RCN Carrier models

[NavyShooter]

I was speaking to a well known Sea King pilot who flew off the Bonnie. I'm still not sure what was done in Ops and what was done in the Carrier ATC Center...

However, he did confirm that very little of the positioning of the inner screen (ie the Sea Kings) was done by the helicopters themselves. Which is contrary to what some other pilots have indicated.

Any interest in doing the models for the afformentioned spaces? Maybe as a stand alone cutaway to go with our Bonnie?

I could be convinced....let me see what I can do....

 

[Baz]

That tracks with my understanding of the 1960s employment of a Sea King.

I could be convinced....let me see what I can do....

The curator and I spoke about it again today. We know that the first years of the Sea Kings employment cannot be described without showing what happened in those apaces on Bonnie, but we're not sure how to do it yet.

I also need to find out what the state boards looked like, and which radar repeaters, etc, were in use.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

The curator and I spoke about it again today. We know that the first years of the Sea Kings employment cannot be described without showing what happened in those apaces on Bonnie, but we're not sure how to do it yet.

I also need to find out what the state boards looked like, and which radar repeaters, etc, were in use.

Did you ask John Orr or Allan Snowie?

 

[NavyShooter]

The curator and I spoke about it again today. We know that the first years of the Sea Kings employment cannot be described without showing what happened in those apaces on Bonnie, but we're not sure how to do it yet.

I also need to find out what the state boards looked like, and which radar repeaters, etc, were in use.

One of the problems is that there are/were few photos taken of those spaces at the time due to security concerns (I think). I asked for photos of Bonnie including interior shots from Image Services, and they had a bare handful.

I think my best bet would be to sift through some of the personal photos from the Museum Collection to see what I could find.

Attached is one of the photos of the stateboards that I have - top right corner.

 

[NavyShooter]

And, to be clear, you're looking at what they do in all three of these spaces, and would want 3D models of all of them?

 

[Baz]

Did you ask John Orr or Allan Snowie?

Talked to John as recently as last week about it.

We don’t have space to do a full size version, and to be honest it probably would be too much. A VR experience might be appropriate, but not everybody wants to do that. A model would show the overall layout, but not necessarily what they were doing.

 

[Baz]

And, to be clear, you're looking at what they do in all three of these spaces, and would want 3D models of all of them?

I’m not sure exactly because I’m still working on what TTPs they used, but probably. Would it be possible to do a single cross section of the starboard side including the island, open on the port side?

I wonder what scale it would need to be to put tiny lcds in each radar repeater and the state boards? I could then have a touchscreen that shows them all and tapping any one of them would zoom in on it.

Add to that chatter on the air control freq and the internal air circuit and would it tell the story?

Still a lot of missing research to enable that though.

 

[NavyShooter]

I'm thinking it would have to be a lot bigger than what I've got going on right now....

Probably 1/32 scale? Maybe 1/35 to get people of the right size easily? That's just a scaling factor though.

Let me ponder - this is a couple weeks of work on the 3D side.

 

[Baz]

Doing a quick bit of math...

The smallest LCDs I know of are 1/2". If a radar console is 18" then that puts the smallest scale 1:36. Assuming the island is about 75', and the air direction room extends out in front of it on 2 deck, that means somewhere around 100', or 3' at 1:36.

I'm thinking something like this:

3' long at 1:36 (maybe go a little bit bigger scale). Put the funnels and radars (turning, of course), running lights, etc. Little LCDs for each radar and bigger ones for the stateboards. Red LED for battle lanterns.

We could put it next to the larger model.

Thoughts?

Editted: we came to the same scale together, separately 1:32 sounds good; still about 3' long.

 

[NavyShooter]

Something like this...?

This does NOT match the prints, but is a 20 minute 'draft' version that I put together in Tinkercad.

Make it big enough and you could make the screens active in some way.

At least it could be big enough to light up the sections and have some radio chatter in the background?

 

[Baz]

Something like this...?

This does NOT match the prints, but is a 20 minute 'draft' version that I put together in Tinkercad.

Make it big enough and you could make the screens active in some way.

At least it could be big enough to light up the sections and have some radio chatter in the background?

I think you may have missed my last post?

Isn't the Air Direction Room directly under the island?

I was thinking go up all the way with the island to show the actual radars as well, and cut away the whole inner side of it, and show the Bridge and Fly Co (is that what they called it) as well.

And yes, the scale will have to be chosen carfully so I can get little LCDs in the repeaters and stateboards.

 

[NavyShooter]

I think we both had similar concepts and I posted without refreshing content -

1/32 would be a good scale because there are aircraft of that scale readily available for sale as models, so a S2 parked on the flight deck would be a good accessory.

I will ponder this and see what I can come up with. A Cutaway Bonnie section 3+ feet long is a bit of a challenge!

 

[Baz]

I will ponder this and see what I can come up with. A Cutaway Bonnie section 3+ feet long is a bit of a challenge!

Thanks!

If it's any help let me worry about all the electronic and lighting bits. We would need to figure out where to hide the wires...

 

[GR66]

I think we both had similar concepts and I posted without refreshing content -

1/32 would be a good scale because there are aircraft of that scale readily available for sale as models, so a S2 parked on the flight deck would be a good accessory.

I will ponder this and see what I can come up with. A Cutaway Bonnie section 3+ feet long is a bit of a challenge!

We all look forward to seeing your finished product when we get back from Christmas break!

 

[NavyShooter]

I was going to start playing with the laptop at work which has a CAD program on it for...professional development reasons....then I got busy with a bunch of artillery sights that have to be checked out...so I've got days of work ahead before I get to do any downtime projects.

 

[GK .Dundas]

I was going to start playing with the laptop at work which has a CAD program on it for...professional development reasons....then I got busy with a bunch of artillery sights that have to be checked out...so I've got days of work ahead before I get to do any downtime projects.

I hate when reality interrupts my life .

 

[NavyShooter]

Here's the beginning...working at home because, y'know...life.

This shows the hangar deck with a portion of the forward elevator at the upper left, with the wall along the bottom edge being the centerline of the ship.

I decided to label the picture.

 

[NavyShooter]

Here's another view showing the hangar with approximately to scale Trackers stuck in for perspective.