Reconstitution

[vonGarvin]

I would offer that fitness is a command responsibility.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I would offer that fitness is a command responsibility.

It's a leadership responsibility.

I will tell you when my sailors saw me on the treadmill during the last deployment there was a sudden spark in my people going to the gym.

We, as leaders, need to understand they are watching us and will mirror our good and bad behaviours. Make good choices.

 

[Quirky]

I would offer that fitness is a command responsibility.

Fitness should be the cornerstone of any Armed Forces. Can't have fat obese troops.

You can only educate people so much on diet and fitness, it ultimately has to come down to personal responsibility. Just like cleaning your boots and keeping your uniform and kit in good working order.

 

[AKa]

A lot of folks will not make any significant effort to achieve more than the minimum until it has career implications, positive or negative.

 

[dapaterson]

We, as leaders, need to understand they are watching us and will mirror our good and bad behaviours. Make good choices.

Show up on time

Be in the correct uniform

Reinforce positive behaviors

Admit your own errors

 

[Halifax Tar]

Show up on time

Be in the correct uniform

Reinforce positive behaviors

Admit your own errors

Its really not hard, eh ?

 

[dapaterson]

Its really not hard, eh ?

And yet...

 

[Halifax Tar]

And yet...

Its rather shocking.

 

[stoker dave]

It's a leadership responsibility.

Agree. While decades old, my experience was:

1. On board ship, people who regularly exercised were routinely mocked for exercising. Chiefs, POs and senior officers never exercised. It was usually jr officers and jr ranks that made the effort. I hope that has changed.
2. I saw senior officers, when told they had to do their annual fitness test, just say they were too busy. That's not leadership.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Agree. While decades old, my experience was:

1. On board ship, people who regularly exercised were routinely mocked for exercising. Chiefs, POs and senior officers never exercised. It was usually jr officers and jr ranks that made the effort. I hope that has changed.
2. I saw senior officers, when told they had to do their annual fitness test, just say they were too busy. That's not leadership.

It's a very different culture now. PT, while still not as wildly undertaken as I would like, is supported.

 

[SupersonicMax]

I would offer that fitness is a command responsibility.

You are right. 100% (excluding those on MELs) of my unit passed their FORCE test and met the required standard yet there is no mandated PT. Is my unit failing? What is "fit enough" for you?

 

[Halifax Tar]

You are right. 100% (excluding those on MELs) of my unit passed their FORCE test and met the required standard yet there is no mandated PT. Is my unit failing? What is "fit enough" for you?

This is the crux. If they are meeting the standard, the fact that their tunic is made from a Princess Auto tarp doesn't matter.

 

[PrairieFella]

You are right. 100% (excluding those on MELs) of my unit passed their FORCE test and met the required standard yet there is no mandated PT. Is my unit failing? What is "fit enough" for you?

Not wearing the maternity tunic is a good start. I'm certainly on the heavier side but the amount of relish beach balls on airbases is equally concerning and embarassing.

 

[SupersonicMax]

Not wearing the maternity tunic is a good start. I'm certainly on the heavier side but the amount of relish beach balls on airbases is equally concerning and embarassing.

Why? If they achieve the standard, why is it concerning?

 

[Grimey]

Agree. While decades old, my experience was:

1. On board ship, people who regularly exercised were routinely mocked for exercising. Chiefs, POs and senior officers never exercised. It was usually jr officers and jr ranks that made the effort. I hope that has changed.
2. I saw senior officers, when told they had to do their annual fitness test, just say they were too busy. That's not leadership.

Not only that, the C&POs in 3 mess were mostly hammered by morning stand-easy. The MS and senior killicks ran the show. This was 35 years ago on my first ship. That all changed for the better around 5 years later. Strangely enough, that aligned with FRP…

 

[daftandbarmy]

Why? If they achieve the standard, why is it concerning?

Because it looks awful and no one will have any respect for your leadership, or your unit/national military, as a result...

Fat soldiers increasing headache for US military

Fat soldiers increasing headache for US military

Obesity is becoming an increasing problem for American soldiers, according to CNBC. The reasons are two-fold - fast food chains such as Taco Bell and Burger King, which have been opening their stores in the military bases, appear to be influencing soldiers’ eating habits significantly.

www.koreatimes.co.kr

 

[Quirky]

Shocking not shocking.

Internal DND documents show only 5% of planned military housing to be built this year​

Significant construction of new units still 2 years away​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/defence-department-new-military-housing-1.7446627

 

[stoker dave]

Not only that, the C&POs in 3 mess were mostly hammered by morning stand-easy.

Not to derail this thread, but being an A/SLt and being confronted by an obviously drunk and impaired Chief or PO was a situation no one was prepared for.....

 

[SupersonicMax]

Because it looks awful and no one will have any respect for your leadership, or your unit/national military, as a result...

Fat soldiers increasing headache for US military


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Fat soldiers increasing headache for US military

Obesity is becoming an increasing problem for American soldiers, according to CNBC. The reasons are two-fold - fast food chains such as Taco Bell and Burger King, which have been opening their stores in the military bases, appear to be influencing soldiers’ eating habits significantly.

www.koreatimes.co.kr

I have never seen a situation when this was an issue. I value competency in trades vs fitness, as long as people meet the minimum standards. Failing at my mission has far more repercussions in my leadership, or unit/national military.

 

[QV]

Why? If they achieve the standard, why is it concerning?

Have the fitness standards been continually massaged over the years to account for DEI initiatives?