLE LEAF IS WORN ON THE UNDRESS RIBBON TO DENOTE
THE AWARD OF A BAR, A GOLD MAPLE LEAF DENOTES THE AWARD OF A SECOND
BAR, A RED MAPLE LEAF DENOTES THE AWARD OF A THIRD BAR AND A
COMBINATION OF THOSE DEVICES DENOTES ANY FURTHER BARS AWARDED
12. APPLICATION FOR THIS MEDAL SHALL NOT BE MADE ON-LINE BUT USING
THE QUOTE SACRIFICE MEDAL APPLICATION FORM UNQUOTE (DND 2479) WHICH
REQUIRES SIGNATURES OF BOTH THE CO AND AN MO TO CONFIRM ELIGIBILITY
13. THE GOVERNOR GENERAL WILL HOLD AN INAUGURAL PRESENTATION
CEREMONY AT A LATER DATE AT WHICH APPROXIMATELY 50 REPRESENTATIVE
RECIPIENTS WILL BE PRESENTED WITH THE SM. GENERAL DISTRIBUTION WILL
FOLLOW BASED ON APPLICATIONS RECEIVED FROM THE FLEET AND FIELD WITH
PRIORITY GIVEN TO POSTHUMOUS AWARDS
14. DH R WILL PROVIDE INITIAL RECIPIENTS WITH UNDRESS RIBBON BARS
PAGE 6 RCCLHAV6006 UNCLAS CANFORGEN 163/08
AND 8 INCHES OF RIBBON FOR COURT MOUNTING. RIBBON WILL BE AVAL
THROUGH THE SUPPLY SYSTEM AT A LATER DATE
15. EFFECTIVE FROM THE DATE OF RELEASE OF THISE MSG, THE WOUND
STRIPE SHALL NO LONGER BE AWARDED. RECIPIENTS OF THE SM SHALL NOT
WEAR THE WOUND STRIPE UNLESS THEY HAVE QUALIFIED FOR THE BADGE AS A
RESULT OF WOUNDS RECEIVED BEFORE 7 OCT 01. FURTHER INFO IS AVAL ON
THE DH R DIN WEBSITE HTTP://WWW.HR.OTTAWA-HULL.MIL.CA/DHR-DDHR/
16 SIGNED BY MGEN W SEMIANIW, CMP
END OF ENGLISH TEXT / LA TEXTE FRANCAIS SUIT
OBJ : MEDAILLE DU SACRIFICE
REFS : A. PC 2008-415, 29 AOUT 2008
B. CANFORGEN 106/00 ADMHRMIL 064 081930Z SEP 00
1. SON EXCELLENCE LA GOUVERNEURE GENERALE ET COMMANDANTE EN CHEF DU
CANADA A ANNONCE QUE SA MAJESTE LA REINE A APPROUVE LA CREATION DE
LA MEDAILLE DU SACRIFICE (MS) A LA REF A
2. LA MS SERA ATTRIBUEE AUX MILITAIRES DES FORCES CANADIENNES, AUX
MILITAIRES D UNE FORCE ALLIEE QUI PARTICIPENT A UN PROGRAMME D
ECHANGE AVEC LES FC ET AUX EMPLOYES CIVILS QUI TRAVAILLENT SOUS LA
RESPONSABILITE DES FC QUI, LE 7 OCT 01 OU APRES, SONT MORTS OU ONT
ETE BLESSES, DANS DES CIRCONSTANCES HONORABLES PAR SUITE D UN ACTE
UNCLAS CANFORGEN 163/08 CMP 072/08
SIC WAK
FINAL SECTION OF 2
HOSTILE REEL OU APPARENT, A CONDITION QUE LES BLESSURES AIENT ETE
SUFFISAMMENT GRAVES POUR AVOIR NECESSITE DES TRAITEMENTS D UN
MEDECIN (MM) ET QU ILS ONT ETE CONSIGNES EN BONNE ET DUE FORME
3. VOICI LES CAS ADMISSIBLES :
A. MORT OU BLESSURES RESULTANT D ATTAQUES TERRORISTES, DES FONCTIONS
DE DEMINAGE OU DE NEUTRALISATION DE BOMBES, DE TIRS DIRECTS OU
INDIRECTS, DES FONCTIONS DE SAUVETAGE, D UNE COLLISION D UN AVION, D
UN VEHICULE OU D UN NAVIRE, A CONDITION QUE L INCIDENT SOIT
DIRECTEMENT LIE A UN ACTE HOSTILE
B. MORT OU BLESSURES RESULTANT DE TIRS AMIS DIRECTS VISANT UNE FORCE
HOSTILE OU CE QUE L ON CROIT ETRE UNE FORCE HOSTILE
C. BLESSURES NECESSITANT AU MOINS SEPT JOURS D HOSPITALISATION (OU L
EQUIVALENT) AUX FINS DE TRAITEMENT ET RESULTANT SOIT
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1) D UNE EXPOSITION AUX ELEMENTS APRES LA DESTRUCTION OU LA MISE
HORS D ETAT DE SERVICE D UN AERONEF, D UN VEHICULE OU D UN NAVIRE
PAR SUITE D UN ACTE HOSTILE,
2) DE MAUVAIS TRAITEMENTS OU D UN MANQUE DE SOINS EN TANT QUE
PRISONNIER D UNE FORCE HOSTILE,
3) DE L UTILISATION D ARMES NUCLEAIRES, BIOLOGIQUES OU CHIMIQUES PAR
UNE FORCE HOSTILE
D. MORT CAUSEE PAR
1) UNE EXPOSITION AUX ELEMENTS APRES LA DESTRUCTION OU LA MISE HORS
D ETAT DE SERVICE D UN AERONEF, D UN VEHICULE OU D UN NAVIRE PAR
SUITE D UN ACTE HOSTILE,
2) UN MAUVAIS TRAITEMENT OU UN MANQUE DE SOINS EN TANT QUE
PRISONNIER D UNE FORCE HOSTILE,
3) L UTILISATION D ARMES NUCLEAIRES, BIOLOGIQUES OU CHIMIQUES PAR
UNE FORCE HOSTILE,
E. LES TROUBLES MENTAUX QUI SONT DIAGNOSTIQUES SELON LES CRITERES
FIXES DANS LE CIT DIAGNOSTIC AND STATISTICAL MANUAL OF MENTAL
DISORDERS FINCIT (MANUEL DIAGNOSTIQUE ET STATISTIQUE DES TROUBLES
MENTAUX), PUBLIE PAR L AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION, ET QUI
SONT, BASES SUR UNE ETUDE D UN PRATICIEN QUALIFIE EN SANTE MENTALE,
PAGE 3 RCCLHAV6007 UNCLAS CANFORGEN 163/08
DIRECTEMENT LIES A DES ACTES HOSTILES REELS OU APPARENTS.
4. VOICI LES CAS NON ADMISSIBLES :
A. MORT OU BLESSURES EN RAISON DE L EXPOSITION AUX ELEMENTS OU
CAUSES PAR UNE CATASTROPHE NATURELLE
B. MORT OU BLESSURES CAUSES PAR UN ACCIDENT QUI SURVIENT AU COURS DE
L AFFECTATION DANS LE THEATRE MAIS QUI N EST PAS LIE DIRECTEMENT A
DES ACTES HOSTILES C. MORT OU BLESSURES RESULTANT D UNE MALADIE,
D. MORT OU BLESSURES RESULTANT DE LA MUTILATION VOLONTAIRE OU DE LA
NEGLIGENCE DE LA PART DE LA VICTIME
5. UN RECIPIENDAIRE DE LA MEDAILLE QUI REPOND AUX CRITERES D
ADMISSIBILITE RELATIF A LA MEDAILLE UNE AUTRE FOIS SE VOIT DECERNER
UNE BARRETTE
6. LA MEDAILLE OU LA BARRETTE REPRESENTE UN INCIDENT AU COURS DUQUEL
LA PERSONNE EST BLESSEE ET NON LE NOMBRE DE BLESSURES SUBIES LORS D
UN INCIDENT DONNE
7. LA MS EST UNE MEDAILLE EN ARGENT DE FORME RONDE DE 36 MM DE
DIAMETRE MUNIE D UNE ATTACHE DROITE ORNEE DE LA COURONNE ROYALE. L
AVERS DE LA MEDAILLE PORTE UNE EFFIGIE CONTEMPORAINE DE SA MAJESTE
LA REINE DU CANADA ENTOUREE DES INSCRIPTIONS CIT ELIZABETH II DEI
GRATIA REGINA FINCIT ET CIT CANADA FINCIT SEPAREES PAR DE PETITES
PAGE 4 RCCLHAV6007 UNCLAS CANFORGEN 163/08
FEUILLES D ERABLE. LE REVERS DE LA MEDAILLE PORTE LA REPRESENTATION
DE LA STATUE APPELEE CANADA DU MONUMENT COMMEMORATIF DU CANADA A
VIMY ET L INSCRIPTION CIT SACRIFICE FINCIT
8. LA BARRETTE EST FAITE D ARGENT COMPRENANT UNE BORDURE SURELEVEE
SURMONTEE D UNE SEULE FEUILLE D ERABLE
9. LE RUBAN MOIRE DE 32 MM DE LARGEUR EST ORNE D UNE BANDE CENTRALE
NOIRE (10 MM), ENTRE DEUX BANDES ROUGES (11 MM) QUI PORTENT CHACUNE
UNE BANDE CENTRALE BLANCHE (1 MM)
10. LA MS SERA GRAVEE DU NUMERO MATRICULE, DU GRADE EFFECTIF ABREGE
QU AVAIT LE MILITAIRE AU MOMENT DE L INCIDENT, AINSI DE SES
INITIALES ET DE SON NOM OU DES PRENOMS ET DU NOM DE TOUT
RECIPIENDAIRE CIVIL. IL EST DONC IMPORTANT QUE, LORSQU ELLE FONT UNE
DEMANDE, LES UNITES S ASSURENT QUE L INFO FOURNIE EST EXACTE ET QUE
LE GRADE REFLETE LE GRADE EFFECTIF TENU LE JOUR DE LA QUALIFICATION
POUR LA MEDAILLE ET NON AU MOMENT DE LA DEMANDE. L UNITE AURA 30
JOURS APRES AVOIR RECU LA DISTINCTION HONORIFIQUE POUR L EXAMINER ET
FAIRE RAPPORT DE TOUTE ERREUR AU DDHR. SI L UNITE A FAIT L ERREUR,
UN CODE FINANCIER SERA REQUIS POUR COUVRIR LES COUTS DE
REMPLACEMENT, ET DES RETARDS SONT A PREVOIR. SI LE DDHR A FAIT L
ERREUR, CE DERNIER ASSUMERA LES COUTS ASSOCIES AU REMPLACEMENT
PAGE 5 RCCLHAV6007 UNCLAS CANFORGEN 163/08
11. LA MS SUIT LES ORDRES ET DECORATIONS ET PRECEDE TOUTES LES
MEDAILLES DE CAMPAGNE ET DE SERVICE DANS L ORDRE DE PRESEANCE
(C.-A-D., APRES LA MEDAILLE ROYALE DE VICTORIA ET AVANT LA MEDAILLE
DU GOLFE ET DU KOWEIT). UNE BARRETTE EST CENTREE SUR LE RUBAN. QUAND
PLUS D UNE BARRETTE A ETE DECERNEE, ELLES SONT EQUIDISTANTES SUR LE
RUBAN. UNE FEUILLE D ERABLE ARGENTEE SUR LE RUBAN INDIQUE L
ATTRIBUTION D UNE BARRETTE, UNE FEUILLE D ERABLE DOREE INDIQUE L
ATTRIBUTION D UNE DEUXIEME BARRETTE, UNE FEUILLE D ERABLE ROUGE
INDIQUE L ATTRIBUTION D UNE TROISIEME BARRETTE ET LA COMBINAISON DE
CES INSIGNES INDIQUENT L ATTRIBUTION D UN NOMBRE SUPPLEMENTAIRE DE
BARRETTES
12.ON NE PEUT FAIRE DE DEMANDE EN LIGNE POUR CETTE MEDAILLE. IL FAUT
UTILISER CIT LE FORMULAIRE DE DEMANDE DE MEDAILLE DU SACRIFICE
FINCIT (DND 2479) QUI REQUIERT LA SIGNATURE DU CMDT ET DU MM POUR
CONFIRMER L ADMISSIBILITE
13. LES PREMIERES MS SERONT PRESENTEES PAR LA GOUVERNEURE GENERALE A
ENVIRON 50 RECIPIENDAIRES REPRESENTATIFS LORS D UNE CEREMONIE A UNE
DATE ULTERIEURE. LA DISTRIBUTION GENERALE SE FERA SELON LES DEMANDES
RECUES DE LA FLOTTE ET DU TERRAIN. LA PRIORITE SERA DONNEE AUX
MEDAILLES ATTRIBUEES A TITRE POSTHUME
PAGE 6 RCCLHAV6007 UNCLAS CANFORGEN 163/08
14. LE DDHR FOURNIRA AUX PREMIERS RECIPIENDAIRES DES BARRETTES DE
RUBAN ET 8 POUCES DE RUBAN POUR LE MONTAGE DE COUR. LE RUBAN SERA
DISPONIBLE PAR LE BIAIS DU SYSTEME D APPROVISIONNEMENT A UNE DATE
ULTERIEURE
15. A COMPTER DE LA DATE DE CE MESSAGE, LE GALON DE BLESSE NE SERA
PLUS DECERNE. LES RECIPIENDAIRES DE LA MS NE DEVRONT PAS PORTER LE
GALON DE BLESSE, A MOINS QU ILS NE SE SOIENT QUALIFIES POUR L
INSIGNE EN RAISON DE BLESSURES SUBIES AVANT LE 7 OCT 01. DE PLUS
AMPLES RENSEIGNEMENTS SONT DISPONIBLES SUR LE SITE WEB INTERNE DU
DDHR HTTP://WWW.HR.OTTAWA-HULL.MIL.CA/DHR-DDHR/
16. SIGNE PAR LE MGEN W. SEMIANIW, CPM
BT
#6006
 
So the question is can I keep my wound stripe and tell them to keep this ridiculous (IMO) medal?
 
Neat,

Now I know that unless I was shot in an area that is not hidden by the government, I get to wear a cute felt stripe.  One that is officially ordered to not be recognized, as the wound stripe is only a a dress distinction.


pfft.

dileas

tess



 
BulletMagnet said:
So the question is can I keep my wound stripe and tell them to keep this ridiculous (IMO) medal?

Apparently not.

See para 15. Only those awarded wound stripes prior to 07 Oct 2001, are eligible to still wear them. I'm taking this to mean, our pers who have received such since that date will be receiving the Sacrifice medal ... and that it is all that is authorized for wear by those pers upon it's presentation to them.

15. EFFECTIVE FROM THE DATE OF RELEASE OF THISE MSG, THE WOUND
STRIPE SHALL NO LONGER BE AWARDED. RECIPIENTS OF THE SM SHALL NOT
WEAR THE WOUND STRIPE UNLESS THEY HAVE QUALIFIED FOR THE BADGE AS A
RESULT OF WOUNDS RECEIVED BEFORE 7 OCT 01. FURTHER INFO IS AVAL ON
THE DH R DIN WEBSITE HTTP://WWW.HR.OTTAWA-HULL.MIL.CA/DHR-DDHR/
 
BulletMagnet said:
So the question is can I keep my wound stripe and tell them to keep this ridiculous (IMO) medal?

EFFECTIVE FROM THE DATE OF RELEASE OF THISE MSG, THE WOUND
STRIPE SHALL NO LONGER BE AWARDED. RECIPIENTS OF THE SM SHALL NOT
WEAR THE WOUND STRIPE UNLESS THEY HAVE QUALIFIED FOR THE BADGE AS A
RESULT OF WOUNDS RECEIVED BEFORE 7 OCT 01.

So.......for you no.  Tess......yes.
 
Like HELL!!!!

You can to the best of my knwledge refuse a decoration... I would rather wear nothing then that cheap piece of tin!
 
George Wallace said:
EFFECTIVE FROM THE DATE OF RELEASE OF THISE MSG, THE WOUND
STRIPE SHALL NO LONGER BE AWARDED.

If I read this right though, until such a date that BM should receive the Medal, he can keep wearing the stripe.
 
Beadwindow 7 said:
If I read this right though, until such a date that BM should receive the Medal, he can keep wearing the stripe.

Correct as per my last post. That's how I take it too.

He can wear his wound stripe until the Sacrifice Medal is presented to him.
 
Time to start ducking Parades LMAO  ;D

Though I also wonder how many times they can charge me for being out of dress should I refuse to wear it, if presented with it.
 
Beadwindow 7 said:
If I read this right though, until such a date that BM should receive the Medal, he can keep wearing the stripe.

This is the line that pertains to BM:  UNLESS THEY HAVE QUALIFIED FOR THE BADGE AS A
RESULT OF WOUNDS RECEIVED BEFORE 7 OCT 01.


BM doesn't qualify, but as Vern points out.......until he is presented the medal, he still will have the Wound Stripe.
 
BulletMagnet said:
Time to start ducking Parades LMAO  ;D

Though I also wonder how many times they can charge me for being out of dress should I refuse to wear it, if presented with it.

Methinks ( >:D <--- for Kat) somehow that your ass will not be able to duck out of this one; and we all know how good you are at ducking anyway. Perhaps if you wear your Oakleys on a daily basis ... they will all fail to recognize you.  ;)
 
GW I can wear my stripe until they present me with the medal......If I never get presented with the medal well.....  ;)
 
ArmyVern said:
Methinks ( >:D <--- for Kat) somehow that your *** will not be able to duck out of this one; and we all know how good you are at ducking anyway. Perhaps if you wear your Oakleys on a daily basis ... they will all fail to recognize you.  ;)

Bet you he'd wear the medal if it was engraved with an Oakley O  ;D
 
BulletMagnet said:
GW I can wear my stripe until they present me with the medal......If I never get presented with the medal well.....  ;)

So you plan on being "out" everytime a 'Presentation' may be taking place........Remember: You can run, but you can't hide.......forever.    ;D
 
BulletMagnet said:
Like HELL!!!!

You can to the best of my knwledge refuse a decoration... I would rather wear nothing then that cheap piece of tin!

Hear hear.

I have been recognized, for receiveing 7 (seven) bullets that ripped apart my body.

I serverd and almost died, and all I get is freaking felt gold stripe.  I can be humble like the next Canadian who served, but for the love of Pete, can they not recognize us cold warriors?

Would it truly bankrupt the Canadian Government to back date the medal?

Disgusting.....end my rant.   It has nothing to do with me being selfish, more so with the Government moving on from past mistakes.  And we are the flotsam and jetsam of their mission.

I might as well spark up the iltis in the war museum and park it on my front lawn!!!

dileas

tess
 
GW,

Clearly I am not good at hiding  ;D

And yes you are right with O on it I would probably wear it!
 
Fellow soldiers, serving and like me, out to pasture,

One thought: the wound stripe was abolished some time before I joined the army in 1957. I know this because we had a couple of guys in my battery circa 1958 who were wounded in Korea and did not wear the badge. (One was known as shrapnel ass because he was hit by a mortar splinter while bending over repairing a break in a line.) The badge was not reinstated until the 1990's and many of you wear it with honour.

However, unlike the wound stripe, which is a badge, the medal is something that once gazetted can not be taken away with the stroke of a pen. The intent is not to lessen the signficance of the wound stripe, it is to more formally acknowledge your condition.

I know this is unlikely to change many minds, and I guess I am wasting a post, but I hope some of you will accept the good intenetions behind the institution of the award.
 
No GW I thought of them I just don't personaly agree with them. Remember I keep sayin IMO, I wont take away from another soldier that wants this I just don't
 
Old Sweat said:
Fellow soldiers, serving and like me, out to pasture,

One thought: the wound stripe was abolished some time before I joined the army in 1957. I know this because we had a couple of guys in my battery circa 1958 who were wounded in Korea and did not wear the badge. (One was known as shrapnel *** because he was hit by a mortar splinter while bending over repairing a break in a line.) The badge was not reinstated until the 1990's and many of you wear it with honour.

However, unlike the wound stripe, which is a badge, the medal is something that once gazetted cannot be taken away with the stroke of a pen. The intent is not to lessen the significance of the wound stripe, it is to more formally acknowledge your condition.

I know this is unlikely to change many minds, and I guess I am wasting a post, but I hope some of you will accept the good intentions behind the institution of the award.

the 48th regulator said:
Is there a way to view a listing of those of us that have been awarded the wound stripe?

I can't seem to find it with googlefu.

dileas

tess

Here is my concern

Does Canada record those of us that made the sacrifice and lived.  Are the wounded, who lived, recorded o tell the story of us Canadians that have shed blood in the service of the nation?

As I said, are those of us that have receive a dainty felt patch recognized like the modern soldier, as people who have given for the cause, or is this medal another token to appease the left to justify our mission?

Are we soldiers once again being forsaken for politics?


dileas

tess
 
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