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Conditional Offer of Enrollment from CFRC Vancouver.
MARS Officer. RMC Kingston.
Good luck to rest of you out there.
MARS Officer. RMC Kingston.
Good luck to rest of you out there.
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Congratulations to everyone receiving their calls! Good luck for the future! 
Conz said:
Okay, thanks for the info! Either way, if I don't make it this year I'll just start my degree and reapply from Ottawa. My file will only be more competitive that way, especially since I'm doing my first aid course within the next 2 weeks.
The only people who can provide good info on this are people with firsthand knowledge. You'll likely find 0 in this thread, and the best place to ask is your recruiting center.Chelomo said:
If you trust what you hear (either here on the forum, through friends, or sometimes even from recruiters), you'll be very confused because you'll have about 347 different explanations for how selections work.
Also, for what it's worth, applying/attending Civ U doesn't mean that you're not being considered for RMC. We have people who wanted Civ U but were pulled out of their universities that they were ALREADY ATTENDING to attend RMC as first years; others applied only for Civ U and got offers for only RMC.
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Not called yet from CRFC Quebec City. Last year I received my offer on April 23 couple of day after some guys. First round selection can take a couple of day guy so if you don't get an offer today do not panic.
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Yeah I know, but I was found unsuitable for RMC, so unless there's a divine intervention I doubt I'll get an offer from there. And I am aware that this is an unofficial forum, but I do know some people who went through the process or are working in recruiting stalk those threads and sometime provide a few nuggets of knowledge. I am also aware that it doesn't replace hard knowledge from my CFRC, but thanks for the clarification
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Chelomo said:Yeah I know, but I was found unsuitable for RMC, so unless there's a divine intervention I doubt I'll get an offer from there. And I am aware that this is an unofficial forum, but I do know some people who went through the process or are working in recruiting stalk those threads and sometime provide a few nuggets of knowledge. I am also aware that it doesn't replace hard knowledge from my CFRC, but thanks for the clarification
I am not entirely certain but I would think that RMC get's first dibs in the applicant pool.
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I just got my offer of admission to go to RMC-St. Jean
Occupation is MARS
I'm coming out of CFRC Toronto
Occupation is MARS
I'm coming out of CFRC Toronto
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Just for a general shout-out to people.
(Know that this is my personal exprience and opinion, and should not be taken as official fact)
If you do not get picked up for first selection (Generally around Apr. 15-30), you should pull out that back up plan and start thinking different option than ROTP.
Yes, there is that chance of getting picked up in second, third or top-ups, but chances are extremely slim. Don't play a lottery in this important phase of your life.
The offers just started to roll out, so don't automatically expect you failed or get overly anxious about it, but at the same time, be prepared just in case you failed. Since alot of people applying for ROTP are generally passionate about it, it is often hard to swallow when you don't get picked up.
I know how it feels. I didn't get picked up for 2 years.
If you don't get picked up, best I can say is know yourself and keep walking on with life. Learn more about yourself, learn more about the system, learn more about the Canadian Forces, learn more about the job and other jobs you didn't apply for. Capitalize on that knowledge and improve, so you may have better chance next time should you re-apply. Keep walking on with life. Go to that civilian university that you got accepted into and apply for ROTP again. Study hard, live a fulfilling school year and regret nothing.
Even if you re-apply after not getting picked up once, it guarentes you nothing. Still, it doesn't mean you should just give up. Essentially, you will be stuck in limbo of uncertainty, but don't let that limbo effect you or your life too much. I let that limbo get to me after not getting picked up first time and it wasn't exactly positive moments of my life.
Remember, at the end of the day, CF owes you nothing and it's something you have to compete for with thousands of people wanting the same couple hundred spots that opens yearly. You're not only competing with fellow high-school graduates, but people who are already in university, people who were working but now wants to get into ROTP and such. You are not guarented the job until you sign that dotted line.
Now some of you may be saying this is way too early, since offer are just starting to roll out or that I am over-steppping my boundary and is being either douchey or arrogant. Perhaps you are right. But whether it is right or not, this kind of advice was one thing I sorely wished for when I was in the process of selection for my first try and after I was not picked up. I'm just trying to give people the benefeit of hindsight.
Because, frankly, you most likely won't get this kind of advice from the CFRC personnel or the family.
Good luck to everyone out there.
(Also, if you don't get picked up this year, don't get too discouraged. I got in on my third time applying, and if it's possible for me, it's possible for you.)
As per discussion about St. Jean and Kingston... I'm not sure. I'm going straight to Kingston for my first year, however I was at Civ U. for 2 years. So maybe that played something into it. But my friend, who is also MARS, got sent to St. Jean for his first year. One can only guess.
(Know that this is my personal exprience and opinion, and should not be taken as official fact)
If you do not get picked up for first selection (Generally around Apr. 15-30), you should pull out that back up plan and start thinking different option than ROTP.
Yes, there is that chance of getting picked up in second, third or top-ups, but chances are extremely slim. Don't play a lottery in this important phase of your life.
The offers just started to roll out, so don't automatically expect you failed or get overly anxious about it, but at the same time, be prepared just in case you failed. Since alot of people applying for ROTP are generally passionate about it, it is often hard to swallow when you don't get picked up.
I know how it feels. I didn't get picked up for 2 years.
If you don't get picked up, best I can say is know yourself and keep walking on with life. Learn more about yourself, learn more about the system, learn more about the Canadian Forces, learn more about the job and other jobs you didn't apply for. Capitalize on that knowledge and improve, so you may have better chance next time should you re-apply. Keep walking on with life. Go to that civilian university that you got accepted into and apply for ROTP again. Study hard, live a fulfilling school year and regret nothing.
Even if you re-apply after not getting picked up once, it guarentes you nothing. Still, it doesn't mean you should just give up. Essentially, you will be stuck in limbo of uncertainty, but don't let that limbo effect you or your life too much. I let that limbo get to me after not getting picked up first time and it wasn't exactly positive moments of my life.
Remember, at the end of the day, CF owes you nothing and it's something you have to compete for with thousands of people wanting the same couple hundred spots that opens yearly. You're not only competing with fellow high-school graduates, but people who are already in university, people who were working but now wants to get into ROTP and such. You are not guarented the job until you sign that dotted line.
Now some of you may be saying this is way too early, since offer are just starting to roll out or that I am over-steppping my boundary and is being either douchey or arrogant. Perhaps you are right. But whether it is right or not, this kind of advice was one thing I sorely wished for when I was in the process of selection for my first try and after I was not picked up. I'm just trying to give people the benefeit of hindsight.
Because, frankly, you most likely won't get this kind of advice from the CFRC personnel or the family.
Good luck to everyone out there.
(Also, if you don't get picked up this year, don't get too discouraged. I got in on my third time applying, and if it's possible for me, it's possible for you.)
As per discussion about St. Jean and Kingston... I'm not sure. I'm going straight to Kingston for my first year, however I was at Civ U. for 2 years. So maybe that played something into it. But my friend, who is also MARS, got sent to St. Jean for his first year. One can only guess.
Good advice Rockgollem, always have a plan B, and also strive to make your application more competitive.
As for the St-Jean thing, how I understand it (Based on the RMC website and forces.ca) is thus:
As Quebec students only have up to Grade 11 in high school, St-Jean is meant to take the place of CEGEP by giving them the necessary preparatory year for university (In effect becoming Grade 12). It's important to note that here we have 11 years of elementary and secondary education, and then go to CEGEP for 2 years before going to university, which is usually 3 years for an undergraduate degree (But not always).
When a Quebec student applies for ROTP without post secondary education, he's a junior applicant and is thus shipped off to St-Jean for a year. After that year he may elect (Or the forces may elect to allow him) to continue his studies into 2nd year at St-Jean and obtain his DEC (Diplôme d'études collégiales). Some equivalencies will be recognized by Kingston, though I am unaware if they will credit a full year.
For students outside of Quebec, they mention that if you do not have certain prerequisites for your program at RMC Kingston, they may enrol you as a junior applicant in St-Jean and then credit you some equivalencies, while allowing you to complete the necessary prereqs, though as far as I know, if you complete everything you need in grade 11 and 12, you should be good to go directly to RMC Kingston.
Hope that helped a bit to understand our Byzantine school system
As for the St-Jean thing, how I understand it (Based on the RMC website and forces.ca) is thus:
As Quebec students only have up to Grade 11 in high school, St-Jean is meant to take the place of CEGEP by giving them the necessary preparatory year for university (In effect becoming Grade 12). It's important to note that here we have 11 years of elementary and secondary education, and then go to CEGEP for 2 years before going to university, which is usually 3 years for an undergraduate degree (But not always).
When a Quebec student applies for ROTP without post secondary education, he's a junior applicant and is thus shipped off to St-Jean for a year. After that year he may elect (Or the forces may elect to allow him) to continue his studies into 2nd year at St-Jean and obtain his DEC (Diplôme d'études collégiales). Some equivalencies will be recognized by Kingston, though I am unaware if they will credit a full year.
For students outside of Quebec, they mention that if you do not have certain prerequisites for your program at RMC Kingston, they may enrol you as a junior applicant in St-Jean and then credit you some equivalencies, while allowing you to complete the necessary prereqs, though as far as I know, if you complete everything you need in grade 11 and 12, you should be good to go directly to RMC Kingston.
Hope that helped a bit to understand our Byzantine school system
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They send some students to CMR for their first year purely because of numbers.
The CMR first years will be joining us in May for a "welcome weekend" kind of thing where they meet their counterparts here in their squadrons from next year.
There appeared to be no difference between CMR cadets and RMC cadets so I wouldn't worry about it!
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The CMR first years will be joining us in May for a "welcome weekend" kind of thing where they meet their counterparts here in their squadrons from next year.
There appeared to be no difference between CMR cadets and RMC cadets so I wouldn't worry about it!
;D
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Noctis said:
No update here from CFRC Quebec. Should be tomorrow or Friday... Last year some guys got it on April 18 and I got mine on the 23 so I expect that it seems to be the same...
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