ballz
Army.ca Veteran
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I think this discussion would be better off leaving the civilian side of it out altogether... As CF members discussing CF "issues," I really don't see how comparing ourselves to civilian counterparts that are "volunteering (for pay...)" offers any solution to what we are talking about.
In other words, how someone working at Tim Horton's in KAF is being compensated is IMO irrelevant from whether an Infantry O in a battlegroup should be getting paid more than a CF cook in KAF, or an Infantry O that stays in KAF his whole tour (because that is what's required of him). Or whether a CF cook in a FOB should be getting more hazard pay than said Infantry O in KAF, or fellow cook in KAF.
To me his civilian comparison is irrelevant bantering. If you think you'd be better off working at Tim Horton's in KAF, then release and "volunteer," no one forced you to swear an oath and no one is forcing you to stay in the CF. There are a ton of applicants that are lined up at recruiting centres waiting for April 1st to roll around (every year, just for a chance that a spot *might* open) that would be happy to take your spot, regardless of not being treated "equal" to a civilian counterpart.
EDIT to add: My best friend is graduating from chemical engineering in less than 2 weeks. He's considering Airfield Engineer O. He grew up with me in Fort Mac and he knows he can make better money in an easier job, but he's still considering it. If he signs up and starts complaining about engineers in Fort Mac making 250k a year while he's out risking his balls in some foreign country for Captain's pay, I'm giving him a slap. ;D
In other words, how someone working at Tim Horton's in KAF is being compensated is IMO irrelevant from whether an Infantry O in a battlegroup should be getting paid more than a CF cook in KAF, or an Infantry O that stays in KAF his whole tour (because that is what's required of him). Or whether a CF cook in a FOB should be getting more hazard pay than said Infantry O in KAF, or fellow cook in KAF.
To me his civilian comparison is irrelevant bantering. If you think you'd be better off working at Tim Horton's in KAF, then release and "volunteer," no one forced you to swear an oath and no one is forcing you to stay in the CF. There are a ton of applicants that are lined up at recruiting centres waiting for April 1st to roll around (every year, just for a chance that a spot *might* open) that would be happy to take your spot, regardless of not being treated "equal" to a civilian counterpart.
EDIT to add: My best friend is graduating from chemical engineering in less than 2 weeks. He's considering Airfield Engineer O. He grew up with me in Fort Mac and he knows he can make better money in an easier job, but he's still considering it. If he signs up and starts complaining about engineers in Fort Mac making 250k a year while he's out risking his balls in some foreign country for Captain's pay, I'm giving him a slap. ;D